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AaronM · 07-21-2005, 09:59 PM

I think it's a big mistake to not send all your known employees to the shows.

Here's the thing.....MANY affiliates have built rapport with your account reps and other employees from these boards. They look forward to meeting and partying with these employees. The greener the affiliate the more it means to them to meet these people and develop relationships.

It doesn't matter if your employee is a janitor or the V.P. of sales.....If they have an established personality and open communication with people then get their face out there and let them be seen AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.

It's ALL a bout branding...PERIOD.

You don't have to throw parties or expensive dinners to do this....Just show up and network.

Every long term business relationship that I have includes people I have met in person. If your networker bees are missing shows then it is costing you money.

xanx · 07-21-2005, 10:01 PM

I would agree w/ this also..

baddog · 07-21-2005, 10:06 PM

I have to wonder who hacked AaronM's GFY acct. I can't believe he is saying this.

Seriously.

uno · 07-21-2005, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

I have to wonder who hacked AaronM's GFY acct. I can't believe he is saying this.

Seriously.

I'm sure he means to send only the ones who won't make total asses out of themselves while drunk.

Xenophage · 07-21-2005, 10:08 PM

your sexy when your on your soapbox

beemk · 07-21-2005, 10:09 PM

i agree unless they're some idiot sales reps that make asses of themselves, but in that case they shouldnt be working for them anway. i will send traffic to someone i met and liked over someone i havent any day as long as the site are good.

Ice · 07-21-2005, 10:09 PM

what about affiliate reps, etc that get drunk and make the company look stupid?

uno · 07-21-2005, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by iceicebaby

what about affiliate reps, etc that get drunk and make the company look stupid?

I already said that!

Ice · 07-21-2005, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by uno

I already said that!

blow me for posting it seconds after you

rhon23 · 07-21-2005, 10:14 PM

I was surprised to hear RRRED does not get to go to this show. I just found out last night she is not being sent

baddog · 07-21-2005, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by uno

I'm sure he means to send only the ones who won't make total asses out of themselves while drunk.

Ah, that could be.

Now, if that were all as well behaved as the AFF crew, then for sure, send them along.

uno · 07-21-2005, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by iceicebaby

blow me for posting it seconds after you

I rule more than you. That's all.

AaronM · 07-21-2005, 10:15 PM

About the drunk fuck ups.....It depends on the seriousness of their fuck ups.

Going to the shows should also be considered a privilege. If you fuck up, you may lose that privilege.

Now, if I had a rep that did it more than once and it was a destructive sort of thing....I'd fire them. Hell, I'd most likely fire them during the show the first time if they were being destructive.

uno · 07-21-2005, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

Ah, that could be.

Now, if that were all as well behaved as the AFF crew, then for sure, send them along.

Are you including Lars in that?

Spunky · 07-21-2005, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by iceicebaby

blow me for posting it seconds after you

You like the cock

Ice · 07-21-2005, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by spunky

You like the cock

only yours cupcake

AaronM · 07-21-2005, 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by uno

I rule more than you. That's all.

Actually, you don't.

He asked me the question 3 minutes before you posted it.

[22:05] IceIceBaby: what if the affiliate rep is a drunk dramatic mess? that would make a program look bad
[22:05] AaronM: Then they lose the privilege to go.
[22:05] AaronM: Go ask that question so that I may publicly answer it.
[22:06] IceIceBaby: ehhhh I'll stay out of the drama spotlight..... just wanted your insite
[22:07] AaronM: No drama there. Please ask the question.
[22:07] IceIceBaby: btw I'm on Alien's shit list for saying that I thought Amp is the best designer out there.... he told me to fuck off on icq last night...LOL
[22:08] IceIceBaby: ok I'll ask the question.... I trust you to not pull me into it.....
[22:08] AaronM: Nothing to pull you into. This is just general talk. No drama there.

Sly · 07-21-2005, 10:20 PM

I'm not allowed to go to shows anymore due to disorderly conduct. I get violent when drunk.

baddog · 07-21-2005, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by uno

Are you including Lars in that?

Lars is so well-behaved that I find myself watching myself around him.

People often comment that they don't expect me to party down, but when compared to Lars I am afraid I will come off as a raving lunatic.

RogerV · 07-21-2005, 10:22 PM

Fuck that then they build an Ego and everyone says they will hire them when they really won't they just say it to sound. Kool

I'm keeping eveyone in the sweat shop working

xNetworx · 07-21-2005, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by RogerV

Fuck that then they build an Ego and everyone says they will hire them when they really won't they just say it to sound. Kool

I'm keeping eveyone in the sweat shop working

At least send them to Internext, you're Floridians!

