RE: .XXX and other stupid things... - GoFuckYourself.com

MikeHawk · 07-19-2005, 03:19 PM

Well, I just got a call that I am not speaking on the .XXX panel. That is ok I guess cause when I first started posting about all this bullshit, about .XXX I spoke to the group fighting this, and what is shocking to me is this:

1. Why has the FSC not issued a letter directly to ICANN saying they are 100% not for this ?

2. Why didn?t Larry Flynt come out against this clear blow against freedom of speech?

3. Why is everyone so afraid or unable to just do something to say they are against this deal? Simple letters to ICANN saying they are opposed to the idea.

4. Not one single letter on behalf of anyone I have spoken to about this .XXX has been recorded to the ICANN group that I am aware of. So according to them we are all for this 60 dollar domain take over our internet and move us to the Ghetto deal.

Last but not least, I am going to sit in front of the room and ask the owner and Jason of this .XXX why they would use children to clearly make this huge business deal. I don?t get it? If it?s so great then why not just say "hey it?s a new domain, blah blah blah, but the using of our children to sell some business idea just makes me want to throw up.

Don?t get me wrong I am all for good business this is not, they will make millions of dollars and then there is the issues of all our domains personally be swiped by whom ever, then the Govt showing great interest in this leading me to believe that the control of our industry is near a danger point indeed.

I have blasted on the boards and made phone calls, and gone out on a limb on this, those who said they would do something clearly have not, so I am now going to concentrate on the business at hand with Smashbucks, we have so much great stuff coming out, it?s sick.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 07-19-2005, 03:24 PM

Kinda sucks doesnt it Mike?

I am telling ya why...

The industry needs regulation and the legit companies in this industry know it and they are tired of dealing with scammers and competing with companies that go below the letter of the law in many facets from abusive spam practice to Unsolicited advertising to giving porn to kids via TGP's. Not to mention the loss of content value accross the board.

The small people will die out and thats a good thing in my book.
I do not want them and I guess alot of other companies realise this to.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 07-19-2005, 03:26 PM

The legit webmasters out there will embrace .XXX in the long run.

Bank on it.

Hardlinks · 07-19-2005, 03:26 PM

Im sorry Mike but i have to show you this.

http://www.big-boys.com/articles/mikehawk.html

Hope it spices up your day atleast a little bit. People need to act on what you have said not just talk the talk.

MikeHawk · 07-19-2005, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by AlienQ

Kinda sucks doesnt it Mike?

I am telling ya why...

The industry needs regulation and the legit companies in this industry know it and they are tired of dealing with scammers and competing with companies that go below the letter of the law in many facets from abusive spam practice to Unsolicited advertising to giving porn to kids via TGP's. Not to mention the loss of content value accross the board.

The small people will die out and thats a good thing in my book.
I do not want them and I guess alot of other companies realise this to.

Mark you are dreamin again, this .XXX will not do a thing except make those people that much richer and they have sold out our industry, when willl you get that fact?

Hardlinks · 07-19-2005, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by AlienQ

The legit webmasters out there will embrace .XXX in the long run.

Bank on it.

And let me guess. Your a prime example of a legit webmaster?

Matt M · 07-19-2005, 03:29 PM

Damn Mike!!! that really sucks. You would have been perfect for the panal. I am very disappointed. Sorry to hear this for sure.

Like we both new though, there is some very players involved in this, and they willprotect there interests at any cost....

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 07-19-2005, 03:30 PM

Its not a crime to capitalise on opportunity.

Welcome to capitalism.

This particular aspect of capitlism is much needed.
This industry is burning at both ends. Its a good time to cut the losses and recover as a legitamate industry in not only the USA, but the world.

I seen the structures IFFOR is scoring out, it looks good to me in some ways.
though I wish the Non Profits that defend our industry would get with the ball game.

They know it makes perfect sense and the denial sucks.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 07-19-2005, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Hardlinks

And let me guess. Your a prime example of a legit webmaster?

Absolutly.
To the letter.

I am a designer and depend on legitamate companies to keep moving forward.

