gettin my cam traffic to buy these 25 dollar tokens vs 1-3$ trials is impossible
 

ive tried and tried and they just wont go for it.

if they dont buy that token, then i dont get paid.

fucking sucks balls.

I have a similiar situation, I'll stick with iFriends. Let them worry about upselling the surfer, not my issue to deal with.
WG

nice thing about the $25 is that normally the pps is lots higher. Depends on your traffic, if they are looking for a cam show they know that they have to pay $25 anyway so the $25 converts.

Always a good idea to have to options so that the free based traffic can be sent to a place like clickcash or epic.

i know what you are saying, but the math still isnt workin out

ok, lets say that i send 100 surfers to program a with 1-3 dollar joins that pays 20-40 dollar a join. ill get 10 joins. 200-400 bucks made.


if i send the same 100 surfers to program b with the 25 dollar upsales, I have to get 3 or 4 of them to buy 25 dollar tokens for me to make the same money.

WG I cant stand to send any more traffic to Ifreinds. The support is laughable at best, and im one of the guys that belives they are kinda on the fishy side.

I guess that you guys already know that there's an alternative to ifriends paying $35 to $40 per free lifetime join and converting better with great support!?

I hate their support with a passion but as long as they convert and send the checks, I'll keep sending.
WG

Amen brotha. I've seen payouts tweaked 142 ways on other sites but bottom line, the check is always bigger at Ifriends!

Well, the key is to get those 100 people to buy the $25. I firmly believe there is two types of cam traffic. The ones that are just looking to fuck around and you might be able to talk them into a camshow for free and then the surfers that are looking to spend $$ and know they have to and will spend the $25. I think the $25 surfers are more profitable in the long run if you just focus your marketing to those customers. Easier said then done however. lol

Yes, im currently making 40 a join with 1 dollar joins to epiccams. Converting with them right at 1:10 with my cam traffic.

I just figured id give these other guys a try, I mean they are offering so much I figured id give them a shot.

Youve got a good point WG but im pretty sure im on there "pay no fucking mind" list, and i think once you are there its impossible to get off.

Stop being left overs and go with G3X

1:10? Is that w/ top SE listing traffic?

heavy filtered traffic. by the time my surfer hits the join page they have been told over and over that to see anything worth a damn its going to cost.

i call it "truth in marketing" and its working out pretty good.

sure, i dont get the hits that i used to see (i was 1:300-400) but the hits i get are aware that they are going to break out a cc if they want in on the goods.

Did you try that traffic with G3X?

not yet. im still working with Cory on the details of that.

i dont think that my traffic will go for the free joins though honestly. it seems 2 good to be true.

Everyone except will76 seems to be on this list, I'm no different, I get the silent treatment too, lol.
WG

Well I make MUCH more with G3X using the same traffic and marketing I tried with epiccams if that can help you to believe.

Tell your surfers there's a $1 processing fee. I know there isn't but it might make them more secure about buying. I know the mentality of surfers you're marketing to, I've had the same problem before. They just don't believe anything is free anymore.

WG

I am also on said shit list.

Shit I would hope so. Just compare the payouts. Epic can't convert my traffic even though the same pages / models to mtree can. I'd guess a processor issue.

I dont have those problems. Epic converts great for me for some reason.

Thats why I figured the other brands would do the same, or atleast close 2 it.

I was gonna gear up and try and take that car, but it dont look like its going to happen.

I guess ill stick with epic. Thanks trey, you rock.

Is Trey your brother or something?

epiccams works great with the $1 trial or free trial

converts like hotcakes in a line of homeless people

No lol. Me and him just started to get along.

It was kinda a dare me sending traffic 2 his program. We used to bump heads alot, then I told him look, Ill prove to you that I have traffic, and that my shit converts (as for some reason he thought i was someone without marketing skills or traffic)

I sent him a days worth of traffic and we both where impressed with the results.
Fuck, hard not to be with 1:10/20 ratios.
Ive been sending 5-10 joins a day ever since.

Your cam traffic should be going to AAC. :frenchman I know, I know, we've already had this discussion.

I assume you're talking about G3X. They rock. I'm doing so well with their cam program. Clickcash was my biggest cam sponsor for 4 years until G3X came along and took out the title.

clickcash rocks

no one else can convert nearly as good,.. for me anyways