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Old 07-08-2005, 02:18 AM   #1
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What is "Bundesministerium fur Familie, Senioren, Frauen und Jugend" ?? Got a...

Got a stupid letter from them at Deutsh.. Do I speak Deutsh? NO! So all german people, what is this for a shitty organisation.. They say they work under the goverment.

GERMAN PEOPLE:
What is this?
What do they do?
what do I have to do?


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Old 07-08-2005, 02:20 AM   #2
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It's the "Ministry for Family, Seniors, Women and Youth Affairs", and I have no clue what they wan´t from you. What´s the letter say?
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Old 07-08-2005, 02:22 AM   #3
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Old 07-08-2005, 02:22 AM   #4
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It's the "Ministry for Family, Seniors, Women and Youth Affairs", and I have no clue what they wan´t from you. What´s the letter say?

i second that


if you want me to translate just give me the letter
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Old 07-08-2005, 02:22 AM   #5
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It's the "Ministry for Family, Seniors, Women and Youth Affairs", and I have no clue what they wan´t from you. What´s the letter say?
They explain that the protect German people from dangerous and violent content at internet and gave me 2 weeks to close my site (???)

The site is www.young8teen.net

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Old 07-08-2005, 02:24 AM   #6
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They explain that the protect German people from dangerous and violent content at internet and gave me 2 weeks to close my site (???)

The site is www.young8teen.net


Strange... How can they do things like this when they have lost 2 WW??!!

lol
you wonder why they can do this ? german state can do almost everything they want to. better take that serious
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Old 07-08-2005, 02:25 AM   #7
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lol
you wonder why they can do this ? german state can do almost everything they want to. better take that serious
Can you hit me up at ICQ?
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Old 07-08-2005, 02:27 AM   #8
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sure no problem
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Old 07-08-2005, 02:27 AM   #9
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Old 07-08-2005, 02:38 AM   #10
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Nearly every (big) porn site gets such a letter from Germany ... these guys think they can control the internet

As long as you don't live in Germany there is no problem
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Old 07-08-2005, 02:43 AM   #11
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As long as your company is not based in Germany, you can simply burn that letter or use it in that room where all things are ceramic.
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Old 07-08-2005, 02:47 AM   #12
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Nearly every (big) porn site gets such a letter from Germany ... these guys think they can control the internet

As long as you don't live in Germany there is no problem
What happends when I visit Germany??
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Old 07-08-2005, 02:59 AM   #13
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What happends when I visit Germany??

No problem ... as long as your operations are not based in Germany. Like I said sooner or later everyone gets that letter. I remember Sleazy posting about that letter some time ago.
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Old 07-08-2005, 03:04 AM   #14
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What happends when I visit Germany??
This is what happened to the last guy visiting Germany after getting that letter

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Old 07-08-2005, 03:28 AM   #15
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They will throw your ass in the next prison LoL. Naaah, nothing will happen, they can´t even control porn sites in their own country, I am german and have 3 of these letters.... so drop that shit in the garbage.
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Old 07-08-2005, 03:33 AM   #16
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Old 07-08-2005, 03:35 AM   #17
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They will throw your ass in the next prison LoL. Naaah, nothing will happen, they can´t even control porn sites in their own country, I am german and have 3 of these letters.... so drop that shit in the garbage.
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Old 07-08-2005, 03:43 AM   #18
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Old 07-08-2005, 03:56 AM   #19
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No problem ... as long as your operations are not based in Germany. Like I said sooner or later everyone gets that letter. I remember Sleazy posting about that letter some time ago.
It's a problem. If he is going to visit germany it can be that he will be arrested at the airport already ...
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Old 07-08-2005, 03:58 AM   #20
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I know a guy that got killed by a Gestapo agent for not closing down his site after reciving the same letter
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Old 07-08-2005, 03:59 AM   #21
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It's a problem. If he is going to visit germany it can be that he will be arrested at the airport already ...
There is no border control with in the EU
... or hardly any
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Old 07-08-2005, 04:14 AM   #22
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lol - funny stuff. they still try it. burn the letter, nothing will happen. you are not a german citizen.

for a long time i thought germany was the only country with stupid laws like that, but since 2257 i was forced to change my mind about that
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Old 07-08-2005, 05:13 AM   #23
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What happends when I visit Germany??
Hard to tell, I don't know if they really check for stuff like that at the airport, but you aren't serving anything specificly to german people and trying to enforce country laws worldwide is simply insane and just makes clear that they didn't understand the nature of the internet.

Even sending letters in german and not in english is simply insane when somebody obviously doesn't have anything to do with germany.

A lawyer could get you out of this case anytime if you should get arrested in germany, I have no doubts about that, do they even know your name or just some PO box / business adress?

Sending this to some german TV channels and german press could maybe help to stop that crap
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Old 07-08-2005, 05:31 AM   #24
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It's a problem. If he is going to visit germany it can be that he will be arrested at the airport already ...
Bullshit, there is no kind of arrest warrant or stuff like that...
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Old 07-08-2005, 05:38 AM   #25
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complain about them wasting tax money for that bullshit here:
http://www.bundesrechnungshof.de/en/
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Old 07-08-2005, 05:42 AM   #26
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Old 07-08-2005, 05:53 AM   #27
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Bullshit, there is no kind of arrest warrant or stuff like that...
They will most likely start criminal investigations if he does not respond/takes the site down ... He is breaking the german law.
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Just throw it away. As long as you don't host your site here in Germany, it is not a problem for you. It's the german version of shock and awe
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Old 07-08-2005, 06:06 AM   #29
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They will most likely start criminal investigations if he does not respond/takes the site down ... He is breaking the german law.
The common letter I know is just about "indizierung" which means the site gets on a list of youth endangering media and states nothing about criminal investigations.

The only difference is that it comes from the BPjM and not from the "Bundesministerium fur Familie, Senioren, Frauen und Jugend".

LasseKongos scan the letter and post the pics in this thread so you can be sure about the content.
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