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Old 07-13-2005, 08:53 AM   #1
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:stop Do you think a program that do this is professional?

I've made a constructive criticism to a sponsor and he has just deactivated my account. Would YOU trust such a sponsor?

This is what I said to him (my exact word): Can I ask you a favor? Could you try to send less e-mails to your affiliates? It's really annoying getting e-mails as often as you guys send them.

This is his reply: we just deleted you from our list

AND: Don't worry you never get anymore e-mails from us..EVER

we checked your affiliate ID...you never sent a click since Jan 05

so you're now out.
have a nice day

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Your Affiliate account has been deactivated due to click inactivity.


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Old 07-13-2005, 08:54 AM   #2
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lol why doesnt this surprise me at all, I mean ppl say I have a temper but that guy damn hehe
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Old 07-13-2005, 08:54 AM   #3
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Old 07-13-2005, 08:55 AM   #4
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There's a reason why I never sent any traffic to this sponsor. There's also a reason why I wanted to be his affiliates. But after getting this kind of response I guess I'll have to say: your loss. I'll start a thread with my stats later today.

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Old 07-13-2005, 08:56 AM   #5
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damn! thats neither nice nor professional :O
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Old 07-13-2005, 08:57 AM   #6
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I wonder if they decided to send as many affiliate emails a day as they make sites a day
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Old 07-13-2005, 09:11 AM   #7
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I wonder if they decided to send as many affiliate emails a day as they make sites a day


They send 1 e-mail every 2-3 days.

Not to mention most days they fuck up and end up sending more than 1 e-mail.
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Old 07-13-2005, 10:15 AM   #8
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I get an email from the almost daily, I too find it very annoying!
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Old 07-13-2005, 10:26 AM   #9
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I was actually wondering how many i should send out? once a week or only if I have an anouncement?
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Old 07-13-2005, 10:35 AM   #10
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That's nothing, my buddy just got dropped from a major program because he sent 2 signups on a bonus day with a 1:8 ratio. They said he was cheating. It's a sponsor he's sent nearly a hundred signups to in the last year. How the hell can you tell a person is cheating from 2 signups?!
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Old 07-13-2005, 10:44 AM   #11
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That's nothing, my buddy just got dropped from a major program because he sent 2 signups on a bonus day with a 1:8 ratio. They said he was cheating. It's a sponsor he's sent nearly a hundred signups to in the last year. How the hell can you tell a person is cheating from 2 signups?!
SicCash canned me last year after I had send a whopping 8 SU in a 3 month period and 3 charged back. They said since my chargeback ratio was over 1% my account was cancelled. Now how can you tell ANYTHING by 8 fricken sign ups? Hell ONE chargeback would have out me over the limit. I e-mailed them asking them to explain to me how it is MY fault people charged back? After all I just send them the people it's THEIR job to not over-promise and under-deliver. Then they e-mailed be back threatening to contact all the major sponsors and let them know about me and have them cancell my accounts. Funny how ARS and Pimproll and others have never had any problems with me.
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Old 07-13-2005, 10:51 AM   #12
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Based on the text you provided, that is beyond unprofessional, no matter how you look at it.

One good thing about what transpired, you now know they only care about certain web masters.

