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Old 07-22-2005, 03:18 AM   #1
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Armed police shoot dead suspected sucide bomber

On sky news now - shot dead at Stockwell tube....
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shit it's getting worse and worse glad they got this one though
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If he's indeed proven a suicide bomber he deserved it.
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It is a really big deal for the police to shoot anyone anywhere in London (most don't carry guns) so for someone to have been shot dead on the tube it must have been something really serious.
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How the hell do they know if hes the one? You need pretty good proof before you can justify shooting someone dead...
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Old 07-22-2005, 04:53 AM   #6
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It is a really big deal for the police to shoot anyone anywhere in London (most don't carry guns) so for someone to have been shot dead on the tube it must have been something really serious.
yeah I think you guys in the UK got about 70 deaths from firearms a year eh?
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How the hell do they know if hes the one? You need pretty good proof before you can justify shooting someone dead...
You think they want to take the risk ? I wouldnt - better 1 dead than 100s. But yes it is looking like this was one of the maggots from yesterday. Now dispatched to bowls of hell! Good work I say
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How the hell do they know if hes the one? You need pretty good proof before you can justify shooting someone dead...
The idiot breached the blockade they had put up, ran for his life's worth onto a train wearing a "bomb belt with wires coming out". (witnesses on the train)

Punk deserved getting shot, no matter if he was a bomber belt or just pulling some idiotic prank.
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Funny how these replies would be TOTALLY different if this cop was from New York. We would get something like

" Crazed American Police Kill an unarmed kid for breaking throught blockade"

Now, let me say that I don't really have a problem with his dumb ass being shot. Shouldn't have run from the cops. Also, sorry to all those in London having to deal with this crazy shit the last couple of weeks.
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The London police is not exactly known for their excessive use of violence though. They even serve the bad guys yummy tea in prison.
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Damn. Every morning you wake up now its that "Breaking News" stuff on CNN.

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The London police is not exactly known for their excessive use of violence though. They even serve the bad guys yummy tea in prison.
Yeah, but give them a couple of "scary" days and see how things change. The guy did not have a bomb. They freaked out, and over-reacted. Like I said though, no problem with me. In the "current situation" the idiot was asking for it.
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Damn. Every morning you wake up now its that "Breaking News" stuff on CNN.

Yeah..... I was laying in bed this morning concidering just not bothering to get up at all. I knew it would be bad news - then I click on CNN and see this shit.
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Funny how these replies would be TOTALLY different if this cop was from New York. We would get something like

" Crazed American Police Kill an unarmed kid for breaking throught blockade"
And now they are saying the guy they shot did not have a bomb, so that would make the comments 10x worse for all the U.S. cop bashers on the board.
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Armed police shoot dead suspected sucide bomber
Why did they shoot him if he was dead?
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shot five times! maybe its the SAS or something
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armed police?

that had 2 arms each?
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Old 07-22-2005, 06:19 AM   #18
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so for someone to have been shot dead on the tube it must have been something really serious.
yeah like panic, fear, terror.

if he was not guilty, then what?

cops shouldnt be allowed to just gun people down.

then again, here in america cops taser 9 year old handcuffed girls.
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yeah like panic, fear, terror.

if he was not guilty, then what?

cops shouldnt be allowed to just gun people down.

then again, here in america cops taser 9 year old handcuffed girls.

Fletch..in the UK they AREN'T allowed to just gun people down. Hence why they aren't all armed.
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all i see is "DEAD SUSPECT"

suspects shouldnt end up dead.

guilty parties should.... thats the point.
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Let god sort them out.. score one for the good guys .
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the SAS shoots who they want...and anyone running through blockade like that after yesterday deserves to be shot
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all i see is "DEAD SUSPECT"

suspects shouldnt end up dead.

guilty parties should.... thats the point.

I will admit we don't yet know the story...the press conference has been moved back. I assume until whatever is happening at Harrow Road is done. Lets assume he was a bomber or something similar..if it had become known that there was an officer there that could have stopped him and they didn't what do you think the public would say?
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yeah like panic, fear, terror.

if he was not guilty, then what?

cops shouldnt be allowed to just gun people down.

then again, here in america cops taser 9 year old handcuffed girls.
The reports are saying he had a bomb on, would you prefer the police allow him to detonate it before they shoot him?

The police carrying guns in the UK are some of the most highly trained cops in the world, they should not be compared to NYPD or the cops in Czech.

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LETAS ASSUME HE IS INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY>

terror has already won if you are trading liberty for security. looks like terrorists have this corner of the world in their pockets now.

lets shoot people and just assume they were guilty

remember 1984 wasnt written about America in 2005 thats for sure.

they are keeeping the news from the public and shooting suspects, sounds like the war on terror is doing great
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The reports are saying he had a bomb on, would you prefer the police allow him to detonate it before they shoot him?

The police carrying guns in the UK are soe of the most highly trained cops in the world, they should not be compared to NYPD or the cops in Czech.
i would prefer if the news said more, but all i see in this thread is "SUSPECT DEAD"

is the title of the thread "guy with bombs shot dead?"

NO, it says SUSPECT.
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I will admit we don't yet know the story...the press conference has been moved back. I assume until whatever is happening at Harrow Road is done. Lets assume he was a bomber or something similar..if it had become known that there was an officer there that could have stopped him and they didn't what do you think the public would say?
1/Someone who lives in a city who has been going through a wave of suicide and attempted suicide bombings, and who is told by police to stop, but instead choses to run deserve to be shot and killed.

