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StuartD 07-20-2005 09:56 AM

Remember when people used to care about their own business and not the business of others?

EDIT: 50 BITE ME woj'S :glugglug

TheDoc 07-20-2005 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PR_Tom
If you have received anything from an affiliate of ours, do hit me up on ICQ so they can be terminated.

ps: that includes someone who *IS* in compliance, as we accept *NO* email traffic. Period.


I don't think I have seen any spams or emails from you guys :)

I do however look at my spam email, it's a great way to get marketing ideas.

SleazyDream 07-20-2005 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NichePay - StuartD
Remember when people used to care about their own business and not the business of others?

no, when was that?

azguy 07-20-2005 09:58 AM

It's easy for programs to claim "rogue affiliates" do the actual spamming.. What's to stop a program for simply sending mail supposedly from an affiliate? It doesn't take a genious to come up with such a scheme.

triumph 07-20-2005 10:00 AM

There is no money in Mailings, No Money In SEO, and No Money in TGP's

:( How do we make money now, hehe

Rinaldo 07-20-2005 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Platinum Dave
Also Brad why are you singling out one company?

Is Canada not targeting canadian companies too?
I know MS is.

StuartD 07-20-2005 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream
no, when was that?

I was hoping that someone did so that they could tell me about it. Sounds like it would have been a pretty decent era to live in.

leedsfan 07-20-2005 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by NichePay - StuartD
I was hoping that someone did so that they could tell me about it. Sounds like it would have been a pretty decent era to live in.

I have a feeling it would get boring. Just like whining like a girl about other people's problems while you go bald, must be boring to some in Texas.

sherie 07-20-2005 10:20 AM

I don't know why anyone is shocked by this LOL Almost every company in the freeworld allowed mail.

Where are all those mailers sending now, that's what I'd like to know.

TDF 07-20-2005 10:22 AM

im quite sure those fines are drops in the bucket compared to what they really made.

lchaim 07-20-2005 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TDF
im quite sure those fines are drops in the bucket compared to what they really made.

I'd have to second that 'quite sure'

650k is nothing if they had some decent mailers pushing them

what they need to do now is learn how to form a non-profit organization or become a political candidate so you can spam freely without harrassment from the ftc

topbizucksMark 07-20-2005 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by azguy
It's easy for programs to claim "rogue affiliates" do the actual spamming.. What's to stop a program for simply sending mail supposedly from an affiliate? It doesn't take a genious to come up with such a scheme.

I guess nothing stops them, but it is simply bad business. A scheme like this cannot be very hard to spot and then what follows would be a mess bigger then what is currently going on.

azguy 07-20-2005 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by topbizucksMark
I guess nothing stops them, but it is simply bad business. A scheme like this cannot be very hard to spot and then what follows would be a mess bigger then what is currently going on.

That's simply not true. It'd appear as if it was just another affiliate, nothing more and nothing less. Makes you wonder if that's what some of them do. The "sorry, it was an affiliate of ours" excuse is old.

swami 07-20-2005 11:56 AM

In the wash its the affiliates who end up paying.
we just get shaved a little more.
Maybe Its started now already 3:8000 :disgust

(those stats are not one particular company btw)

Cory W 07-20-2005 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by p1mpdogg
pipecrew is a sales rep.... he couldnt pay a bar tab.


Are you serious? Sincerly, I thought he owned it judging from his post.

Man, I am naive sometimes if you are right.

Bro, how hot is it today in the OC hood? We are steaming. I keep bringing Gabe water, but I don't think he is going to make it.

TheDoc 07-20-2005 12:12 PM

If it was "just an affilate" and they closed "every affilates" account that broke the spam laws they wouldn't be paying $650k fine.. They would be fighting it, much like TopBucks is doing..

Settlement means they admit they broke the law in some way. It would be much cheaper for them to fight it, unless they thought the FTC would win the fight...

Breaking the law isn't okay, and paying a $650k isn't a big deal for a lot of adult companies.. It is a big deal though when it's a fine for breaking the law.

Trax 07-20-2005 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swami
In the wash its the affiliates who end up paying.
we just get shaved a little more.
Maybe Its started now already 3:8000 :disgust

(those stats are not one particular company btw)

alan... could you send me the name via icq please? I would love to hear which one it is to compare data.
thanks

Dax 07-20-2005 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by WEG Cory
Are you serious? Sincerly, I thought he owned it judging from his post.

Man, I am naive sometimes if you are right.

Bro, how hot is it today in the OC hood? We are steaming. I keep bringing Gabe water, but I don't think he is going to make it.