Harley Girl · 07-19-2005, 03:37 PM

sorry to hear that Mike...

Cains · 07-19-2005, 03:39 PM

.XXX is a positive thing in my book and I'm all for it. If you feel threatened by any future implications (which I do not feel will happen) of .XXX I would suggest you take them up with the relevant authority (ie, the US government) rather than the ICM Registry.

For parents, .XXX is a positive and it is a good selling point. Please explain to me how .XXX will have a negative impact on children

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 07-19-2005, 03:42 PM

PS: Mike

I really like you man I really do and I very much enjoy'd debating the topic with you and others. SmashBucks is a great program, your a great leader for it and my hats will always go off to you for patience and a serious "Go get em" attitude.

Seriously your one of the greats that have alot of concern for this industry I respect that alot and I can not express that hardly enough.

Matt M · 07-19-2005, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Cains

For parents, .XXX is a positive and it is a good selling point. Please explain to me how .XXX will have a negative impact on children

I dont understand how it is going to have a positive impact on children. Children are only being used to "sell" this, nothing more, and if you think that have a new TLD .XXX is going to make children safer you are being Naive.

Cains · 07-19-2005, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt M

I dont understand how it is going to have a positive impact on children. Children are only being used to "sell" this, nothing more, and if you think that have a new TLD .XXX is going to make children safer you are being Naive.

it's about easy filtering, at the moment netnanny/etc are ineffective due to the sheer number of porn and porn spam sites online. Now .XXX isn't going to force people onto it but I expect alot of people to move to .XXX voluntarily, especially most of the large programs.

tony286 · 07-19-2005, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by AlienQ

Absolutly.
To the letter.

I am a designer and depend on legitamate companies to keep moving forward.

your not a webmaster your a designer so its make sense why you have no idea.ALSo you want the small companies pushed out fuck you .

Matt M · 07-19-2005, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Cains

it's about easy filtering, at the moment netnanny/etc are ineffective due to the sheer number of porn and porn spam sites online. Now .XXX isn't going to force people onto it but I expect alot of people to move to .XXX voluntarily, especially most of the large programs.

I think that is just the worry though Cains, that adult will be FORCED onto .XXX . I am not against anything that will improve this industry at all. I just dont see this as an improvment at all. just another way to make those that have, more.

P.S. I understand your point there totally on the filtering part.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 07-19-2005, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by tony404

your not a webmaster your a designer so its make sense why you have no idea.ALSo you want the small companies pushed out fuck you .

LOL...

I do not mind smaller companies. A legit company no matter what size will fair well in the change and flourish in the long run. I just mind the smaller ones that run fast scams and spams and pump traffic numbers with Minors.

Filthy insane animals.
The day I design shit and know that my work has very few minors viewing it the better.

Guess we know where you sit and support.

tony286 · 07-19-2005, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Cains

it's about easy filtering, at the moment netnanny/etc are ineffective due to the sheer number of porn and porn spam sites online. Now .XXX isn't going to force people onto it but I expect alot of people to move to .XXX voluntarily, especially most of the large programs.

actually you are wrong when copa went back to the supreme court, the justice said we have filters that are excellent for protecting children and if they really cared about children they would of pushed a .kids domain and a .kids only browser. Wake up

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 07-19-2005, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by tony404

actually you are wrong when copa went back to the supreme court, the justice said we have filters that are excellent for protecting children and if they really cared about children they would of pushed a .kids domain and a .kids only browser. Wake up

That Judge didnt see the latest MGP galleries or latest spam's hitting millions of people everyday.
Ya should thank your lucky stars he didnt see it.

tony286 · 07-19-2005, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by AlienQ

LOL...

I do not mind smaller companies. I just mind the smaller ones that run fast scams and spams and pump traffic numbers with Minors.

Filthy insane animals.
The day I design shit and know that my work has very few minors viewing it the better.

Guess we know where you sit and support.

IM a small company , I have had a nonnude tour for 3 yrs so stuff it up your ass. They must pay you well or you were promised something. Your transparent.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 07-19-2005, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by tony404

IM a small company , I have had a nonnude tour for 3 yrs so stuff it up your ass. They must pay you well or you were promised something. Your transparent.