No kidding web masters get sick and tired of sponsors.
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Old 07-13-2005, 10:53 AM   #13
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SicCash canned me last year after I had send a whopping 8 SU in a 3 month period and 3 charged back. They said since my chargeback ratio was over 1% my account was cancelled. Now how can you tell ANYTHING by 8 fricken sign ups? Hell ONE chargeback would have out me over the limit. I e-mailed them asking them to explain to me how it is MY fault people charged back? After all I just send them the people it's THEIR job to not over-promise and under-deliver. Then they e-mailed be back threatening to contact all the major sponsors and let them know about me and have them cancell my accounts. Funny how ARS and Pimproll and others have never had any problems with me.
It couldn't be the $120 bucks the surfer gets charged in 3 days if he happens to miss the prechecked cross-sales?? lol
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SicCash canned me last year after I had send a whopping 8 SU in a 3 month period and 3 charged back. They said since my chargeback ratio was over 1% my account was cancelled. Now how can you tell ANYTHING by 8 fricken sign ups? Hell ONE chargeback would have out me over the limit. I e-mailed them asking them to explain to me how it is MY fault people charged back? After all I just send them the people it's THEIR job to not over-promise and under-deliver. Then they e-mailed be back threatening to contact all the major sponsors and let them know about me and have them cancell my accounts. Funny how ARS and Pimproll and others have never had any problems with me.
That's fucked up. I mean sure, you've got to make sure you're not misleading the people you refer about the site, but that's about all you can do.
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Old 07-13-2005, 10:55 AM   #15
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There's a reason why I never sent any traffic to this sponsor. There's also a reason why I wanted to be his affiliates. But after getting this kind of response I guess I'll have to say: your loss. I'll start a thread with my stats later today.


maybe its all your negative comments on gfy. if you would smarten up and stop being an asshat.
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Old 07-13-2005, 11:00 AM   #16
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that's extremely unprofessionial. I have my opinions on a couple sponsors mentioned above but i'm just keeping my mouth shut so they don't deactivate my account
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Old 07-13-2005, 11:00 AM   #17
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Old 07-13-2005, 11:02 AM   #18
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The Mac would never treat a webmaster like that. We pride ourselves on taking care of those who take care of us. We understand your importance to our program.

Hit me up and start making money with The Mac!
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That's fucked up. I mean sure, you've got to make sure you're not misleading the people you refer about the site.
No of course I wasn't. That's a stupid thing to do. If I did as soon as the surfer went to the tour he would see I was full of shit and not even sign up. Their sites weren't being too profitable for me anyways so no big deal I just thought that was bush league to threaten someone like that. Funny thing is in their cancellation letter( the first one ) they said I could sign up as an SicCash affiliate again if I wanted too. WTF is that shit?
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what a joke, anyway I'm glad to see competition (if you can even call it that) having such behavior lol
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Old 07-13-2005, 11:34 AM   #21
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I was actually wondering how many i should send out? once a week or only if I have an anouncement?
Only when there are important news to be told or else you are bound to see your mails getting ignored sooner or later
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Old 07-13-2005, 11:35 AM   #22
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I've been using BGB for a while now on one of my sites. Haven't had any problems with emails.

no hits at all since jan 05? maybe if you contacted them and said why your not sending hits for a while they would have kept it open.
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Sounds like the person that did that should have taken a deep breath before killing your account. Some people get irritated and act on impulse.
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Old 07-13-2005, 03:29 PM   #24
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Should I name that sponsor or you guys got who it is by now?
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Old 07-14-2005, 08:44 AM   #25
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good morning everybody...
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Old 07-14-2005, 08:48 AM   #26
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Go ahead and sign up for us-we are too busy answering feedback from our affiliates to mail them....lol

That's not true-the mailer responsibility keeps bouncing aorund our team like a hot potatoe!
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BadGirlsBucks definitely sends too much mail.

It's annoying.
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I was actually wondering how many i should send out? once a week or only if I have an anouncement?
Once every 2 weeks would be more than fine and make sure every email has tools to make them money such as the newest galleries and good tips on how to convert your sites.
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Old 07-14-2005, 08:59 AM   #30
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Sounds fucked up to me.
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I dont feel comfortable asking sponsors for anything much less doing business with them unless I've met the owner, affiliate manager or rep in person or at least had a positive personal referrence from someone I trust who is doing business with them. Usually seems to help eliminate much unwanted drama I think.
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Should I name that sponsor or you guys got who it is by now?
look closely, you named the sponsor in your initial post

lol

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on another board an aff posted his ccbill stats, wont copy them here but heres the idea:

2 months, all bgb sites, 7 rebills

He posted katesplayground (you know the YUMMY girl with the BIG err ok you get the idea) :

14 days (!) 73 rebills

Not just signups are wacky, rebills are hell and no I dont have anything against them, just stating facts.
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RESPONSE:

We send affiliates e-mails when...
1. WE LAUNCH A NEW SITE (Figure an affiliate would like to know that)
2. WE have new promos to offer.

