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Old 07-15-2005, 05:33 PM   #1
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What's a link worth on a PR5 site?

Set aside traffic, just for PR reasons. What would you pay? Listed near the top or a spot in the Top trading list? Thinking about selling links or is it a waste of time now since many think PR has little to do with SERPs.
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Old 07-15-2005, 05:36 PM   #2
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i dunno, but almost every one of my sites is a PR4

is it that much harder to move to a 5? just wondering...
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Old 07-15-2005, 05:37 PM   #3
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i dunno, but almost every one of my sites is a PR4

is it that much harder to move to a 5? just wondering...
it very much is exponentially harder for each step
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Old 07-15-2005, 05:44 PM   #4
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One would assume it is better, but at PR4, ya get crawled often enough. Just got the PR5 back, so I'll have to find out. Can tell ya PR4 beats the hell out of PR3 though. More attention from google.

Maybe WG will comment?
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Old 07-15-2005, 05:46 PM   #5
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it very much is exponentially harder for each step

There are other PR5s. Now if I can grasp that PR6, I'll have some Q factor, even if it's in my own mind!!
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Old 07-15-2005, 05:47 PM   #6
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Sleazy is a pr4 and so is Shemp. I know Shemp's sites used to be PR5s (maybe some are yet - didn't check 'em all). I can tell ya that both have more traffic and sales than I do.
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One would assume it is better, but at PR4, ya get crawled often enough. Just got the PR5 back, so I'll have to find out. Can tell ya PR4 beats the hell out of PR3 though. More attention from google.

Maybe WG will comment?
that sounds good for sure... i just noticed this week that WildWestCash is now a PR4, ExtremeHolly is a PR4 (the tour1.html page), my old TGP SlinkyLinks is a PR4 (index1.html) and BlowjobRaces is a PR3...

i musta done something right
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Old 07-15-2005, 05:49 PM   #8
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Fuck!!! Just checked thehun.net! A PR4!
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There are other PR5s. Now if I can grasp that PR6, I'll have some Q factor, even if it's in my own mind!!
Aim for an authority site status in this industry... Make it relevant to a hugely generic SE term ( sex or xxx ) and then come on here asking :P You will get much different reaction

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Old 07-15-2005, 05:51 PM   #10
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Fuck!!! Just checked thehun.net! A PR4!
you really have no clue about PR do you ?
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Fuck!!! Just checked thehun.net! A PR4!
crazy... and i know for a fact that site gets more traffic than SlinkyLinks!

here's a whacky challenge... what's the highest PR site someone has that's getting the tiniest amount of traffic? LMFAO
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Old 07-15-2005, 05:53 PM   #12
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crazy... and i know for a fact that site gets more traffic than SlinkyLinks!

here's a whacky challenge... what's the highest PR site someone has that's getting the tiniest amount of traffic? LMFAO
PR is not at all related to traffic levels
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Old 07-15-2005, 05:54 PM   #13
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You mean a hardlink?..if it's just for pr ,I give them away for free..nobody should charge for a pr link exchange
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Old 07-15-2005, 05:54 PM   #14
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PR should only be used as an indicatore to how often a sites is indexed - it have nothing to do with SE placement (well - almost nothing) I have pr4 sites that get listed higher than pr7. Everything above PR4 is good.

as soon as you go PR5 and abowe, you should set the metatag to how often you would like to be indexed - or else you will get hammered with spiders and bots = slow site

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Old 07-15-2005, 05:56 PM   #15
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Fuck!!! Just checked thehun.net! A PR4!
no..no...no
check not thehun.net (pr4), but www.thehun.net (pr5)
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Old 07-15-2005, 05:57 PM   #16
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btw... it seems to me but there is no any free adult sites with PR more than 5
If you know such one, tell please!
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Old 07-15-2005, 05:57 PM   #17
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PR(A) = (1-d) + d(PR(t1)/C(t1) + ... + PR(tn)/C(tn))

While we are not certain if this formula is still the one used by Google, it is probably at least very similar.