Ghee thought ya said ya were in the bookstore business the other day.
WTF LOL

Cains · 07-19-2005, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt M

I think that is just the worry though Cains, that adult will be FORCED onto .XXX . I am not against anything that will improve this industry at all. I just dont see this as an improvment at all. just another way to make those that have, more.

Ok, let's go down the scenario and everyone with porn on .com is forced onto .XXX

For one, that would not just mean US citizens, it would mean ICANN would have to meet and decide to enforce this law across the board, never going to happen.

The next roadblock would be how to enforce it, how many sites are on the internet, what is the definition of adult?

Let's ignore those for the sake of argument, everyone simply buys a .XXX and forwards their .com's to the .XXX site. It would work because filtering software would still detect you going to a .XXX site. The negative is .XXX costs more than .COM, well if you're not making more than $60 per domain I'd think you're either guilty of buying domains for SEO spam or you're not really earning enough to even pay your hosting account.

.XXX is voluntary and will remain so, it's time we embrace it instead of trying to find arguments against it

tony286 · 07-19-2005, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by AlienQ

That Judge didnt see the latest MGP galleries or latest spam's hitting millions of people everyday.
Ya should thank your lucky stars he didnt see it.

Your wrong and I got a news flash the big fish go ourseas they are going to use you. You can go back to working at art supply store lol

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 07-19-2005, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by tony404

Your wrong and I got a news flash the big fish go ourseas they are going to use you. You can go back to working at art supply store lol

I am an artist...

I am creating works.
I do not deal in the design or creation of illegal content.
I will always have work in this industry.

tony286 · 07-19-2005, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Cains

Ok, let's go down the scenario and everyone with porn on .com is forced onto .XXX

For one, that would not just mean US citizens, it would mean ICANN would have to meet and decide to enforce this law across the board, never going to happen.

The next roadblock would be how to enforce it, how many sites are on the internet, what is the definition of adult?

Let's ignore those for the sake of argument, everyone simply buys a .XXX and forwards their .com's to the .XXX site. It would work because filtering software would still detect you going to a .XXX site. The negative is .XXX costs more than .COM, well if you're not making more than $60 per domain I'd think you're either guilty of buying domains for SEO spam or you're not really earning enough to even pay your hosting account.

.XXX is voluntary and will remain so, it's time we embrace it instead of trying to find arguments against it

EXcuse me in the us they can make a law adult sites can only be on .xxx, it will mean two things one american webmasters will have to comply and foreign webmasters will not be able in enter the country without being arrested if they dont comply. Icann doesnt make the laws in the us the us does

tony286 · 07-19-2005, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by AlienQ

I am an artist...

I am creating works.
I do not deal in the design or creation of illegal content.
I will always have work in this industry.

thats too funny

Cains · 07-19-2005, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by tony404

EXcuse me in the us they can make a law adult sites can only be on .xxx, it will mean two things one american webmasters will have to comply and foreign webmasters will not be able in enter the country without being arrested if they dont comply. Icann doesnt make the laws in the us the us does

I think the US immigration department has better things to worry about than a TGP owner in Sweden

Matt M · 07-19-2005, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Cains

I think the US immigration department has better things to worry about than a TGP owner in Sweden

you would think so, but if the law is made for US webmasters it will still be a bad blow to the industry. it would devide us even more. Yeah that sounds like a great thing to support.

The Other Steve · 07-19-2005, 04:11 PM

Of course you've been kicked off the panel Mike - you can't have a discussion when there's someone on the panel that might disagree with the guys who have the money and the power.

It wouldn't surprise me if your place hasn't already been filled by AlienQ.

Speaking of whom, dear God I wish there was someway to filter out his drivel from the quotes. Having him and his inane prattlings filtered bu the ignore feature is wonderful but then we get it served up to us when someone quotes him.

He's not a webmaster and he's not even much of a designer so why the fuck he's even here sure beats me.

