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Dirty F · 07-07-2005, 06:25 PM

Although i prefer to shoot outside with natural light im now finally gonna buy some lights for indoors.
Shit is Holland is twice as expensive as on the other site of the ocean. So im browsing American shops who ship to Holland which is still way cheaper.

Anyway.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll... 809&tc=photo

Would you say theres anything wrong with this set, if so what?

imageman · 07-07-2005, 06:29 PM

If you shoot fast you may find the 1/2 to 4 second recycle a tad slow.

Dirty F · 07-07-2005, 06:31 PM

I shoot fast yes.

Juilan · 07-07-2005, 06:36 PM

Elinchrom and ProFoto make quite nice strobes

Dirty F · 07-07-2005, 06:53 PM

bbump...

Hunter_ST · 07-07-2005, 06:55 PM

http://www.white-lightning.com/

Dirty F · 07-07-2005, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Hunter_ST

http://www.white-lightning.com/

Checking out now.

xenigo · 07-07-2005, 07:05 PM

I gotta recommend the Bees. www.alienbees.com

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showpo...0&postcount=32

Dirty F · 07-07-2005, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by xenigo

I gotta recommend the Bees. www.alienbees.com

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showpo...0&postcount=32

The 800's ?

Dirty F · 07-07-2005, 07:11 PM

Do you use the slave flash? As is in you use your camera flash on top of the strobes flash?

Dirty F · 07-07-2005, 07:21 PM

Damn, too bad the alienbee package comes with 2 umbrellas instead of softboxes.

xenigo · 07-07-2005, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Franck

Do you use the slave flash? As is in you use your camera flash on top of the strobes flash?

I have two 800's and I get content that looks superb. You will want to get a wireless trigger that will fire the lights. The camera flash syncs at a different speed than the strobes, and it ends up being a totally unuseable image. The alternative is using a sync-cord which is a wire that goes from your camera to one of the lights. The 2nd light detects the 1st, and fires at the same time.

Non-Nude Sample taken with the two 800's

Anyway, you can't go wrong with these lights. They've lasted me forever and I've never had any problems with them. Their warranty basically states that if you break a light, you ship it back to them and they'll send you a new unit for super cheap. They'll even do it if you're out of warranty. When you call, the same lady answers the phone each time. They're very cool people to deal with.

Dirty F · 07-07-2005, 07:23 PM

But still, even compared to the bees, i see nothing wrong with my first link other than the recharge time being a little bit longer. Its cheaper, stronger lights and it comes with softboxes instead of umbrellas. Which saves me another 200 dollars for the same package.

Shooting_Manic · 07-07-2005, 07:24 PM

Watch the recycle time on those. They are nice sets, but pretty slow. If you are a fast shooter as you say, that amount of time will seem like an hour.

http://www.white-lightning.com

Nice way to go and you can find a nice set on Ebay im sure.

xenigo · 07-07-2005, 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Franck

Damn, too bad the alienbee package comes with 2 umbrellas instead of softboxes.

You can configure the package however you wish.

Dirty F · 07-07-2005, 07:28 PM

Im gonna mail them and see if they can replace the umbrellas with the softboxes for some extra $$

BillPMB · 07-07-2005, 07:40 PM

I use two of these with pocket wizards, works great.
http://secure.mycart.net/catalogs/ca...prodid=3553155

Primary and fill, rheostat Fstop adjustments to dial it in perfectly.

I can bang out 400 exposures on 1 charge too, so they usually last longer than the models.

Dirty F · 07-07-2005, 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BillPMB

I use two of these with pocket wizards, works great.
http://secure.mycart.net/catalogs/ca...prodid=3553155

Primary and fill, rheostat Fstop adjustments to dial it in perfectly.

I can bang out 400 exposures on 1 charge too, so they usually last longer than the models.

300w is not much.

abyss_al · 07-07-2005, 08:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xenigo

I gotta recommend the Bees. www.alienbees.com

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showpo...0&postcount=32

Juilan · 07-07-2005, 08:25 PM

I also use the alien bees 800's with softboxes. Pocket wizard transmitter is essential. Would trust them way more than whatever brand is in that ebay link.

