401 Traffic - What To Put On The Redirect Page? - GoFuckYourself.com

European Lee · 07-02-2005, 06:06 PM

Just wanted to see your thoughts on the best things to put on a 401 redirect page?

Do you list your own sites, another sponsors sites or something else?

Is this type of traffic marketable in any way?

Regards,

Lee

rowan · 07-02-2005, 11:28 PM

401? I presume it's a paysite, don't you want to try to get them to sign up?

kernelpanic · 07-02-2005, 11:30 PM

Give them a popunder, and then redirect to a free gallery.

Mako · 07-02-2005, 11:40 PM

Good post Lee, going through the same thing myself. Would like to hear strategies for 400, 401, 404, etc.

rowan · 07-03-2005, 01:46 AM

I must have missed my happy pills for today, or else you guys are smokin' something. If it's a 401 that means that the surfer has failed authentication. Some of the situations might be...

* An active member that has mistyped their password
* An expired member who attempts to login (and of course fails)
* A confused guest who might think that the "members" link is a how-to-join tour or the actual join page

Why on earth would you want to push these people away?? Looks like you mistyped your pass, here's a popunder and some free galleries!

Your 401 page should have at the minimum a link to the members area (to try again), the join page (to rejoin) and the tour.

Merrioc · 07-03-2005, 02:11 AM

rowen:

Your not 'pushing' them away, you've outlined maybe half the senerio's.

often times 401 are also people looking to see if the members area in not protected or uses a simple password protection to break (or brute force).

The point of handling 401 traffic is to send the real failed user to a page that gives them a lost password look up. But more often then not the person hitting the page isn't a member (hell half the time isn't even human).

stragies I've seen/used:
log it, count it, cookie it (if a cookie can't be set then redirect).
send it to a standard error page (normally with a popunder)
if the count for a paticular IP/username exceeds X attempts redirect to an in niche gallery
if ip/username exceeds Y attempts get it the off the server, send it to a top list or feed trades or raw no ratio affilate (yea you may get banned or kicked out of the program)

I actually had a nightly report of logins/attempts I counted the usernames, it was easy to see shared passwords etc without the need for any of the fancy applications out there and I made $$ off the traffic by redirecting usernames I knew were bad/shared/etc

07-02-2005, 06:06 PM	#1
European Lee Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Daytona Beach Posts: 7,133	401 Traffic - What To Put On The Redirect Page? Just wanted to see your thoughts on the best things to put on a 401 redirect page? Do you list your own sites, another sponsors sites or something else? Is this type of traffic marketable in any way? Regards, Lee __________________ YOUR TRAFFIC IS SAFE WITH US - CONDOM CASH PUTTING THE GAY ADULT INDUSTRY ON YOUR PC!! AFFORDABLE 2257 COMPLIANT GAY + BI CONTENT

07-02-2005, 11:30 PM	#3
kernelpanic Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 2,961	Give them a popunder, and then redirect to a free gallery. __________________ ZangoCash - Turn Your Traffic Into Ca$h. $.40 Per Install - No Tier

07-02-2005, 11:40 PM	#4
Mako Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: The OC baby! Posts: 1,986	Good post Lee, going through the same thing myself. Would like to hear strategies for 400, 401, 404, etc. __________________

07-02-2005, 11:28 PM	#2
rowan Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 17,393	401? I presume it's a paysite, don't you want to try to get them to sign up?

07-03-2005, 01:46 AM	#5
rowan Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 17,393	I must have missed my happy pills for today, or else you guys are smokin' something. If it's a 401 that means that the surfer has failed authentication. Some of the situations might be... * An active member that has mistyped their password * An expired member who attempts to login (and of course fails) * A confused guest who might think that the "members" link is a how-to-join tour or the actual join page Why on earth would you want to push these people away?? Looks like you mistyped your pass, here's a popunder and some free galleries! Your 401 page should have at the minimum a link to the members area (to try again), the join page (to rejoin) and the tour.

07-03-2005, 02:11 AM	#6
Merrioc Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 249	rowen: Your not 'pushing' them away, you've outlined maybe half the senerio's. often times 401 are also people looking to see if the members area in not protected or uses a simple password protection to break (or brute force). The point of handling 401 traffic is to send the real failed user to a page that gives them a lost password look up. But more often then not the person hitting the page isn't a member (hell half the time isn't even human). stragies I've seen/used: log it, count it, cookie it (if a cookie can't be set then redirect). send it to a standard error page (normally with a popunder) if the count for a paticular IP/username exceeds X attempts redirect to an in niche gallery if ip/username exceeds Y attempts get it the off the server, send it to a top list or feed trades or raw no ratio affilate (yea you may get banned or kicked out of the program) I actually had a nightly report of logins/attempts I counted the usernames, it was easy to see shared passwords etc without the need for any of the fancy applications out there and I made $$ off the traffic by redirecting usernames I knew were bad/shared/etc