In the formula, PR(A) is the PageRank of the page = (1- d) where d is a "damping factor considered to be about 0.85 + d(PR(t1) where t1 is the PR of the incoming link page + ...+ PR (tn) is the Page Rank of all of the linking pages. Each page is divided by C which is the number of outgoing links from each page.
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Old 07-15-2005, 05:59 PM   #18
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lots of clueless people here in regards to PR, I got 3 domains PR0 and get 2-3k uniques a day from SE's
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Old 07-15-2005, 06:00 PM   #19
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pr is not really important
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Old 07-15-2005, 06:01 PM   #20
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you really have no clue about PR do you ?
I have some, how do you think I got there. I do not claim to be a guru at all though. I've spent some time on the SEO sites. If you're calling me a dumb fuck. Well I'd just agree with ya. Cause my conversion ratios are not at all where they should be......

Actually if you want to be a PR5 or PR6 and set that as your goal. Just a matter of time before you get there. The obvious, that's not the whole game. Some respect and are impressed that ya make it to a PR5. And the PR4 and above does count for google attention. If you don't believe that, then you're the one that needs the clue.

A ton of pay sites really booking bank with zip for PR. The obvious, there is more than one way to traffic besides the SEs.
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no..no...no
check not thehun.net (pr4), but www.thehun.net (pr5)
point taken - now its me and thehun + the www!!!!
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Old 07-15-2005, 06:03 PM   #22
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Btw.. here is awesome tool that will show you future PR
http://www.seochat.com/seo-tools/future-pagerank/
you will see Google data centers IP adresses and what do they think about your site (page) ...
Use it!
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lots of clueless people here in regards to PR, I got 3 domains PR0 and get 2-3k uniques a day from SE's

yep - very doable, but I believe the PR helps.
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pr is not really important
SO you dont want me to push 50-60 pr to one of your sites with a batch of nicely anchored generic keyword links?

I think you would be quite surprised at the results.

PR isnt everything, you are right about that, but if you know how to use it properly and understand how it can benefit you, it is very important in the big scheme.
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yep - very doable, but I believe the PR helps.
It will help you greatly only if you know how to use it...
Try to surf http://www.searchengines.com ... very useful site for green guys who want know everything about SE Optimization...
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There are a lot of factors in the price besides the PR. Factor in how many external links are on the page, where the links are on the page (top, bottom, etc), whether the links are in a list or within a paragraph of text, and finally if the site is relevant or not.

If it's a PR5, has less than 10 external links, is not too far down on the page, and on-topic to a site, it can be very valuable.
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I think PR is way overrated.

It took the site in my sig 2 months to get to PR 4. But i'm sure there are lots of PR 0 sites that get way more traffic
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Aim for an authority site status in this industry... Make it relevant to a hugely generic SE term ( sex or xxx ) and then come on here asking :P You will get much different reaction

That's more than I want to talk about.... I have my keyword / phrase targets and happy with progress though.
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I think PR is way overrated.

It took the site in my sig 2 months to get to PR 4. But i'm sure there are lots of PR 0 sites that get way more traffic
I think all of Chokers sites are PR0s now (a google ban for the obvious) and look at his traffic.
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The point of all this was to see if anyone thought there was any value in a PR5 backlink. Idea = I get the opportunity to make a few . From the conversation here, it's not worth makling the post to sell the spots unless I have a few hundred K of traffic to go with it.
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There are a lot of factors in the price besides the PR. Factor in how many external links are on the page, where the links are on the page (top, bottom, etc), whether the links are in a list or within a paragraph of text, and finally if the site is relevant or not.

If it's a PR5, has less than 10 external links, is not too far down on the page, and on-topic to a site, it can be very valuable.

Must be Relevant!!!! Don't want to ruin the PR!
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We have a pr4 that gets 10k a day - pure SE spam, and a pr7 pure SE spam that gets 1500 a day with similar effort. Understanding why it is so is what makes a good SE spammer.

One link from a pr5 is worth close to nada, nothing, zero, unless it's part of a bigger picture.
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Btw.. here is awesome tool that will show you future PR
http://www.seochat.com/seo-tools/future-pagerank/
you will see Google data centers IP adresses and what do they think about your site (page) ...
Use it!
Nice tool, thanks for sharing.
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lots of clueless people here in regards to PR, I got 3 domains PR0 and get 2-3k uniques a day from SE's
hmmmm... maybe you are the clueless one
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