50 begging rednecks.

the worse thing is when people bring in their whiny ass kids in.

they are kids, they are supposed to get sick! wow he has a headache who fucking cares, they are supposed to build up their immune system.

i cannot stand hospitals, the past 2 times i have went there is always some fat ass mothers and their whiny kids, "o he couldnt sleep" so why the hell are you are the fucking hospital?

people are such fucking pussies.

I don't know of any state that does not offer afforable health care . . . ie: a county funded hospital

A few pissed off folks who donated to pr0 the last time he was in need with no medical insurance have been ICQing me.

I'm not the ringleader here :winkwink:

Yes . . . people have short memories

One of my friends gave him money last time he was ill. We have the paypal records here.

Seems like this fuck is ill on a regular basis.

Bad Dog ICQ?

! ! BINGO ! !
Children are made of rubber ... they fall; they recover only to fall again.

Another thing I find messed with our system; you can visit dermatologist, but not a dentist.

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I somewhat agree. The govt fucks everything up they get their hands on, but there are problems that need to be corrected. As far as people not making it a priority and spending their money elsewhere, I don't believe that to be true for the majority without coverage. I personally pay over $900 a month for coverage (for a family of 3), a lot of people simply cannot afford it. I feel the govt isnt doing a thing to address the skyrocketing costs, Bush wants to blame lawsuits, bullshit. Its the drug companies and hospitals charging outragous costs and getting away with it. Why are the same drugs cheaper in Canada?

Yet you started this thread.

I am guessing you could get higher deductibles and co-pays, or go thru a different insurer and get lower rates. Of course, you could pay more if you wanted too also.

I think he was being sarcastic, but was then notified by "his mate" about what went down in the past.

At least that's what I'm getting from "his mate" :winkwink:

can you let me add you 62556745

authorization requested . . . . oh, there you are

So let me get this straight - he signed the paperwork that said he a $1Mil cap and expected them to pay more? How much did he pay in for that $1Mil worth of services he got? I bet a LOT less than $1Mil that extended his life more than if he had used the premiums to pay for his own healthcare.

I am very sorry for the loss of your friend, but everything has maximums, as they should have. Your friend was just too sick for continued coverage under his :(

It would make more sense if a cradle-to-grave system would be fair: either those that maintain a less healthy life style (smoke, obese etc) pay more, or health conscious people pay less.

The ignorance of southern bitches

when you go to the hospital,,just give them a fake name

I'd rather be living in the socialist canada then in the capitalist USA ... that's it

ahhhh.....spoken with the true tolerance of the left :1orglaugh

Now THAT is a fair and even-handed statement. People shoudl choose what system they prefer! :thumbsup

I believe this is already the case. When I got my insurance, they asked height/weight, do I smoke, any health problems, etc. I believe I pay more because I am a smoker.

My bad ... I should have added, in Canada. Yes, the US does offer a more fair system (IME), and wish Canada would.

Let me school some of the uneducated in this thread...

1-) The US DOES have free health care. In fact, MILLIONS of people get free health care AND prescriptions. It's based on your income. In NY state where I live, ALL children, regardless of their parents' income can get FREE health care. Including dental. It's called Kid's Health Plus. They don't send them to crappy free clinics either, it's a doctor of their choice.

Also in NY state we have Hudson Valley Health Plus or something like that. My mom has no income, I support her financially 100%, she has osteo-arthritis and gets all her health care, dental, AND prescriptions paid for. She doesn't go to free clinics or "charity hospitals" (as someone ignorantly called them). She goes to ANY doctor she wants that accepts the insurance. Yes, it's limited to which doctors accept it, but that's just like any other insurance. Some doctors take some and not others.

2-) pr0 DID NOT ASK FOR DONATIONS

3-) The US makes health insurance very hard to get. You either have to have little to no income to have it paid for, be over 65 and get Medic-Care, and/or you have to be able to afford the premiums. In NY, Blue Cross wants $500/month for a SINGLE person policy. I don't have health insurance at this time and hope that I don't need it anytime soon.

The reason insurance is so much money in the US is not because of the government entirely, it's because of the lawsuits and people who abuse it. I have several hypocondriacs in my own family. My one aunt used up all of her insurance and they actually cancelled her for going to doctors 3 or 4 times a week. US citizens are addicted to all sorts of prescription meds. Nearly everyone takes some kind of prescription drug that these drug companies have led people to believing they need.

4-) pr0 DID NOT ASK FOR DONATIONS

5-) No country has 'free' health insurance. You pay for one way or another.

Not at all, just a low tolerance to ignorant hypocrites. The same people that are against universal health care are the same people that claim to be pro life yet have no problem with people not getting proper medical treatment in what is supposed to be the greatest country on earth. These are the same people that fight to protect unborn children yet have no problem letting them starve once they are born. Pro life my ass, the right have killed more people than any other group since the Nazis. In reality they are pro death.