FightThisPatent · 07-19-2005, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Cains

.XXX is a positive thing in my book and I'm all for it. If you feel threatened by any future implications (which I do not feel will happen) of .XXX I would suggest you take them up with the relevant authority

having a .XXX domain will certainly make it easier to identify who should be paying a "sin tax"...

"Democrat Expected to Take Aim at Online Porn, Introduce 25% Tax on Adult Website Sales"

Read: http://www.ynot.com/modules.php?op=m...cle &sid=9597

Fight the Gross effect of taxes on the Net!

The Other Steve · 07-19-2005, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Cains

I think the US immigration department has better things to worry about than a TGP owner in Sweden

Well someone over there was worried enough to pick up a gambling site operator when he got off the plane the other day.

It doesn't take much to flag someone in a data base and it would be an easy hit to grab a foreign pornographer while he was coming into the US to further damage the morals of the good citizens of that great country.

Gunni · 07-19-2005, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Cains

it's about easy filtering, at the moment netnanny/etc are ineffective due to the sheer number of porn and porn spam sites online. Now .XXX isn't going to force people onto it but I expect alot of people to move to .XXX voluntarily, especially most of the large programs.

That's a load of bollocks! It would be easier to make it a rule that all pornsites would have to have a specific keyword in a metatag or what ever, and if they didn't the domain would be revoked. ICANN could easily make that rule, and the government would be fools to disagree. That way the industry would deffinately onitor that them selfs, say some cool domain didn't have that tag, you see it, report them and grab the domain. Self policing at it's best!

This .xxx would ruin years of branding, and besides that, say if person A owns porn.com and person B owns the .net version how are they to decide who gets the .xxx? Is it maybe just supposed to be up for grabs, first come first served?

I don't see this commin through with out some heavy compensation claims.
.xxx would be really cool if they allow porn to be on .com's etc. But not if they bann it...

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 07-19-2005, 04:15 PM

That Sin Tax thing happens all the time.
It wont go through.

Quit scaring the children.

Cains · 07-19-2005, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by FightThisPatent

having a .XXX domain will certainly make it easier to identify who should be paying a "sin tax"...

"Democrat Expected to Take Aim at Online Porn, Introduce 25% Tax on Adult Website Sales"

Read: http://www.ynot.com/modules.php?op=m...cle &sid=9597

Fight the Gross effect of taxes on the Net!

Again, the US government can only tax people in the USA, without ICANN's approval a porn tax would be useless and just mean people re-locate offshore.

But the proposal is just designed to scare people, I'd suggest focusing on that rather than a voluntary new TLD

Jman · 07-19-2005, 04:21 PM

You did what you could Mike. I appreciate a guy like you ;-)

mikesouth · 07-19-2005, 04:26 PM

Once again Alien obfuscates this and spins it away from the real issue...Mike you answered your own question

you were scratched from the panel because you see this for the money grab that it is by ICMR and you see the potential damage that will befall this industry....

Theres a rat someplace....what are they gonna do nix Conner next and fill the panel with scoundrels likes Walters and Picconalli who would trample a thousand babies in an effort to steal a dollar from their mothers?

I only wish I was gonna be there

I hope someone will have the balls to speak for me

Martin · 07-19-2005, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Hardlinks

Im sorry Mike but i have to show you this.

http://www.big-boys.com/articles/mikehawk.html

Hope it spices up your day atleast a little bit. People need to act on what you have said not just talk the talk.

Funny I was just going to post this LOL

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 07-19-2005, 04:39 PM

I love it when people think I am on the .XXX payroll.

I wish I was, I really do!

Cains · 07-19-2005, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by mikesouth

you were scratched from the panel because you see this for the money grab that it is by ICMR and you see the potential damage that will befall this industry....

Do you have any proof to back this up or are you just going to keep making wild accusations?

So anyone who disagees with your opinion is somehow part of a grand conspiracy theory?

The Other Steve · 07-19-2005, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Cains

Do you have any proof to back this up or are you just going to keep making wild accusations?

So anyone who disagees with your opinion is somehow part of a grand conspiracy theory?

