gettin my cam traffic to buy these 25 dollar tokens vs 1-3$ trials is impossible - GoFuckYourself.com

brand0n · 07-18-2005, 01:25 PM

ive tried and tried and they just wont go for it.

if they dont buy that token, then i dont get paid.

fucking sucks balls.

WiredGuy · 07-18-2005, 01:27 PM

I have a similiar situation, I'll stick with iFriends. Let them worry about upselling the surfer, not my issue to deal with.
WG

Atticus · 07-18-2005, 01:38 PM

nice thing about the $25 is that normally the pps is lots higher. Depends on your traffic, if they are looking for a cam show they know that they have to pay $25 anyway so the $25 converts.

Always a good idea to have to options so that the free based traffic can be sent to a place like clickcash or epic.

brand0n · 07-18-2005, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Atticus

nice thing about the $25 is that normally the pps is lots higher. Depends on your traffic, if they are looking for a cam show they know that they have to pay $25 anyway so the $25 converts.

Always a good idea to have to options so that the free based traffic can be sent to a place like clickcash or epic.

i know what you are saying, but the math still isnt workin out

ok, lets say that i send 100 surfers to program a with 1-3 dollar joins that pays 20-40 dollar a join. ill get 10 joins. 200-400 bucks made.

if i send the same 100 surfers to program b with the 25 dollar upsales, I have to get 3 or 4 of them to buy 25 dollar tokens for me to make the same money.

WG I cant stand to send any more traffic to Ifreinds. The support is laughable at best, and im one of the guys that belives they are kinda on the fishy side.

Webcam Guru · 07-18-2005, 02:36 PM

I guess that you guys already know that there's an alternative to ifriends paying $35 to $40 per free lifetime join and converting better with great support!?

WiredGuy · 07-18-2005, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by brand0n

WG I cant stand to send any more traffic to Ifreinds. The support is laughable at best, and im one of the guys that belives they are kinda on the fishy side.

I hate their support with a passion but as long as they convert and send the checks, I'll keep sending.
WG

chadglni · 07-18-2005, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by WiredGuy

I hate their support with a passion but as long as they convert and send the checks, I'll keep sending.
WG

Amen brotha. I've seen payouts tweaked 142 ways on other sites but bottom line, the check is always bigger at Ifriends!

Atticus · 07-18-2005, 02:39 PM

Well, the key is to get those 100 people to buy the $25. I firmly believe there is two types of cam traffic. The ones that are just looking to fuck around and you might be able to talk them into a camshow for free and then the surfers that are looking to spend $$ and know they have to and will spend the $25. I think the $25 surfers are more profitable in the long run if you just focus your marketing to those customers. Easier said then done however. lol

brand0n · 07-18-2005, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Webcam Guru

I guess that you guys already know that there's an alternative to ifriends paying $35 to $40 per free lifetime join and converting better with great support!?

Yes, im currently making 40 a join with 1 dollar joins to epiccams. Converting with them right at 1:10 with my cam traffic.

I just figured id give these other guys a try, I mean they are offering so much I figured id give them a shot.

Youve got a good point WG but im pretty sure im on there "pay no fucking mind" list, and i think once you are there its impossible to get off.

poisson · 07-18-2005, 02:50 PM

Stop being left overs and go with G3X

sickkittens · 07-18-2005, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by brand0n

Yes, im currently making 40 a join with 1 dollar joins to epiccams. Converting with them right at 1:10 with my cam traffic.

I just figured id give these other guys a try, I mean they are offering so much I figured id give them a shot.

Youve got a good point WG but im pretty sure im on there "pay no fucking mind" list, and i think once you are there its impossible to get off.

1:10? Is that w/ top SE listing traffic?

brand0n · 07-18-2005, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by sickkittens

1:10? Is that w/ top SE listing traffic?

heavy filtered traffic. by the time my surfer hits the join page they have been told over and over that to see anything worth a damn its going to cost.

i call it "truth in marketing" and its working out pretty good.

sure, i dont get the hits that i used to see (i was 1:300-400) but the hits i get are aware that they are going to break out a cc if they want in on the goods.

Webcam Guru · 07-18-2005, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by brand0n

Yes, im currently making 40 a join with 1 dollar joins to epiccams. Converting with them right at 1:10 with my cam traffic.

Did you try that traffic with G3X?

brand0n · 07-18-2005, 03:13 PM

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Did you try that traffic with G3X?

not yet. im still working with Cory on the details of that.

i dont think that my traffic will go for the free joins though honestly. it seems 2 good to be true.