AaronM · 07-21-2005, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by rhon23

I was surprised to hear RRRED does not get to go to this show. I just found out last night she is not being sent

I love RRRed. Who's could possibly overlook her value at these events?

Oh well...It's just my humble opinion.

baddog · 07-21-2005, 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AaronM

I love RRRed. Who's could possibly overlook her value at these events?

Oh well...It's just my humble opinion.

Okay, now it becomes clear. Sometimes someone has to mind the store.

RogerV · 07-21-2005, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by pimpporn

At least send them to Internext, you're Floridians!

the only Person you guys need to know is me and my 4 Hottieboombodies.

I've created enough egos in this biz LOL

StuartD · 07-21-2005, 10:30 PM

I love meeting people in person... their REAL true colours come out.

Some guys are smooth on the boards but an ass in person, some are an ass on the boards but very cool in person.

Some are the same on the boards as they are in person.

You just never know until you find out for yourself.

RogerV · 07-21-2005, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by NichePay - StuartD

I love meeting people in person... their REAL true colours come out.

Some guys are smooth on the boards but an ass in person, some are an ass on the boards but very cool in person.

Some are the same on the boards as they are in person.

You just never know until you find out for yourself.

I'm always the same set in my ways

Sly · 07-21-2005, 10:31 PM

I'm pretty surprised RRRed doesn't make it to the shows, too. Isn't she in charge of affiliates for Reality Cash? Someone like that should be making an appearance, I would think.

I need to start making more shows again, I've only been to 2 this year so far. Internext is out, but there's 2 others this year I'm going to try to make.

Tango · 07-21-2005, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by rhon23

I was surprised to hear RRRED does not get to go to this show. I just found out last night she is not being sent

what is that shit? she's like one of the top dogs (not in a sexual way) of the adult.com program - seems rather odd that a plane tick, room and couple days of food wouldn't be worth it - at least image wise if not for 1 or 2 deals that would easily pay for that plus - just my

fatal attraction · 07-21-2005, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by rhon23

I was surprised to hear RRRED does not get to go to this show. I just found out last night she is not being sent

WTF???? Really? That sucks

rhon23 · 07-21-2005, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by fatal attraction

WTF???? Really? That sucks

us girlies gotta stick together here

Doctor Dre · 07-21-2005, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by beemk

i agree unless they're some idiot sales reps that make asses of themselves, but in that case they shouldnt be working for them anway. i will send traffic to someone i met and liked over someone i havent any day as long as the site are good.

I don't know about you but ... bad sales rep, idiots like you call them, are very easy to spot and I don't do business with them ...

Mistakes are human thought ... and I wouldn't judge somebody for beeing drunk at a show ;)

Doctor Dre · 07-21-2005, 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AaronM

About the drunk fuck ups.....It depends on the seriousness of their fuck ups.

Going to the shows should also be considered a privilege. If you fuck up, you may lose that privilege.

Now, if I had a rep that did it more than once and it was a destructive sort of thing....I'd fire them. Hell, I'd most likely fire them during the show the first time if they were being destructive.

Definitly fired after the first bullshit (unless the guy have been working for years, always been loyal, good employe etc)

Doctor Dre · 07-21-2005, 10:48 PM

RRRED is getting some major luv in this thread ;)

Tango · 07-21-2005, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Doctor Dre

I don't know about you but ... bad sales rep, idiots like you call them, are very easy to spot and I don't do business with them ...

Mistakes are human thought ... and I wouldn't judge somebody for beeing drunk at a show ;)

RRRED is not even close to being in this type of category - just kinda strange that for one of the primary shows of the year, and one of the primary companies in the biz that she's not representing @ the show

edit:: add:: didn't see your post about luv for RRRED till after I posted

AaronM · 07-21-2005, 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tango

RRRED is not even close to being in this type of category - just kinda strange that for one of the primary shows of the year, and one of the primary companies in the biz that she's not representing @ the show

edit:: add:: didn't see your post about luv for RRRED till after I posted

Although I would like to see RRRed at these shows, there I one thing to keep in mind....

Lensman has the Webmaster Access shows now. Perhaps....And I may be jumping to conclusions here....But perhaps he is not as interested in putting money into competing shows?

BUT.....My opinion still stands. I personally think it's a mistake to not have people like RRRed there.

Tango · 07-21-2005, 10:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AaronM

Although I would like to see RRRed at these shows, there I one thing to keep in mind....

Lensman has the Webmaster Access shows now. Perhaps....And I may be jumping to conclusions here....But perhaps he is not as interested in putting money into competing shows?

