Mxdevelopment ripped me off - this is your warning not to do biz with them

[Snake Doctor]

On 6/17 I hired Mxdevelopment to write some 2257 software for me.

We already had a SQL database in place and just needed some modifications made and the ability to export everything into a local access database.

I paid them a $280 deposit on the project, the total cost was to be $400.

They PROMISED they would have it done for me no later than June 23....which we all know was the deadline for 2257 compliance.

Since I sent the $$ I haven't heard a word from them....no response to my ICQ or emails....nothing.
I just filed a dispute with paypal to try and get my money back.

Thankfully we are compliant with 2257, but it's kind of a mess. We have a spreadsheet and a couple of disks with digital records and a file cabinet with paper records....I just wanted the modifications so everything would be nice and neat in one local database that had EVERYTHING we needed.
Thank God I didn't need their work to be finished in order to be compliant and then end up being investigated....I would have been royally fucked.

Anyways, this is your warning not to do business with these guys. They KNEW the deadline for 2257 was June 23 and assured me they would have it done before then....and then disappeared with my cash.

[Sosa]

fucking scammers

[Jace]

and as we all know on gfy, YOUR word is golden

LOL, right

i would have to hear their side of it before ever listening to what you have to say

sucks when you whine SO FUCKING MUCH no one listens when you have somethin that might be good to say....

[Digibucks]

there are always 2 sides of the story

[Snake Doctor]

Originally Posted by JaceXXX

and as we all know on gfy, YOUR word is golden

LOL, right

i would have to hear their side of it before ever listening to what you have to say

sucks when you whine SO FUCKING MUCH no one listens when you have somethin that might be good to say....

Calling someone a dick is stating my opinion. Everything I posted above is FACT.

Personally I don't give a shit if you believe me or not. Go pay them to write you some software and watch them disappear......I won't lose any sleep over it.

[Snake Doctor]

Originally Posted by JaceXXX

and as we all know on gfy, YOUR word is golden

LOL, right

i would have to hear their side of it before ever listening to what you have to say

You know what....FUCK YOU

Show me where I've ever lied here.

As I said before....calling someone a dick or an asshole is an "opinion", and I'm entitled to mine the same as everyone else.

I've never accused anyone of doing anything unethical without the proof to back it up.

[sextoyking]

This is the 2nd time I have seen a complaint about this company in I think 2 or so months....

hmmmm

[Vlad]

nail those fuckers ! ;/

[GenX Law]

Originally Posted by Lenny2

On 6/17 I hired Mxdevelopment to write some 2257 software for me.

We already had a SQL database in place and just needed some modifications made and the ability to export everything into a local access database.

I paid them a $280 deposit on the project, the total cost was to be $400.

They PROMISED they would have it done for me no later than June 23....which we all know was the deadline for 2257 compliance.

Since I sent the $$ I haven't heard a word from them....no response to my ICQ or emails....nothing.
I just filed a dispute with paypal to try and get my money back.

Thankfully we are compliant with 2257, but it's kind of a mess. We have a spreadsheet and a couple of disks with digital records and a file cabinet with paper records....I just wanted the modifications so everything would be nice and neat in one local database that had EVERYTHING we needed.
Thank God I didn't need their work to be finished in order to be compliant and then end up being investigated....I would have been royally fucked.

Anyways, this is your warning not to do business with these guys. They KNEW the deadline for 2257 was June 23 and assured me they would have it done before then....and then disappeared with my cash.

This IS the second side of the story!! Lenny you are absolutely right you were scammed, and so were many others - including us.

Mxdevelopment has an exclusive contract with us. Let me print it to you word for word for anyone that will be reading this.

Contract signed and dated: August 2004

4. CONTRACTOR (mxdevelopment) agrees not to resell, redistribute, reduplicate, or re-license the source code to another party after COMPANY (GenX law) has received the product.

5. CONTRACTOR also agrees not to make any similar 2257 registration software to compete with COMPANY, or sell to another customer after COMPANY has recieved the product.
(***so their sell to you, Lenny, was indeed a breach of this contract)

Mxdevelopment was rewriting the program due to the final regulation as well as in another user friendly language and we were also promised that it would be ready pre: June 23rd. We have also not heard anything from mxdevelpment, and just found out today that they have been selling our product to others in violation of the contract.