If you are getting the daily e-mails,it's because-

1. You put your e-mail address in our FREE PIC e-mail on the index of all of our websites. This is for surfers that want free pix.

Now we are locking down new terms and conditions. If you haven't sent a "CLICK" not a sale.... But a click you will be deleted from the account.

If this is too much to ask from a sponsor, then you are in a very fucked up world.


Send 1 CLICK WITHIN 30 DAYS

Tranza or tarzan whatever he called hasn't sent any clicks since we opened the program. Yes this is my loss I need more affiliates like you that send NO traffic ? I don't think so.


Is it professional? It's business. Shit or get off the pot! I need to spend time helping the affiliates that send a sale or two. Or even 1 click, just to say you tried
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look closely, you named the sponsor in your initial post

lol


Shit, I didn't notice that.
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Really not cool, maybe someone from BGB could shed light on this?
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on another board an aff posted his ccbill stats, wont copy them here but heres the idea:

2 months, all bgb sites, 7 rebills

He posted katesplayground (you know the YUMMY girl with the BIG err ok you get the idea) :

14 days (!) 73 rebills

Not just signups are wacky, rebills are hell and no I dont have anything against them, just stating facts.

You are one of the 1st (Competeing program owners to chime in on us) let me put it to you like this Flying Dutchman. We don't like you. We don't want you to promote us. You talk shit, be we are ALL over your TGP. What's that mean? Somebody's making $$$ on us. You might want to STFU and go back to Holland before I burn those wooden shoes again.


Geezus christ Asshat...you even have us on your links Page

http://dutchteencash.com/links.html

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RESPONSE:

We send affiliates e-mails when...
1. WE LAUNCH A NEW SITE (Figure an affiliate would like to know that)
2. WE have new promos to offer.

If you are getting the daily e-mails,it's because-

1. You put your e-mail address in our FREE PIC e-mail on the index of all of our websites. This is for surfers that want free pix.

Now we are locking down new terms and conditions. If you haven't sent a "CLICK" not a sale.... But a click you will be deleted from the account.

If this is too much to ask from a sponsor, then you are in a very fucked up world.


Send 1 CLICK WITHIN 30 DAYS

Tranza or tarzan whatever he called hasn't sent any clicks since we opened the program. Yes this is my loss I need more affiliates like you that send NO traffic ? I don't think so.


Is it professional? It's business. Shit or get off the pot! I need to spend time helping the affiliates that send a sale or two. Or even 1 click, just to say you tried

Now this is what I call a professional response.

Enough said.
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You talk shit, be we are ALL over your TGP. What's that mean? Somebody's making $$$ on us.
Geezus christ Asshat...you even have us on your links Page

http://dutchteencash.com/links.html
I think that calls for a ban on your TGP, don't you agree thinkx?
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You are one of the 1st (Competeing program owners to chime in on us) let me put it to you like this Flying Dutchman. We don't like you. We don't want you to promote us. You talk shit, be we are ALL over your TGP. What's that mean? Somebody's making $$$ on us. You might want to STFU and go back to Holland before I burn those wooden shoes again.


Geezus christ Asshat...you even have us on your links Page

http://dutchteencash.com/links.html

hahaha you deleted our banner quick..now run to your two tgps and take off our girls...run forrest run..hurry up before everyone sees your a phony
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You are one of the 1st (Competeing program owners to chime in on us) let me put it to you like this Flying Dutchman. We don't like you. We don't want you to promote us. You talk shit, be we are ALL over your TGP. What's that mean? Somebody's making $$$ on us. You might want to STFU and go back to Holland before I burn those wooden shoes again.