BUT.....My opinion still stands. I personally think it's a mistake to not have people like RRRed there.

well thats true - but biz is biz and I'm more than certain at least 1 or 2 deals could come out of just showing up - meetin/greetin - more than enough to cover air and expenses

Jason · 07-21-2005, 11:00 PM

i have the best marketing team possiable going to the show

StuartD · 07-21-2005, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by PornDollar

i have the best marketing team possiable going to the show

Almost, but I'm not there so not quite

j/k

sicone · 07-21-2005, 11:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AaronM

I think it's a big mistake to not send all your known employees to the shows.

Here's the thing.....MANY affiliates have built rapport with your account reps and other employees from these boards. They look forward to meeting and partying with these employees. The greener the affiliate the more it means to them to meet these people and develop relationships.

It doesn't matter if your employee is a janitor or the V.P. of sales.....If they have an established personality and open communication with people then get their face out there and let them be seen AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.

It's ALL a bout branding...PERIOD.

You don't have to throw parties or expensive dinners to do this....Just show up and network.

Every long term business relationship that I have includes people I have met in person. If your networker bees are missing shows then it is costing you money.

I agree

now lets get me to this show

SiMpLe · 07-21-2005, 11:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sly

I'm not allowed to go to shows anymore due to disorderly conduct. I get violent when drunk.

I thought it was because of your pink purse.

( oh yeah i never forget

)

Chris · 07-21-2005, 11:24 PM

hehe maybe my bosses will read this ;)

Lensman · 07-21-2005, 11:29 PM

Thank god Aaron isn't talking about Adult.com staff.

sicone · 07-21-2005, 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Lensman

Thank god Aaron isn't talking about Adult.com staff.

ahhh damn

sicone · 07-21-2005, 11:38 PM

does that mean a send Sic to florida petition thread wouldnt help much?

I could practice my photography skills. Girls like guys with skills

TheDoc · 07-21-2005, 11:38 PM

A good amount of large companies don't send reps to the shows.. Often enough nobody from the company will go.. Ifriends and NastyD come to mind.. Lots really.. Many with families don't go.

I don't ever goto the FL show.. I hit 2 a year, Vegas and Phoenix.. Better than none I guess

AaronM · 07-21-2005, 11:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lensman

Thank god Aaron isn't talking about Adult.com staff.

Not at all. Speaking in general about ALL programs.

Is my opinion not welcome here tonight?

WiredGuy · 07-21-2005, 11:50 PM

I agree with that, especially the ones you do long term business with. For sure.
WG

Rochard · 07-22-2005, 12:16 AM

This year I'm only doing four shows - Vegas, Phoenix Forum, San Diego, and then YP Mexico. Although I'm well known and perhaps even liked by some, I'm an operations kind of guy and my contact with affiliates is limited. Other than supporting Steve Lightspeed and Sweetums, flying the company colors, and generally making an ass out of myself there is no real reason for me to go.

TheDoc · 07-22-2005, 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by RocHard

liked by some - making an ass out of myself

Always good to see RocHard at the shows

Nysus · 07-22-2005, 12:23 AM

Good post, it's a very good idea; main reason I'd think they don't fly everyone down is that they're not big enough to; but if you're a 2 person operation, if at least one person can afford to go (I know it's not THAT expensive, but it potentially could be) then they should go, it'll be worthwhile if you're polite, respectful and not an idiot with anyone. Doh'pe

Matt

07-21-2005, 09:59 PM	#1
AaronM Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: ┌∩┐ ◣_◢ ┌∩┐ Posts: 46,909	Program owners READ THIS! I think it's a big mistake to not send all your known employees to the shows. Here's the thing.....MANY affiliates have built rapport with your account reps and other employees from these boards. They look forward to meeting and partying with these employees. The greener the affiliate the more it means to them to meet these people and develop relationships. It doesn't matter if your employee is a janitor or the V.P. of sales.....If they have an established personality and open communication with people then get their face out there and let them be seen AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. It's ALL a bout branding...PERIOD. You don't have to throw parties or expensive dinners to do this....Just show up and network. Every long term business relationship that I have includes people I have met in person. If your networker bees are missing shows then it is costing you money.

07-21-2005, 10:09 PM	#6
beemk CLICK HERE Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 20,829	i agree unless they're some idiot sales reps that make asses of themselves, but in that case they shouldnt be working for them anway. i will send traffic to someone i met and liked over someone i havent any day as long as the site are good. __________________ I host with Vacares

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Ice Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Sunny California Posts: 26,053	what about affiliate reps, etc that get drunk and make the company look stupid? __________________ icq 1904905

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Sly Let's do some business! Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 31,329	I'm not allowed to go to shows anymore due to disorderly conduct. I get violent when drunk. __________________ Vacares - Web Hosting, Domains, O365, Security & More - Paxum and BTC Accepted Windows VPS now available Great for TSS, Nifty Stats, remote work, virtual assistants, etc. Click here for more details.