He doesn't own it.. but he is not a sales rep... There is a lot more in there than most ppl know.. :thumbsup

Cory W 07-20-2005 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dax
He doesn't own it.. but he is not a sales rep... There is a lot more in there than most ppl know.. :thumbsup

I see.

I knew it had to be something more than that. Most people are different in person.

Pimpdog is a real nice guy in person.

CDSmith 07-20-2005 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WEG Cory
Pimpdog is a real nice guy in person.

Of course he is. He gets a lot less ass-kickings that way. :1orglaugh

p1mpdogg 07-20-2005 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WEG Cory
Are you serious? Sincerly, I thought he owned it judging from his post.

Man, I am naive sometimes if you are right.

Bro, how hot is it today in the OC hood? We are steaming. I keep bringing Gabe water, but I don't think he is going to make it.


115 right now, been about 118.. but i live in AZ now....


yea he is just a sales rep..

TheDoc 07-20-2005 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CDSmith
Of course he is. He gets a lot less ass-kickings that way. :1orglaugh

hehe.. true dat..

Bugbee 07-20-2005 12:32 PM

7 total

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Cory W 07-20-2005 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CDSmith
Of course he is. He gets a lot less ass-kickings that way. :1orglaugh

I have always gotten along with most of the board nemesis, if you will. I just see past it most of the time. I get along with a lot more people that way.

I just don't have the time to fight with people. And the things that make someone likeable in my eyes really have nothing to do with how they express themselves.

Take Brad for example, he has a way of saying things, but if you choose to read it without a grudge, you see he is right a lot. :2 cents:

p1mpdogg 07-20-2005 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CDSmith
Of course he is. He gets a lot less ass-kickings that way. :1orglaugh


arent you the sick fuck that isnt even allowed in the USA anymore?

felony charges about kids and lakes and snuff flicks?


i forget the whole story. let me dig it up.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 07-20-2005 12:35 PM

LOL, this thread is awesome...

I am celebrating today.

p1mpdogg 07-20-2005 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by p1mpdogg
arent you the sick fuck that isnt even allowed in the USA anymore?

felony charges about kids and lakes and snuff flicks?


i forget the whole story. let me dig it up.


if i recall, it was you and your brother charged with making snuff flicks..

then there was another 'incident' involving you and a camera and a lake and kids on the beach.

a reliable source from this forum and the industry told me about it, not sure if i could ever find documentation on that, but i think i will spend some today on that.

thanks cd for giving me something todo today.

Joesho 07-20-2005 12:38 PM

Bradshaw is it true you made a deal with the feds in order to not be on this list? and that you somehow implicated these other companies in that deal?

or is that just a nasty rumor?

sherie 07-20-2005 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WEG Cory
I have always gotten along with most of the board nemesis, if you will. I just see past it most of the time. I get along with a lot more people that way.

I just don't have the time to fight with people. And the things that make someone likeable in my eyes really have nothing to do with how they express themselves.

Take Brad for example, he has a way of saying things, but if you choose to read it without a grudge, you see he is right a lot. :2 cents:

However, if he called people names and said things about their mothers etc., to their faces I am sure that he would have his fair share of knuckle sammiches to ingest. I believe that is what his post was about.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 07-20-2005 12:43 PM

Oh snap!

Dig that shit up Pimpdawg!

AHahahha!

p1mpdogg 07-20-2005 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sherie
However, if he called people names and said things about their mothers etc., to their faces I am sure that he would have his fair share of knuckle sammiches to ingest. I believe that is what his post was about.


I have yet to even be approached by anyone in this industry in person that threatend me or harrassed me etc.

i have been to 4 shows. plenty of opportunity for anyone to confront me and my evil soul.

and im just a little guy

180 5'10" and devilishly handsome on my good days :)

haha

Anthony 07-20-2005 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WEG Cory
Originally Posted by Anthony
Cory...

You've stepped over the line from Metro, to full out Homo.

I am so honored.

Expect a big kiss from me in a few days.

Yes there will be tounge action.

:upsidedow

venus 07-20-2005 12:48 PM

How do you know the programs are not spamming?

What I know is that my mail server has been blacklisted by spamhaus because its at the same place topbucks mail server is at and has a very long history of spamming. I even emailed topbucks about their spamming getting my IP address listed and all they said was they was working an agreement with spamhaus.
So to say some of these programs are not spamming is is just inaccurate.


Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett
What gets me is it's not the program that is doing the spamming,


p1mpdogg 07-20-2005 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anthony
I am so honored.

Expect a big kiss from me in a few days.

Yes there will be tounge action.