Okay, now I am lost . . . you are saying he spent more than $1 million in premiums?

Don't you think there comes a point that you are throwing good money after bad?

Personally, I would rather just go ahead and die.

No reason to be a bitch.....that is what they call them here.

I have very decent insurance for $150.00/month. If you are not "poor", that is easily affordable. Juicy is in NY, and he has EXCELLENT coverage for less than $400.00/month.

hmmmmm...... I wonder what it must be like to be able to read peoples minds...... You are truly an amazing individual. I wish I was able to know every stand that a person took on every issue from so little data. That must be cool! :thumbsup

That sure is a broad sweeping statement. I am against universal health care, and am pro-choice.

Quit buying into the republican lie. Here's an article just put out today that dispells that bullshit.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8551575/

Don't blame lawsuits for rising health costs
Study finds high price of services, drugs account for steep expenses

WASHINGTON - Higher prices and not lawsuits or other factors have driven up health care costs in the United States, according to a study published Tuesday.

Malpractice awards in the United States amounted to only $16 per capita in 2001, compared with $12 in Britain and $10 in Australia, the team at Johns Hopkins University in Baltimore found.

The same team found in 2002 that Americans pay more for prescription drugs, hospital stays and doctor visits than citizens of other industrialized countries.

Yes, I know Juicy lives in NY and has Blue Cross. I have had Blue Cross/Blue Shield before, when I called Blue Cross a few months ago, they wanted $500/month for a single person policy now.

Of course you are, you live in the south :1orglaugh

For what kind of coverage? I have the $1000 deductible with $20 Dr. visits, $25 name brand prescrips and $2mil max for less than $350 a month and I'm 43.

I could get catastrophic insurance (higher deductible, I pay for doctor visits and 100% of prescrips until I hit my deductible, then I pay 20%) for less than $150 a month.

They have many many plans. :)

Well, I'm pro choice, but I have ZERO idea what that has to do with realizing every kind of insurance on the planet has maximum payouts, lol! :upsidedow

All people in the south are pro-choice? :Oh crap

I may be a "redneck", but I have health insurance, and pay my own way :winkwink:

I find it quite funny how there's always the one guy calling everyone else ignorant and stupid while thinking he's God and passing every cliche'd judgment in the book. Hilarious!

Ditto :thumbsup

You talk about ignorance, and follow it up with that comment?

You know how many offers for insurance I get in the mail every week? The funny thing is, I just tore up one I received in the mail about 5 minutes before reading your post.

Do we need a Red GFY and a Blue GFY?
and how the hell did pro life/death come in to this conv? Leave that shit at the door, please. (Where's my fucking coathanger!)

You do realize that medicine is a for profit industry, as is insurance.

Well, to be fair, an "offer" doesn't really mean anything. I get offers for $100,000 personal credit cards twice a week, if I really applied I would probably be dropped down to something much less. You receive all of those offers because the insurance companies buy your name off of a list and send out an "offer" to everyone.

But yeh, insurance isn't THAT hard to get for a typical person, but for someone with pre-existing conditions it gets much more difficult depending on the condition. I have friends with no insurance that claim its too expensive yet eat out 3 nights a week. Its fine if a person would rather pay for entertainment than insurance, but to whine that insurance is "too expensive" is silly. There are solutions out there, just need to look.

I'm not sure exactly... it was for a single person plan, full coverage, prescriptions etc. I believe they paid 80%... all I know is that the single person plan and the family plans weren't much different.

Basically, ThunderBalls said those of us against universal healthcare are pro-choice assholes, who want everyone "born", but don't want to take care of people who are here. I was just giving my stance on the issue so he would know he is wrong. (Passing you my coathanger to borrow, but next time use a fucking condom!) :winkwink:

Ok, well I live in NY and I can honestly say I've never received an offer in the mail for insurance. Everything in NY is more expensive. From utilities to insurance... we pay considerably more. The US (at least NY state) makes it hard to AFFORD insurance. Surely if it was in fact easier, more people would have it, no?

I also know when you miss a payment or 2 (maybe 3?) with Blue Cross, they cancel you and make you wait a year before you can join again.

I was the one who crashed the car pr0 was injured in.
Any medical bills would be covered by me.
So that point is pretty much null. Anyone saying pr0 asked for anything regarding this wreck can give me a toothy blowjob AND a reacharound as pr0 hasnt asked anyone here for anything regarding this car wreck.

Nice sigwhore post though relish :thumbsup

Like I put in another thread

Would there be a way to get a GFY group policy for all of the webmasters and their families who are self-employed?

Sorry to hear about that pr0. Get better soon.

LOL, adda-girl ... I love your sense of hah-hah. (I appreciate it, but there is no need ... SNIP!)

It just breaks my heart watching everyone with an opinion debate, even if some contradict themselves :winkwink:

this threads title didnt say ( pr0's beliefs on medical care ) it called him an idiot and then several people went on to say he was asking for money. Which he was not.