Do you have any proof that what Mike said is not right?

From what I've heard - on the balance of probabilities - what Mike said is quite close to the truth.

Cains · 07-19-2005, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by The Other Steve

Do you have any proof that what Mike said is not right?

From what I've heard - on the balance of probabilities - what Mike said is quite close to the truth.

ICM have already been very open with the media, they have interviewed for AVN amongst others, they don't have anything to hide.

Matt M · 07-19-2005, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Cains

Do you have any proof to back this up or are you just going to keep making wild accusations?

So anyone who disagees with your opinion is somehow part of a grand conspiracy theory?

I do I am privy to several "backroom" deals. You really think anyone would bother if there wasnt HUGE money to be made???

Cains · 07-19-2005, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt M

I do I am privy to several "backroom" deals. You really think anyone would bother if there wasnt HUGE money to be made???

Of course there is money to be made, this is what the internet is for!

So, care to share these backroom deals or are they just fodder for conspiracy theorists?

The Other Steve · 07-19-2005, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Cains

ICM have already been very open with the media, they have interviewed for AVN amongst others, they don't have anything to hide.

Nothing to hide except very flawed arguements.

Actually your response to Mike's statement disappointed me. Up until now you have argued your point of view with reason and well chosen words.

To try and dismiss and label someone who has far more insight into this industry than you might as believing in some sort of grand conspiracy shows that you're beginning to go the same way as our dearly retarded friend.

If you can't beat them with logic then dismiss them with loonie labels.

Matt M · 07-19-2005, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Cains

Of course there is money to be made, this is what the internet is for!

So, care to share these backroom deals or are they just fodder for conspiracy theorists?

they are made of the same "fodder" as is the .XXX TLD is for kids....

Matt M · 07-19-2005, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by The Other Steve

Nothing to hide except very flawed arguements.

Actually your response to Mike's statement disappointed me. Up until now you have argued your point of view with reason and well chosen words.

To try and dismiss and label someone who has far more insight into this industry than you might as believing in some sort of grand conspiracy shows that you're beginning to go the same way as our dearly retarded friend.

If you can't beat them with logic then dismiss them with loonie labels.

Yep let the name calling commence....

Cains · 07-19-2005, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by The Other Steve

Nothing to hide except very flawed arguements.

Actually your response to Mike's statement disappointed me. Up until now you have argued your point of view with reason and well chosen words.

To try and dismiss and label someone who has far more insight into this industry than you might as believing in some sort of grand conspiracy shows that you're beginning to go the same way as our dearly retarded friend.

If you can't beat them with logic then dismiss them with loonie labels.

If someone is privy to hidden information, but is unwilling to share it, it makes me wonder just why they are hiding it when it would support their argument

The Other Steve · 07-19-2005, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Cains

If someone is privy to hidden information, but is unwilling to share it, it makes me wonder just why they are hiding it when it would support their argument

How long have you been in this business?

Matt M · 07-19-2005, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Cains

If someone is privy to hidden information, but is unwilling to share it, it makes me wonder just why they are hiding it when it would support their argument

I have shared it. just not on a public message board. Doing this would only make me a target. Do I need to spell it out for you really???

The Other Steve · 07-19-2005, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt M

I have shared it. just not on a public message board. Doing this would only make me a target. Do I need to spell it out for you really???

Thanks Matt - you said it succinctly - for once I was lost for words.