2/If Ken "The Red" Livingston and people living in London start to complain and cry police brutality, then maybe they desserve a little more "awakening"
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if he had bombs strapped to him, then i guess he is guilty hahahah'

i close my case if he had bombs on him
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1/Someone who lives in a city who has been going through a wave of suicide and attempted suicide bombings, and who is told by police to stop, but instead choses to run deserve to be shot and killed.
i love the 2way intelligence increases during times of crisis.

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Yes, and you are a very clever one too
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nice some details are coming out

"They pushed him onto the floor and unloaded five shots into him. He's dead," witness Mark Whitby told the British Broadcasting Corp.
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Yes, and you are a very clever one too
wishing cops the right to shoot people in the back shows your intelligence and thought process, i need not say more.
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wishing cops the right to shoot people in the back shows your intelligence and thought process, i need not say more.
Retarded people who do not obey orders given by the police in a time of heavy crisis such as in London now deserve to be KILLED
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NO.

LETAS ASSUME HE IS INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY>

terror has already won if you are trading liberty for security. looks like terrorists have this corner of the world in their pockets now.

lets shoot people and just assume they were guilty

remember 1984 wasnt written about America in 2005 thats for sure.

they are keeeping the news from the public and shooting suspects, sounds like the war on terror is doing great
I'm afraid if you do not take instant action the terrorists have won anyway. The only way out of this situation is to stop invading Muslim countries, sitting down and talking to them and trying to settle there grieviences.

Take away the ground support and they will whither and die. Provide them with more recruits and backing and they will not.

Maybe Bush should be told INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY. Because until that fool stops his illegal occupation of another country we will have more events like this.
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I'm afraid if you do not take instant action the terrorists have won anyway. The only way out of this situation is to stop invading Muslim countries, sitting down and talking to them and trying to settle there grieviences.

Take away the ground support and they will whither and die. Provide them with more recruits and backing and they will not.

Maybe Bush should be told INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY. Because until that fool stops his illegal occupation of another country we will have more events like this.
ah so Bush and America is to blame for this. gotcha.
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mybe Blair shouldnt be making money with the Bush family?

I dont like America being blamed though.

You put the blame for this on us?
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i would prefer if the news said more, but all i see in this thread is "SUSPECT DEAD"

is the title of the thread "guy with bombs shot dead?"

NO, it says SUSPECT.
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it's all bullshit....four bombs that fail to go off, suspects that are able to get away ON FOOT in broad daylight, a supposed "suspect" being shot when they KNOW that they could have gotten more information from this alleged suspect....All while they're trying to pass the patriot act here in America...

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mybe Blair shouldnt be making money with the Bush family?

I dont like America being blamed though.

You put the blame for this on us?

*sigh* just a bit grumpy today
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and again, you are not unintelligent...you surely understand that just because the press don't have an offfical headline yet doesn't mean the police don't know the truth. I understand that to some people every cop is evil but I disagree and if you are going to live in a city like London at the moment you have to have that attitude.
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ah so Bush and America is to blame for this. gotcha.
So it was not Bush he decided to invade Iraq for the wrong reasons and no evidence. Maybe you would like to tell us who is to blame then.

Also coupled with the US adminstrations backing and support of Israel. This problem will not go away until you remove the reason for the hate.
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So it was not Bush he decided to invade Iraq for the wrong reasons and no evidence. Maybe you would like to tell us who is to blame then.

Also coupled with the US adminstrations backing and support of Israel. This problem will not go away until you remove the reason for the hate.
Of course, the solution is an immediate withdrawal from Iraq and no more support for Israel so all the Arab states can destroy it...
And after that all radical Muslims will love us all and we will all sing kumbayah under a big oak tree


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....All while they're trying to pass the patriot act here in America...
Trying???? Um - maybe you missed the news but the House passed it yesterday with a landslide - up to the senate now where it will have no problem this fall
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Old 07-22-2005, 08:45 AM   #45
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that had 2 arms each?
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Why did they shoot him if he was dead?
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Old 07-22-2005, 08:52 AM   #46
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i would prefer if the news said more, but all i see in this thread is "SUSPECT DEAD"

is the title of the thread "guy with bombs shot dead?"

NO, it says SUSPECT.
I have posted this same response before..but here it goes again.

If you're dealing with the police *people with guns* and they ask you to stop, or pull over and you run you have now changed the rules of the game.

Death is now a possibility, or at least serious bodily harm.

If you were given the responsibility to enforce the law, or safegaurd a location and someone came running at you and you have your weapon drawn and have made demands and they still continue what do you do?

The guy may have been innocent, bu as they old saying goes...he may be right..he's dead right.
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Old 07-22-2005, 08:59 AM   #47
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So it was not Bush he decided to invade Iraq for the wrong reasons and no evidence. Maybe you would like to tell us who is to blame then.
This is the kind of idiocy they want you to be spewing from your hole....
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Old 07-22-2005, 09:04 AM   #48
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if he had bombs strapped to him, then i guess he is guilty hahahah'

i close my case if he had bombs on him


I doubt that's the case ... they would already have said it
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Old 07-22-2005, 09:07 AM   #49
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it's all bullshit....four bombs that fail to go off, suspects that are able to get away ON FOOT in broad daylight, a supposed "suspect" being shot when they KNOW that they could have gotten more information from this alleged suspect....All while they're trying to pass the patriot act here in America...

hmmmmmmm
I agree that's a lil bit fucked up how things happens in the right order for the Bush administration ...
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Old 07-22-2005, 09:40 AM   #50
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Two problems with this whole story that are getting missed -

The cops were not uniformed police - they were plainclothes cops

The guy was on the ground already when they shot him 5 times

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