SinisterStudios · 07-07-2005, 09:02 PM

I love my dyna-lites, 2000 watts with 4 heads and a full wireless triggering system. They have performed flaulessly for me

BillPMB · 07-08-2005, 05:23 AM

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300w is not much.

It's plenty if you shoot with good glass and you know what you're doing. Who the hell wants everything Hi-Key?

MaDalton · 07-08-2005, 05:39 AM

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Originally Posted by BillPMB

It's plenty if you shoot with good glass and you know what you're doing. Who the hell wants everything Hi-Key?

i second that - and vouch for Elinchrom. especially when you shoot fast and need quick reload times

Juilan · 07-08-2005, 07:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaDalton

i second that - and vouch for Elinchrom. especially when you shoot fast and need quick reload times

Yeah the quality of light is just different- like from the pages of Vogue.

MaDalton · 07-08-2005, 07:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juilan

Yeah the quality of light is just different- like from the pages of Vogue.

we now work with 4 elinchrom 500W flashes and a huge octobox - but of course you need large rooms and the flashes have to be adjustable in their power - the cheap ones are not (mostly). but there's surely a reason that one elinchrom flash costs more than this ebay offer with two flashes and two softboxes.

Paul Markham · 07-08-2005, 07:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaDalton

we now work with 4 elinchrom 500W flashes and a huge octobox - but of course you need large rooms and the flashes have to be adjustable in their power - the cheap ones are not (mostly). but there's surely a reason that one elinchrom flash costs more than this ebay offer with two flashes and two softboxes.

This kit at $479 is less than we pay for one Multiblitz Varilux 500, but they will find out what great value they are shooting 5+ sets of a model at speed when the light blows out and the $500 a day model tells them she still wants her money.

As for speed, other than freezing a cum shot in the air why would you want anything faster than 1/2 a second?

Dirty F · 07-08-2005, 08:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by charly

This kit at $479 is less than we pay for one Multiblitz Varilux 500, but they will find out what great value they are shooting 5+ sets of a model at speed when the light blows out and the $500 a day model tells them she still wants her money.

As for speed, other than freezing a cum shot in the air why would you want anything faster than 1/2 a second?

Well i only pay 35 bucks a hour for my models so i can get away with it

No seriously im going for the bees. Many people recommend them, also on another board so they have to be good.

07-07-2005, 06:25 PM	#1
Dirty F Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 59,204	Yo photographers, inside Although i prefer to shoot outside with natural light im now finally gonna buy some lights for indoors. Shit is Holland is twice as expensive as on the other site of the ocean. So im browsing American shops who ship to Holland which is still way cheaper. Anyway. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll... 809&tc=photo Would you say theres anything wrong with this set, if so what?

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Dirty F Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 59,204	I shoot fast yes.

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07-07-2005, 07:11 PM	#10
Dirty F Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 59,204	Do you use the slave flash? As is in you use your camera flash on top of the strobes flash?

07-07-2005, 07:21 PM	#11
Dirty F Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 59,204	Damn, too bad the alienbee package comes with 2 umbrellas instead of softboxes.

07-07-2005, 07:23 PM	#13
Dirty F Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 59,204	But still, even compared to the bees, i see nothing wrong with my first link other than the recharge time being a little bit longer. Its cheaper, stronger lights and it comes with softboxes instead of umbrellas. Which saves me another 200 dollars for the same package.

07-07-2005, 07:28 PM	#16
Dirty F Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 59,204	Im gonna mail them and see if they can replace the umbrellas with the softboxes for some extra $$

07-07-2005, 08:25 PM	#20
Juilan Sultan of Swing Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: XXXodus Posts: 15,141	I also use the alien bees 800's with softboxes. Pocket wizard transmitter is essential. Would trust them way more than whatever brand is in that ebay link. __________________ My Best Converting VOD Sponsor \|

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