07-19-2005, 03:19 PM	#1
MikeHawk Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: In bed with Harley Girl....Not sleepin Posts: 6,683	RE: .XXX and other stupid things... Well, I just got a call that I am not speaking on the .XXX panel. That is ok I guess cause when I first started posting about all this bullshit, about .XXX I spoke to the group fighting this, and what is shocking to me is this: 1. Why has the FSC not issued a letter directly to ICANN saying they are 100% not for this ? 2. Why didn?t Larry Flynt come out against this clear blow against freedom of speech? 3. Why is everyone so afraid or unable to just do something to say they are against this deal? Simple letters to ICANN saying they are opposed to the idea. 4. Not one single letter on behalf of anyone I have spoken to about this .XXX has been recorded to the ICANN group that I am aware of. So according to them we are all for this 60 dollar domain take over our internet and move us to the Ghetto deal. Last but not least, I am going to sit in front of the room and ask the owner and Jason of this .XXX why they would use children to clearly make this huge business deal. I don?t get it? If it?s so great then why not just say "hey it?s a new domain, blah blah blah, but the using of our children to sell some business idea just makes me want to throw up. Don?t get me wrong I am all for good business this is not, they will make millions of dollars and then there is the issues of all our domains personally be swiped by whom ever, then the Govt showing great interest in this leading me to believe that the control of our industry is near a danger point indeed. I have blasted on the boards and made phone calls, and gone out on a limb on this, those who said they would do something clearly have not, so I am now going to concentrate on the business at hand with Smashbucks, we have so much great stuff coming out, it?s sick. __________________ THE AMBUSH INTERVIEW

07-19-2005, 03:24 PM	#2
AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE best designer on GFY Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: IALIEN.COM - High Definition Video and Photographic Productions -ICQ 78943384 Posts: 30,307	Kinda sucks doesnt it Mike? I am telling ya why... The industry needs regulation and the legit companies in this industry know it and they are tired of dealing with scammers and competing with companies that go below the letter of the law in many facets from abusive spam practice to Unsolicited advertising to giving porn to kids via TGP's. Not to mention the loss of content value accross the board. The small people will die out and thats a good thing in my book. I do not want them and I guess alot of other companies realise this to. __________________ NAKED HOSTING FTW!11 I'm On The INSANE PLAN $9.95/mo! \| The Alien Blog Adult News Worth Reading Updated Daily \| Content For Sale! 641 PICS 216 MINUTES OF VIDEO $350.00 \|ICQ: 78943384 \|

07-19-2005, 03:26 PM	#3
AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE best designer on GFY Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: IALIEN.COM - High Definition Video and Photographic Productions -ICQ 78943384 Posts: 30,307	The legit webmasters out there will embrace .XXX in the long run. Bank on it. __________________ NAKED HOSTING FTW!11 I'm On The INSANE PLAN $9.95/mo! \| The Alien Blog Adult News Worth Reading Updated Daily \| Content For Sale! 641 PICS 216 MINUTES OF VIDEO $350.00 \|ICQ: 78943384 \|

07-19-2005, 03:26 PM	#4
Hardlinks Confirmed User Join Date: May 2005 Location: Great White North Posts: 1,333	Im sorry Mike but i have to show you this. http://www.big-boys.com/articles/mikehawk.html Hope it spices up your day atleast a little bit. People need to act on what you have said not just talk the talk. __________________ Find out how I make Fabulous Cash !!

07-19-2005, 03:29 PM	#7
Matt M Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The Beach Posts: 738	Damn Mike!!! that really sucks. You would have been perfect for the panal. I am very disappointed. Sorry to hear this for sure. Like we both new though, there is some very players involved in this, and they willprotect there interests at any cost.... __________________ No Thanks, I have my own...... ICQ: 156837862

07-19-2005, 03:30 PM	#8
AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE best designer on GFY Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: IALIEN.COM - High Definition Video and Photographic Productions -ICQ 78943384 Posts: 30,307	Its not a crime to capitalise on opportunity. Welcome to capitalism. This particular aspect of capitlism is much needed. This industry is burning at both ends. Its a good time to cut the losses and recover as a legitamate industry in not only the USA, but the world. I seen the structures IFFOR is scoring out, it looks good to me in some ways. though I wish the Non Profits that defend our industry would get with the ball game. They know it makes perfect sense and the denial sucks. __________________ NAKED HOSTING FTW!11 I'm On The INSANE PLAN $9.95/mo! \| The Alien Blog Adult News Worth Reading Updated Daily \| Content For Sale! 641 PICS 216 MINUTES OF VIDEO $350.00 \|ICQ: 78943384 \|

