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Old 07-09-2005, 03:56 PM   #251
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Old 07-09-2005, 03:56 PM   #252
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Old 07-09-2005, 04:17 PM   #254
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the day this sees a court room here, and you actually winning? that will be funny.

because me vs you anyday talking tech, you couldnt even do anything without your asshat lemmings.

i will be glad to face you in court if it actually reaches court.
I'd like to see the judges face when you start talking tech. Do you really think HE will understand?
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Old 07-09-2005, 04:18 PM   #255
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Old 07-09-2005, 04:21 PM   #256
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Old 07-09-2005, 05:00 PM   #257
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wow what a lot of Drama here. Unfortunately the Canadian legal system is vastly different then the american. Brad will serve papers and after the Canadian lawyers milks him for about 30k they are gonna wind up in court and the judge is gonna toss it right out of the window. As far as internet security and damages you are actually only entitled to losses in Canada. And that could be very minimal. However if Fris does decide to countersue it will probably be thrown out or there will be a settlement of less then a couple thousand and it could go either way. Also Brad you are not entitled to all your Legal Fees even if you win. Maximum is about 8k and that is in Canadian money and it will take about 2 years to see the court system. Unfortunately this is just something that is gonna squeeze your cash flow and not Fris'. Also in Canadian law Fris can claim he is destitute and you will receive nothing.
Of course your lawyer told you all this ;) Right?

Also if you are not incorporated in Canada and not doing business in Canada with a proven Cash flow from your software you will receive $0 and have to pay Fris's legal fees.

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Old 07-09-2005, 05:02 PM   #258
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Old 07-09-2005, 05:08 PM   #259
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wow what a lot of Drama here. Unfortunately the Canadian legal system is vastly different then the american. Brad will serve papers and after the Canadian lawyers milks him for about 30k they are gonna wind up in court and the judge is gonna toss it right out of the window. As far as internet security and damages you are actually only entitled to losses in Canada. And that could be very minimal. However if Fris does decide to countersue it will probably be thrown out or there will be a settlement of less then a couple thousand and it could go either way. Also Brad you are not entitled to all your Legal Fees even if you win. Maximum is about 8k and that is in Canadian money and it will take about 2 years to see the court system. Unfortunately this is just something that is gonna squeeze your cash flow and not Fris'. Also in Canadian law Fris can claim he is destitute and you will receive nothing.
Of course your lawyer told you all this ;) Right?

Also if you are not incorporated in Canada and not doing business in Canada with a proven Cash flow from your software you will receive $0 and have to pay Fris's legal fees.
Strangely enough, a friend of mine who is a Canadian Lawyer pretty much laughed at the whole thing too. Brad probably knows best though.
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Old 07-09-2005, 05:14 PM   #260
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Strangely enough, a friend of mine who is a Canadian Lawyer pretty much laughed at the whole thing too. Brad probably knows best though.

Yeah actually a Canadian Lawyer unless he is your friend will not tell you the reality of what is actually gonna happen. He is just gonna open his hands up and say send me the retainer ;) I mean in civil matters , somebody who is maimed in a car accident is lucky if he gets a $100k and that is only cause there is State owned Insurance. Civil matters in business are very expensive and are 9 times out 10 hardly worth it unless the matter is in the millions and both parties are cash flow positive. Fris being Canadian could potentially actually make money from being sued, and that is the reality of the Canadian legal system.

Again of course Brads attorney told him all this ;)

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Old 07-09-2005, 05:21 PM   #261
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Yeah actually a Canadian Lawyer unless he is your friend will not tell you the reality of what is actually gonna happen. He is just gonna open his hands up and say send me the retainer ;) I mean in civil matters , somebody who is maimed in a car accident is lucky if he gets a $100k and that is only cause there is State owned Insurance. Civil matters in business are very expensive and are 9 times out 10 hardly worth it unless the matter is in the millions and both parties are cash flow positive. Fris being Canadian could potentially actually make money from being sued, and that is the reality of the Canadian legal system.

Again of course Brads attorney told him all this ;)
WOW thats all I can say. I think this whole thing has got outtahand you guys need to turn it into a positive business solution.

Becasue the only ones who will win are the attorneys
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Old 07-09-2005, 05:22 PM   #262
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And it should also be duelly noted that the servers that Fris touched would have to be on Canadian soil at the time that alleged incident happened. Of course your lawyer told you that ;) ???
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Old 07-09-2005, 05:24 PM   #263
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Old 07-09-2005, 05:42 PM   #264
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Old 07-09-2005, 05:43 PM   #265
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Oh come off of it already.

Fris really has nothing to worry about.
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Old 07-09-2005, 05:46 PM   #266
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sorry someone linked me on icq, i been out all day, just got back from toronto, sorry i couldnt keep up with gfy, but my icq was flashing like crazzzy. thanks for all the updates people that icq'd me.

damn, myself i do like to stay out of drama, i do not like it, i just like the facts.

i like to present them, i want them told whats why i make threads.

i am no less of a person cause i make them.

i like facts.

drinking is about to commense. hope you guys are going to do that as well. i know saturday nights should be spent off gfy.

hope everyone has a good night.

and brad. i didnt even read the last 2 pages. i am just replying. so whatever threads, or anything you said i have not read.

but give a smooch to shawugly for me.
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Brad, if you really think you can win this you are nuts. You need to a check a case that is going on in the Canadian Supreme Courts right now. Currently, Fris could write how to break into a house, murder, hack, etc, and it?s legal in Canada to produce and publish. Then onto hacking, unless it was forced entry to a secure system, it isn?t hacking in Canada. Unless you have proof, solid proof, (ip address, stolen private date, etc) a judge won?t even hear the case in Canada and the RCMP will just laugh at you for reporting it. Read what has taken place in Canada over the last few years. Then, lets not forget that Fris can just ignore your case and nothing your lawyer or the American Judge can do about it. You can sue for damages all day long, records, papers, etc.. and he can just laugh as he shreds them.
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Let's build the drama bigger than MJ trial!
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Unless you have proof, solid proof, (ip address, stolen private date, etc) a judge won?t even hear the case in Canada and the RCMP will just laugh at you for reporting it. Read what has taken place in Canada over the last few years. Then, lets not forget that Fris can just ignore your case and nothing your lawyer or the American Judge can do about it. You can sue for damages all day long, records, papers, etc.. and he can just laugh as he shreds them.
I have GOT to move to Canada....
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Must be the summer heat. So many feuds on GFY this week.
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excellent point, also I heard it was not trabbys this time , he did something extreme
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is shawugly coming to florida? would love to grab 10 of our men and do a little bukkake on her.

bradshaw. why does your company have many outstandings on the BBB website?

kinda shady.
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bradshaw. why does your company have many outstandings on the BBB website?

kinda shady.
from a couple pics posted i would say his wife is far from ugly looking
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