I know this really sucks Lenny, but hopefully at least you can get your money back from paypal, we on the other hand are out a lot more money than $400 and we dont have paypal as a resort to cover our expenses.

Buyers beware.

Lenny, feel free to contact me if you want to discuss this further.

[FilthyRob]

Well that sucks for you. Thanks for the warning!

[Theo]

ouch
shitty period this to happen

[Herb Kornfield]

MxDevelopment also has a habbit of not paying people that DID work for them. Just ignoring them will make it all go away is Chris' mindset.

Anyone dealing with Mx -- Be warned that your money is as good as gone. Dont expect product or a deadline to be met. The kid that owns it works on his timeframes, not yours.... all you are doing is paying for him to go out and party while you watch deadlines pass....

Chris I know that you are reading this since you love to lurk... Im glad to see your shit come back to haunt you just like I said it would faggot.

[RogerV]

Sorry to hear that it sucks getting fucked over for money

[DamageX]

Originally Posted by Digibucks

there are always 2 sides of the story

Wasn't that three sides, his, theirs and the truth?

[GenX Law]

Originally Posted by DamageX

Wasn't that three sides, his, theirs and the truth?

FYI: When there are several posts evidencing a company's scam tactics- that adds up to the TRUTH.

[Sly]

I remember a lot of people having trouble with Chris last year I think it was. Customer support didn't seem to be his strength.

Good luck everyone.

[Hunter_ST]

I hate getting fucked over by someone... 'cause that means I have to fuck someone else over then, too, in order to make up for it...

[Snake Doctor]

Originally Posted by GenX Law

FYI: When there are several posts evidencing a company's scam tactics- that adds up to the TRUTH.

True that.

It looks like you got hosed alot worse than I did.....of course I'm sure you of all people know how to file a lawsuit

As for me, I guess I need to hire another programmer now.

[Chio The Pirate]

YARGH! I had a script writen too, and it be ready but for a few bugglies.
I think he'll be sellin' it too. I'll get a link if he does.

[Quickdraw]

Originally Posted by Hunter_ST

I hate getting fucked over by someone... 'cause that means I have to fuck someone else over then, too, in order to make up for it...

cmon mano, you can be the better man!
If someone does something good for you, do you repay it to someone else in the same fashion? Or does it only apply when you get scammed?

If someone stole your car, should that give you license to steal your neighbours car?

Don't feed the bad loop, learn from it and move on

[pradaboy]

I hate it when programmers/designers do not deliver

[GenX Law]

Originally Posted by Lenny2

True that.

It looks like you got hosed alot worse than I did.....of course I'm sure you of all people know how to file a lawsuit

As for me, I guess I need to hire another programmer now.

You know it! Just gathering evidence at this point. ;)
give me your icq - and I will keep you in the loop. - Did you get your money back from paypal? Feel free to forward them my post as evidence of the nature of the company, hopefully, that will help you get your money back a little faster.

[DutchTeenCash]

MXDEV is the worst, do a search here and youll see nothing but unsatisfied and unhappy customers. Including us.

[chadglni]

So what nickname is behind this company?

[Chio The Pirate]

Originally Posted by Lenny2

True that.

It looks like you got hosed alot worse than I did.....of course I'm sure you of all people know how to file a lawsuit

As for me, I guess I need to hire another programmer now.

YARGH! Lenny the solution I had written is very good. It may be released within the next day or so if you want to wait it out. It could be just what you need.

[Quickdraw]

Originally Posted by chadglni

So what nickname is behind this company?

Thomas1007

[andy83]

So sorry to hear of this. hope ppl will avoid them in future

[GenX Law]

Originally Posted by Quickdraw

Thomas1007

No, Thomas1007 is no longer with the company, along with several other ex-employees. Chrisp420 is the nickname behind this company, however, he usually doesn't post here he has some unexpecting new employee to do his dirty work.

[Thomas1007]

Originally Posted by Quickdraw

Thomas1007

WHOA! Hold the fuck up here! I am not involved with Mxdevelopment in any way shape or form. I have not done any biz for/with the company since April of this year. I too was screwed out of many hours of networking and sales work. DO Fucking NOT involve me in this shit. After speaking with several people concerning this I am also on the "got fucked " list. If you want to sling shit, ensure you are throwing it at the CORRECT Person.