Geezus christ Asshat...you even have us on your links Page

http://dutchteencash.com/links.html
Very very professional response. As usual. Let me respond in a pro way:

1. our tgp? dutchotties ? nndutch ? these TGPs are created by ppl who submit. We're not gonna DISapprove galleries submitted to our TGPs, it's the affiliate choice to promote a sponsor or not. We're not the ones to judge.

2. I am in Holland

3. Thanks I've just removed the button, forgot that.

Sorry it hurts to see how crappy your rebills are. Say hi to Tdawg, hes cool, if he ever needs a sales rep job let him contact us.
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Nina : there's one thing I don't understand. You're a photographer. And the program owner.

Wouldn't it be more logical to see Tdawg, since hes your sales rep, post here?
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I choose to post to respond to your dumb comments. You really need to take care of your own backyard and not worry about us so much.

as for Tdawg, he gets paid very well and I doubt you could afford him at this point, he's also a partner, so any shot you make to badgirlbucks, you make to him also. Do me a favor, move on. There's nothing to see here but fake drama that hardly anyone cares about.
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so I went out with my gf to grab a beer its a beautiful day here in Holland and guess what

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Does it hurt you so bad, that BGB blows you out of the water

Damn this guy has a problem lol
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Old 07-14-2005, 01:21 PM   #45
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so I went out with my gf to grab a beer its a beautiful day here in Holland and guess what

SIMON SYNISTER (287354572) Wrote:
Does it hurt you so bad, that BGB blows you out of the water

Damn this guy has a problem lol
pimps should all get along!
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Old 07-14-2005, 01:28 PM   #46
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pimps should all get along!
very true, if only they stuck with their promises, remember the whole hoax bout Battus posting he got sick n tired of the daily spam? We got that daily shit too, Ive asked Nina and her response was as nice as always

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We do not post on GFY as of end of FEB

I wish O I wish that would be true
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Old 07-14-2005, 01:28 PM   #47
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Based on the text you provided, that is beyond unprofessional, no matter how you look at it.

One good thing about what transpired, you now know they only care about certain web masters.

No kidding web masters get sick and tired of sponsors.

of course

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Old 07-14-2005, 01:36 PM   #48
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of course

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I know youre right, thats def not always true.

Then again you should read the icq logs and the posts badgirlbucks made here or on other boards.

I mean wtf does Nina treat ppl like that? Youre treated as you treat ppl. I mean did someone call her names? No. A LOT of people just said ease down on the affiliate emails and a friendly sidenote once a while wouldnt hurt. But she and Simon too have choosen the join or die way.

There will always be n00bs who are amazed by the 17,97 sale theyve made and forget retention sucks. Please understand I dont WANT bgb retention to suck, its bad if that happens and yes we had that too with sites and they closed simple as that. You want the best for your aff, not just the initial but 6 months later as well. So : we all gave positive feedback. And they couldnt care less and kept yelling. And now a lotta affiliates decided to leave. In fact 99% of the nonnude community decided to stop pushing them cause of the way they got treated.

And what do they do. Shout more. Shame, their girls are nice. The sites are ok, payout is cool, but damn the way they treat ppl is so disgusting.
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Old 07-14-2005, 01:40 PM   #49
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I asked them to stop e-mailing me a while back and they kindly removed me off their list, was getting maybe one e-mail a week or so, as for sales i still promote them and they are still coming, and rebills i don't look at those pieces of shit anymore they suck ALL ACROSS THE BOARD OF WHAT I PROMOTE ,
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Old 07-14-2005, 01:49 PM   #50
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I asked them to stop e-mailing me a while back and they kindly removed me off their list, was getting maybe one e-mail a week or so, as for sales i still promote them and they are still coming, and rebills i don't look at those pieces of shit anymore they suck ALL ACROSS THE BOARD OF WHAT I PROMOTE ,
Heya Well some programs defenitely have nice recurring sales, as far as DTC concerns if you wanna try out www.sweetnaturalgirl.com or so just hit me up 16 91 547 ill even bump you to 70% for a month
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