Up to 38% of Google's revenue may be fraudulent, lawsuit claims - GoFuckYourself.com

vvq · 06-30-2005, 03:46 PM

story here http://www.fuckedgoogle.com/

steelie601 · 06-30-2005, 08:51 PM

is that site some kind of joke? all i see are complete lies about google.

how do they avoid getting sued?

xxxice · 06-30-2005, 09:15 PM

Not surprised

steelie601 · 06-30-2005, 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vanderweb

Not surprised

Not surprised that someone is taking pot-shots at google or not surprised that google might be raking in the bucks via fraud?

marketsmart · 06-30-2005, 09:40 PM

Of course Google is aware of click fraud, but I know that it's not some scheme they have created to build their business behind. Google is a public company now and they answer to Wall Street. sidebar: For those of you who think it's the shareholders a public company answers to, think again, it's the institutional investors that can make or break a company based on their reccomendations to the institutions investors. I could go into this for hours based on my experience as an insider of a publicly held company during the dot com days, but I will sum it up like this; Wall Street is very responsible for a lot of the bogus accounting companies did to keep their large investors happy.

The bottom line is that even with click fraud, if a customer doesn't get a decent return on their investment, they will not stay a customer. All the things Google is doing (gmail, online word app, desktop browser, etc.) clearly shows that they are planning on being around for a long time. At the same time, they have to show consistent profit growth and that probably has an impact on waiting to address problems that if corrected would effect their revenues.

Look at all the sites that just link to other sites and are created just to have ad words. Personally, I would rather they address all the garbage sites you have to sift through these days to find what you are looking for...

xxxice · 06-30-2005, 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by steelie601

Not surprised that someone is taking pot-shots at google or not surprised that google might be raking in the bucks via fraud?

Did you just join the board to ask me this question ?

xxxice · 06-30-2005, 10:57 PM

Oh i see you joined for this thread. I am saying that in general it seems everyone talks about everyone so it did not surprise me that people would talk about google.

warlock5 · 06-30-2005, 10:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marketsmart

Look at all the sites that just link to other sites and are created just to have ad words. Personally, I would rather they address all the garbage sites you have to sift through these days to find what you are looking for...

Those sites are still driving relevent traffic to the advertisers -- even if the pages were generated by SE spamming programs like fantomas.

marketsmart · 06-30-2005, 11:38 PM

Totally agree. For me personally, it drives me crazy. Unfortunately, only manual intervention could correct the problem. To be more specific, lets say I do a search for furniture. I click on a returned result and it's a liking site. Ok, thats fine and I don't mind the ads either, but when I click on one of the links and it takes me to another linking site I get very irritated. Also, I would like to see engines seperate personal from commerce. I don't mind ads, but if I am trying to get tips on how to build a japenese zen garden, I don't want someone to try to sell me a hot tub or garden hose.

DateDoc · 06-30-2005, 11:42 PM

If Google got rid of adsense fraud would drop way down. Too many website owners running adsense are clicking ads on their sites to make themselves money.

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06-30-2005, 08:51 PM	#2
steelie601 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 2	is that site some kind of joke? all i see are complete lies about google. how do they avoid getting sued?

06-30-2005, 09:15 PM	#3
xxxice Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 5,042	Not surprised

06-30-2005, 09:40 PM	#5
marketsmart HOMICIDAL TROLL KILLER Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sunnybrook Institution for the Criminally Insane Posts: 20,419	Of course Google is aware of click fraud, but I know that it's not some scheme they have created to build their business behind. Google is a public company now and they answer to Wall Street. sidebar: For those of you who think it's the shareholders a public company answers to, think again, it's the institutional investors that can make or break a company based on their reccomendations to the institutions investors. I could go into this for hours based on my experience as an insider of a publicly held company during the dot com days, but I will sum it up like this; Wall Street is very responsible for a lot of the bogus accounting companies did to keep their large investors happy. The bottom line is that even with click fraud, if a customer doesn't get a decent return on their investment, they will not stay a customer. All the things Google is doing (gmail, online word app, desktop browser, etc.) clearly shows that they are planning on being around for a long time. At the same time, they have to show consistent profit growth and that probably has an impact on waiting to address problems that if corrected would effect their revenues. Look at all the sites that just link to other sites and are created just to have ad words. Personally, I would rather they address all the garbage sites you have to sift through these days to find what you are looking for...

06-30-2005, 10:57 PM	#7
xxxice Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 5,042	Oh i see you joined for this thread. I am saying that in general it seems everyone talks about everyone so it did not surprise me that people would talk about google.

06-30-2005, 11:38 PM	#9
marketsmart HOMICIDAL TROLL KILLER Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sunnybrook Institution for the Criminally Insane Posts: 20,419	Totally agree. For me personally, it drives me crazy. Unfortunately, only manual intervention could correct the problem. To be more specific, lets say I do a search for furniture. I click on a returned result and it's a liking site. Ok, thats fine and I don't mind the ads either, but when I click on one of the links and it takes me to another linking site I get very irritated. Also, I would like to see engines seperate personal from commerce. I don't mind ads, but if I am trying to get tips on how to build a japenese zen garden, I don't want someone to try to sell me a hot tub or garden hose.