:upsidedow


fag!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

CDSmith 07-20-2005 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by p1mpdogg
arent you the sick fuck that isnt even allowed in the USA anymore?

felony charges about kids and lakes and snuff flicks?


i forget the whole story. let me dig it up.

*yawn*

Same tiresome insults from Trey Hickey.... ex con.


:1orglaugh

p1mpdogg 07-20-2005 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by venus
How do you know the programs are not spamming?

What I know is that my mail server has been blacklisted by spamhaus because its at the same place topbucks mail server is at and has a very long history of spamming. I even emailed topbucks about their spamming getting my IP address listed and all they said was they was working an agreement with spamhaus.
So to say some of these programs are not spamming is is just inaccurate.


i think your tits are too big for your body

Cory W 07-20-2005 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anthony
I am so honored.

Expect a big kiss from me in a few days.

Yes there will be tounge action.

:upsidedow

Ahh...Florida is approaching.

p1mpdogg 07-20-2005 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CDSmith
*yawn*

Same tiresome insults from Trey Hickey.... ex con.


:1orglaugh


live and learn dont we convict?

us convicts goto stick together

sherie 07-20-2005 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by p1mpdogg
I have yet to even be approached by anyone in this industry in person that threatend me or harrassed me etc.

i have been to 4 shows. plenty of opportunity for anyone to confront me and my evil soul.

and im just a little guy

180 5'10" and devilishly handsome on my good days :)

haha

My point is that you have not approached anybody at the show's to tell them that their mother is a whore or that they shave or that they are pedo's and all those other fun names you toss around. Most people will deal with your board persona and leave it on the board, but I doubt very much you would take your board persona to the show and start dishing out the shit you do on here. I know I would start slitting throats.

Peaches 07-20-2005 12:52 PM

I want tickets for the Anthony/Cory action :)

CDSmith 07-20-2005 12:53 PM

Unfounded empty insults pulled out of thin air with no base in fact.....

okay....


Trey Hickey did time for touching his neighbor's 5 yr old boy. I heard he aiso beat the shit out of you for it. understandible.

Trey's arrest is a matter of public record.

Anything else?

:D

p1mpdogg 07-20-2005 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sherie
My point is that you have not approached anybody at the show's to tell them that their mother is a whore or that they shave or that they are pedo's and all those other fun names you toss around. Most people will deal with your board persona and leave it on the board, but I doubt very much you would take your board persona to the show and start dishing out the shit you do on here. I know I would start slitting throats.


who takes their board persona to the shows?

dont tell me you take this shit seriously?

p1mpdogg 07-20-2005 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CDSmith
Unfounded empty insults pulled out of thin air with no base in fact.....

okay....


Trey Hickey did time for touching his neighbor's 5 yr old boy. I heard he aiso beat the shit out of you for it. understandible.

Trey's arrest is a matter of public record.

Anything else?

:D


the kid deserved it, he peed on my bushes.

venus 07-20-2005 12:56 PM

thats what you get for thinking.


Quote:

Originally Posted by p1mpdogg
i think your tits are too big for your body


p1mpdogg 07-20-2005 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CDSmith
Unfounded empty insults pulled out of thin air with no base in fact.....

okay....


Trey Hickey did time for touching his neighbor's 5 yr old boy. I heard he aiso beat the shit out of you for it. understandible.

Trey's arrest is a matter of public record.

Anything else?

:D


actually my arrest IS public record, but it wasnt for touching a 5yr old boy. it was for criminal mischief and it was a felony because of the value of the property.

whats your felony for CD Smith?

CDSmith 07-20-2005 12:57 PM

Pimptrey is attempting to deflect any negativity he brings on himself and his acacia-feeding program by throwing the same old personal attacks and empty insults.

Lame.

Cory W 07-20-2005 12:58 PM

I am my board persona. Haha.

p1mpdogg 07-20-2005 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by venus
thats what you get for thinking.


ouch... a little bit of c u n tness in you today?

you know those fake tits are way to big for your littel body... not that i wouldnt fuck you in the ass and make you suck my dirty cock, but im just saying.. your tits ARE to big for your body.

dont get offended

baddog 07-20-2005 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hova
damn, that's a serious fine! Looks like the witch hunt has begun


Do you even know what a witch hunt is, and if so, how do you figure this is one?

p1mpdogg 07-20-2005 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CDSmith
Pimptrey is attempting to deflect any negativity he brings on himself and his acacia-feeding program by throwing the same old personal attacks and empty insults.

Lame.


i canswered your accusation, but you have yet to answer mine.. how come?


instead you turn it around to acacia?
lol

yep, i got a hell of a deal. 1% is better than 10% moron. you are a true businessman.

ask the other 128 programs that settled what they are paying. atleast i am honest.


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