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StuartD Sofa King Band Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Outside the box Posts: 29,903	I love meeting people in person... their REAL true colours come out. Some guys are smooth on the boards but an ass in person, some are an ass on the boards but very cool in person. Some are the same on the boards as they are in person. You just never know until you find out for yourself. __________________ This is me on facebook This is me on twitter

07-21-2005, 10:01 PM	#2
xanx Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 3,711	I would agree w/ this also..

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baddog So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: the beach, SoCal Posts: 107,089	I have to wonder who hacked AaronM's GFY acct. I can't believe he is saying this. Seriously.

07-21-2005, 10:08 PM	#5
Xenophage Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 12,122	your sexy when your on your soapbox

07-21-2005, 10:14 PM	#10
rhon23 Rebel Girl Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: The Island Of Misfit Toys Posts: 3,264	I was surprised to hear RRRED does not get to go to this show. I just found out last night she is not being sent

07-21-2005, 10:15 PM	#13
AaronM Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: ┌∩┐ ◣_◢ ┌∩┐ Posts: 46,909	About the drunk fuck ups.....It depends on the seriousness of their fuck ups. Going to the shows should also be considered a privilege. If you fuck up, you may lose that privilege. Now, if I had a rep that did it more than once and it was a destructive sort of thing....I'd fire them. Hell, I'd most likely fire them during the show the first time if they were being destructive.

07-21-2005, 10:22 PM	#20
RogerV Banned! Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 12,591	Fuck that then they build an Ego and everyone says they will hire them when they really won't they just say it to sound. Kool I'm keeping eveyone in the sweat shop working

07-21-2005, 10:31 PM	#27
Sly Let's do some business! Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 31,329	I'm pretty surprised RRRed doesn't make it to the shows, too. Isn't she in charge of affiliates for Reality Cash? Someone like that should be making an appearance, I would think. I need to start making more shows again, I've only been to 2 this year so far. Internext is out, but there's 2 others this year I'm going to try to make. __________________ Vacares - Web Hosting, Domains, O365, Security & More - Paxum and BTC Accepted Windows VPS now available Great for TSS, Nifty Stats, remote work, virtual assistants, etc. Click here for more details.

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Jason Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 4,287	i have the best marketing team possiable going to the show __________________ I stay busy.

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Chris Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Location: icq: 71462500 Skype: Jupzchris Posts: 27,880	hehe maybe my bosses will read this ;) __________________ [email protected]

07-21-2005, 11:29 PM	#42
Lensman GFY Chaperone Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Adult.com Posts: 9,846	Thank god Aaron isn't talking about Adult.com staff.

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sicone Retired Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Sac Posts: 18,453	does that mean a send Sic to florida petition thread wouldnt help much? I could practice my photography skills. Girls like guys with skills __________________

07-21-2005, 11:38 PM	#45
TheDoc Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Currently Incognito Posts: 13,827	A good amount of large companies don't send reps to the shows.. Often enough nobody from the company will go.. Ifriends and NastyD come to mind.. Lots really.. Many with families don't go. I don't ever goto the FL show.. I hit 2 a year, Vegas and Phoenix.. Better than none I guess __________________ ~TheDoc - ICQ7765825 It's all disambiguation

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WiredGuy Pounding Googlebot Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 34,485	I agree with that, especially the ones you do long term business with. For sure. WG __________________ I play with Google.

07-22-2005, 12:16 AM	#48
Rochard Jägermeister Test Pilot Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: NORCAL Posts: 74,057	This year I'm only doing four shows - Vegas, Phoenix Forum, San Diego, and then YP Mexico. Although I'm well known and perhaps even liked by some, I'm an operations kind of guy and my contact with affiliates is limited. Other than supporting Steve Lightspeed and Sweetums, flying the company colors, and generally making an ass out of myself there is no real reason for me to go. __________________ “The choice is no longer between right or left. The choice is between normal and crazy.” - Sarah Huckabee Sanders YNOT MAIL \| THE BEST ADULT MAILING SOLUTION

07-22-2005, 12:23 AM	#50
Nysus Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 7,817	Good post, it's a very good idea; main reason I'd think they don't fly everyone down is that they're not big enough to; but if you're a 2 person operation, if at least one person can afford to go (I know it's not THAT expensive, but it potentially could be) then they should go, it'll be worthwhile if you're polite, respectful and not an idiot with anyone. Doh'pe Matt __________________ What name is pr0 / Untouched Markets using these days? Untouched Markets - pr0 - Refund My Money Now Someone owes me $2,000 because they didn't do any work that was paid for pointing at pr0 / William / UntouchedMarkets See https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/948258-untouchedmarkets-pr0-refund-money-post16744521.html and for more detailed see https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/948645-re-recent-bullshit-drama-explained-detail-pr0-untouched-markets.html