07-19-2005, 03:37 PM	#10
Harley Girl Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: I Love MikeHawk! Posts: 864	sorry to hear that Mike... __________________ SMASHBUCKS Paying webmasters on-time, every-time since 2001! ICQ: 236075443

07-19-2005, 03:39 PM	#11
Cains Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 407	.XXX is a positive thing in my book and I'm all for it. If you feel threatened by any future implications (which I do not feel will happen) of .XXX I would suggest you take them up with the relevant authority (ie, the US government) rather than the ICM Registry. For parents, .XXX is a positive and it is a good selling point. Please explain to me how .XXX will have a negative impact on children

07-19-2005, 03:42 PM	#12
AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE best designer on GFY Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: IALIEN.COM - High Definition Video and Photographic Productions -ICQ 78943384 Posts: 30,307	PS: Mike I really like you man I really do and I very much enjoy'd debating the topic with you and others. SmashBucks is a great program, your a great leader for it and my hats will always go off to you for patience and a serious "Go get em" attitude. Seriously your one of the greats that have alot of concern for this industry I respect that alot and I can not express that hardly enough. __________________ NAKED HOSTING FTW!11 I'm On The INSANE PLAN $9.95/mo! \| The Alien Blog Adult News Worth Reading Updated Daily \| Content For Sale! 641 PICS 216 MINUTES OF VIDEO $350.00 \|ICQ: 78943384 \|

07-19-2005, 04:11 PM	#29
The Other Steve Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Sunny Queensland - perfect one day and better the next. Posts: 2,106	Of course you've been kicked off the panel Mike - you can't have a discussion when there's someone on the panel that might disagree with the guys who have the money and the power. It wouldn't surprise me if your place hasn't already been filled by AlienQ. Speaking of whom, dear God I wish there was someway to filter out his drivel from the quotes. Having him and his inane prattlings filtered bu the ignore feature is wonderful but then we get it served up to us when someone quotes him. He's not a webmaster and he's not even much of a designer so why the fuck he's even here sure beats me. __________________ Left intentionally blank ... just like my brain

07-19-2005, 04:15 PM	#33
AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE best designer on GFY Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: IALIEN.COM - High Definition Video and Photographic Productions -ICQ 78943384 Posts: 30,307	That Sin Tax thing happens all the time. It wont go through. Quit scaring the children. __________________ NAKED HOSTING FTW!11 I'm On The INSANE PLAN $9.95/mo! \| The Alien Blog Adult News Worth Reading Updated Daily \| Content For Sale! 641 PICS 216 MINUTES OF VIDEO $350.00 \|ICQ: 78943384 \|

07-19-2005, 04:21 PM	#35
Jman Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Canuckstikan Posts: 22,769	You did what you could Mike. I appreciate a guy like you ;-) __________________ email: [email protected] Best AI Affiliate Program We also do WL at $0.00 upfront costs FantasyXXX.AI Teams: jean.francois.laverdiere TG: @jman1216

07-19-2005, 04:26 PM	#36
mikesouth Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: My High Horse Posts: 6,334	Once again Alien obfuscates this and spins it away from the real issue...Mike you answered your own question you were scratched from the panel because you see this for the money grab that it is by ICMR and you see the potential damage that will befall this industry.... Theres a rat someplace....what are they gonna do nix Conner next and fill the panel with scoundrels likes Walters and Picconalli who would trample a thousand babies in an effort to steal a dollar from their mothers? I only wish I was gonna be there I hope someone will have the balls to speak for me __________________ Mike South It's No wonder I took up drugs and alcohol, it's the only way I could dumb myself down enough to cope with the morons in this biz.

07-19-2005, 04:39 PM	#38
AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE best designer on GFY Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: IALIEN.COM - High Definition Video and Photographic Productions -ICQ 78943384 Posts: 30,307	I love it when people think I am on the .XXX payroll. I wish I was, I really do! __________________ NAKED HOSTING FTW!11 I'm On The INSANE PLAN $9.95/mo! \| The Alien Blog Adult News Worth Reading Updated Daily \| Content For Sale! 641 PICS 216 MINUTES OF VIDEO $350.00 \|ICQ: 78943384 \|