[Quickdraw]

Originally Posted by GenX Law

No, Thomas1007 is no longer with the company, along with several other ex-employees. Chrisp420 is the nickname behind this company, however, he usually doesn't post here he has some unexpecting new employee to do his dirty work.

Ah, ok, I just did a quick search and his is the only name I found pushing them. Didn't see anything saying he left.

[Quickdraw]

Originally Posted by Thomas1007

WHOA! Hold the fuck up here! I am not involved with Mxdevelopment in any way shape or form. I have not done any biz for/with the company since April of this year. I too was screwed out of many hours of networking and sales work. DO Fucking NOT involve me in this shit. After speaking with several people concerning this I am also on the "got fucked " list. If you want to sling shit, ensure you are throwing it at the CORRECT Person.

See above.

Didn't know you had left, no slinging shit intended. I guess you did a good job of associating yourself with them.

[Thomas1007]

well thank you it was my job in sales to get attention to the company yes.
I assisted many people with the ongoing problems they had with the owner and programmers at mx. After way too much crap being slung at me for a cpl months because clients were not happy with timelines/deadlines not being met I left the company. I have tried to assist clients since via ICQ to find him etc because I feel bad for them getting ripped off. I have no idea where the owner is, I dont give a shit either. His BS has cost me much more than monetary gain, because of his antics and how he ran his company my name keeps coming up in this shit. To those clients that have been ripped off by him I wish you luck in your suit because he has screwed not only clients but ex-employee's as well.

[DutchTeenCash]

Oh well so that few 100 is gone I guess. Then again Im pretty sure karma takes care of this mxdev guy, you can run but you cant hide thats my 2 cents.

[SykkBoy]

Lenny and everyone else sorry to hear you got ripped

I was worried about this kind of thing when the whole 2257 thing started happening...I figured the scammers would come out to play and it looks like they have...

[Snake Doctor]

Hey GenX....my icq is 78465690

Chio, I'll definitely be hitting you up.

I just got an email from them. (I can only guess they mailed me because of the paypal dispute). Cut and paste below.


Dear Client,

You are recieving this e-mail since you have a pending project
with us. Due to unfortunate events over the past few weeks, we will be
refunding any pending projects and not accepting new ones.

Internal disagreements have resulted in our machines being taken
offline and source code removed for existing projects. We feel it is best
to refund our pending clients at this time.

We apologize for any delays in contact, any e-mails sent to our
employee's for the past 1.5 weeks have not been recieved, and cannot be
accessed.

We will be refunding clients by the end of next week (July 8th) as
we are waiting for funds to be accessable. You will be refunded via the
method
you had paid by, and we will notify before the payment is made in the case
of a non paypal, or check payment.

Thank you for your business.

[VeriSexy]

Originally Posted by pradaboy

I hate it when programmers/designers do not deliver

Me too, happened to me with a guy with very high rep on scriptlance

[DutchTeenCash]

lol being taken? so basically theyre bankrupt

[GenX Law]

Originally Posted by Lenny2

I just got an email from them. (I can only guess they mailed me because of the paypal dispute). Cut and paste below.


Dear Client,

You are recieving this e-mail since you have a pending project
with us. Due to unfortunate events over the past few weeks, we will be
refunding any pending projects and not accepting new ones.

Internal disagreements have resulted in our machines being taken
offline and source code removed for existing projects. We feel it is best
to refund our pending clients at this time.

We apologize for any delays in contact, any e-mails sent to our
employee's for the past 1.5 weeks have not been recieved, and cannot be
accessed.

We will be refunding clients by the end of next week (July 8th) as
we are waiting for funds to be accessable. You will be refunded via the
method
you had paid by, and we will notify before the payment is made in the case
of a non paypal, or check payment.

Thank you for your business.

Well,...isn't that convenient that they wanted to refund your money AFTER you filed the paypal dispute. Chris, is full of shit - I will be extremely surprised if anyone sees a refund. Mark my words - the week of July 8th he will be "missing" again and there will be another "unfortunate event" to prevent him from refunding any money, or delivering. Although I am sure the money that he has received from selling MY fucking product behind my back, will be able to cover any monies needed to refund clients. Fucking scam artist He thinks he is so slick, but he needs to beware because I certianly have a few things up my sleeve....for his ass, and pay backs are a bitch.