WiredGuy · 07-18-2005, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by brand0n

Youve got a good point WG but im pretty sure im on there "pay no fucking mind" list, and i think once you are there its impossible to get off.

Everyone except will76 seems to be on this list, I'm no different, I get the silent treatment too, lol.
WG

Webcam Guru · 07-18-2005, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by brand0n

not yet. im still working with Cory on the details of that.

i dont think that my traffic will go for the free joins though honestly. it seems 2 good to be true.

Well I make MUCH more with G3X using the same traffic and marketing I tried with epiccams if that can help you to believe.

WiredGuy · 07-18-2005, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by brand0n

i dont think that my traffic will go for the free joins though honestly. it seems 2 good to be true.

Tell your surfers there's a $1 processing fee. I know there isn't but it might make them more secure about buying. I know the mentality of surfers you're marketing to, I've had the same problem before. They just don't believe anything is free anymore.

WG

Atticus · 07-18-2005, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by WiredGuy

Everyone except will76 seems to be on this list, I'm no different, I get the silent treatment too, lol.
WG

I am also on said shit list.

chadglni · 07-18-2005, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Webcam Guru

Well I make MUCH more with G3X using the same traffic and marketing I tried with epiccams if that can help you to believe.

Shit I would hope so. Just compare the payouts. Epic can't convert my traffic even though the same pages / models to mtree can. I'd guess a processor issue.

brand0n · 07-18-2005, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by chadglni

Shit I would hope so. Just compare the payouts. Epic can't convert my traffic even though the same pages / models to mtree can. I'd guess a processor issue.

I dont have those problems. Epic converts great for me for some reason.

Thats why I figured the other brands would do the same, or atleast close 2 it.

I was gonna gear up and try and take that car, but it dont look like its going to happen.

I guess ill stick with epic. Thanks trey, you rock.

Webcam Guru · 07-18-2005, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by brand0n

I dont have those problems. Epic converts great for me for some reason.

Thats why I figured the other brands would do the same, or atleast close 2 it.

I was gonna gear up and try and take that car, but it dont look like its going to happen.

I guess ill stick with epic. Thanks trey, you rock.

Is Trey your brother or something?

nofx · 07-18-2005, 04:03 PM

epiccams works great with the $1 trial or free trial

converts like hotcakes in a line of homeless people

brand0n · 07-18-2005, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Webcam Guru

Is Trey your brother or something?

No lol. Me and him just started to get along.

It was kinda a dare me sending traffic 2 his program. We used to bump heads alot, then I told him look, Ill prove to you that I have traffic, and that my shit converts (as for some reason he thought i was someone without marketing skills or traffic)

I sent him a days worth of traffic and we both where impressed with the results.
Fuck, hard not to be with 1:10/20 ratios.
Ive been sending 5-10 joins a day ever since.

myjah · 07-18-2005, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by brand0n

No lol. Me and him just started to get along.

It was kinda a dare me sending traffic 2 his program. We used to bump heads alot, then I told him look, Ill prove to you that I have traffic, and that my shit converts (as for some reason he thought i was someone without marketing skills or traffic)

I sent him a days worth of traffic and we both where impressed with the results.
Fuck, hard not to be with 1:10/20 ratios.
Ive been sending 5-10 joins a day ever since.

Your cam traffic should be going to AAC.

I know, I know, we've already had this discussion.

katiepants · 07-19-2005, 03:12 AM

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I guess that you guys already know that there's an alternative to ifriends paying $35 to $40 per free lifetime join and converting better with great support!?

I assume you're talking about G3X. They rock. I'm doing so well with their cam program. Clickcash was my biggest cam sponsor for 4 years until G3X came along and took out the title.

budz · 07-19-2005, 03:22 AM

clickcash rocks

no one else can convert nearly as good,.. for me anyways

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Atticus Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 1,051	nice thing about the $25 is that normally the pps is lots higher. Depends on your traffic, if they are looking for a cam show they know that they have to pay $25 anyway so the $25 converts. Always a good idea to have to options so that the free based traffic can be sent to a place like clickcash or epic.

07-18-2005, 02:39 PM	#8
Atticus Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 1,051	Well, the key is to get those 100 people to buy the $25. I firmly believe there is two types of cam traffic. The ones that are just looking to fuck around and you might be able to talk them into a camshow for free and then the surfers that are looking to spend $$ and know they have to and will spend the $25. I think the $25 surfers are more profitable in the long run if you just focus your marketing to those customers. Easier said then done however. lol

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budz Disruptive Innovator Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Vegas Posts: 4,230	clickcash rocks no one else can convert nearly as good,.. for me anyways __________________ C:\Code\ C:\Code\Run\