[Herb Kornfield]

Chris --- just borrow the money from mom or is that how you bought that new BMW 325 or the Flat Panel 42 inch TV at your place?

Maybe the cash was blown on that trip to Cancun with the wife you took.

Or was it that trip to Hawaii you took???

You dont have the money since its all gone..................... Otherwise you'd be paying today.....

[Turboface]

I find it funny that Herb Kornfield actually had the balls to post in this thread.

'Herb Kornfield', whos real name is Jim McMenamin, is the other half of Mx Development. I see him in this thread trying to distance himself from Chris, his partner in crime, but Chris doesn't post here anymore, so 'Herb' looks like the good guy.

These guys took me for almost $1300 last July. They came off like they had all this traffic of theirs that they could sell me. So, after running some tests on the traffic and seeing that it was decent, I sent them the money. Shortly thereafter, the traffic changed drastically. It went from being mostly US traffic to ALL Russian Federation traffic. I immediately told them to stop the traffic and refund my money.

After grilling the both of them, I finally got to the truth of the matter. It turned out that it was just some of their own 404 traffic that they were showing me, but after I paid them, they pulled a middleman deal and went to Ozzymosis from FastAdultTraffic for the traffic to send me. I don't know if you guys remember FastAdultTraffic, but Ozzymosis was just another one of those fly-by-night traffic resellers, who screwed a whole lot of people on here before disappearing.

Anyhow, it was like pulling teeth trying to get Herb (the 'money man') to give me my money back. Here it is a year later and he still has not returned my money to me. Herb has nickle and dimed me all this time since, just sending me just enough to show some effort, just to shut me up, but I think I have been more than patient, waiting for a year now.

Herb's reply to my last ICQ message was for me to go track down Chris for the money. It's not even a matter of the money anymore, I got almost all of it over the last year, but I just feel that people should know that Herb is not the innocent guy that he's playing here, at all.

[Snake Doctor]

Update.

I got $32 back from paypal, I guess that's all the MX guys had in their account.


Yipee

[Clicky_Bucks]

These guys are long known scammers. Stay up on current happenings. This should have been no secret to you.

[GenX Law]

Originally Posted by Lenny2

Update.

I got $32 back from paypal, I guess that's all the MX guys had in their account.


Yipee

What?? What was the $32 supposedly for? and how did they explain that they were only returning your 32 out of/400 owed to you?

Yeah, well, sooo...here is the latest with us, Chris emailed me from another account saying that his name was Rob, and that "Chris" would be out of town for month and he ("Rob") was handling my account, yeah right....and trying to explain where he has been for the past months and made excuses for why he ripped me off (around 10K and counting now), that my product is ready etc etc etc ..So I emailed him back and told him what I thought about him, and he disappeared again, no returned money, no product....fucking scamming piece of shit.

He can run but he can't hide............

[Dalai lama]

Originally Posted by Digibucks

there are always 2 sides of the story

yup

[newbreed]

OK, point of clarification for everyone else...

What are all of you selling this non-compliant system as so people know who and what?

edit - Lenny2, I can prolly help you make more back as a reseller of a COMPLIANT and popular solution. Let me know, admin|@|2257ware|.|com .

[GenX Law]

Originally Posted by newbreed

OK, point of clarification for everyone else...

What are all of you selling this non-compliant system as so people know who and what?

Huh?????

[newbreed]

Do any of you have a clue as to how many times and how may other people are selling this NON-COMPLIANT script?

[newbreed]

Originally Posted by GenX Law

Huh?????

What don't you undersatnd? The script is not-compliant and frowned upon due to the client/server model. Further, as sold to people it has NO support from the developer.

[newbreed]

Why not be honest? Client/Server applications are not acceptable by the DOJ or 2257 lawyers.

[newbreed]

For the record I think Lenny2 is a good guy who got fucked over by some greedy programmers. You all would be surprised at how many people are trying to sell this NON-COMPLIANT SCRIPT (key word SCRIPT).