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TGCashin · 06-29-2005, 10:51 AM

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WASHINGTON ? Search engines and peer-to-peer networks aren?t doing enough to prevent underage surfers from accessing adult content, according to the U.S. Government Accountability Office.

Claiming it wanted to gauge how easy it is for children to inadvertently access pornographic files online, the House Government Reform Committee asked the GAO to test some of the most popular file-sharing sources on the Internet, including P2P programs such as Warez, Kazaa and Morpheus and search engines such as Yahoo, Google and MSN.

While GAO investigators said the P2P programs and search engines varied in effectiveness at filtering out adult files, the report concluded that, in general, ?pornographic images are easily shared and accessed? and ?juveniles continue to be at risk of inadvertent exposure to pornographic images.?

Such findings could provide ammunition for legislators who have been calling for tighter controls on Internet content, including Rep. Joe Pitts, R-Pa., the man who heads the committee that ordered the report.

?Pornography presents a clear and present danger to children who use file-sharing programs to find images of their favorite athletes or copies of favorite songs,? Pitts said. ?Unfortunately, innocuous searching quickly leads to dangerous places. These kids are exposed to untold numbers of pornographic files. This is a threat that Congress must address.?

Rep. Chip Pickering, R-Miss., spoke in even more ominous tones, warning that, "The private sector must provide a means for parents to guard their children from the proliferation of online smut. If Congress doesn't see a positive good-faith movement, we will consider regulatory solutions."

According to the GAO report, Warez does not provide any filtering options. It found that Kazaa?s filter blocked certain words found in the titles or metadata of files shared with the software, making it effective in blocking images and files that had been accurately labeled, but the Morpheus filter was ?largely ineffective in blocking pornographic content associated with words entered into the filter.?

Additionally, the programs ?did not display any warning indicating that pornography, including child pornography, was accessible through these programs.?

The search engines tested didn?t fare any better. In particular, Google and Yahoo were found to be ?largely ineffective?; MSN, on the other hand, was deemed to be more effective.

Google has come under fire in the past from both family advocates and adult companies for not doing enough to block access to copyrighted adult material.

Perfect 10 founder Norman Zada is suing Google for millions in lost revenue for Google?s failure to exclude his company?s content in its search results. Zada told XBiz the search engine is aware of the problem but unwilling to do anything about it because it makes too much money from adult content.

He is not alone in his accusations.

"If Google put some of its smart people on this task, they could do a much better job than they have so far," said Ben Edelman, a Harvard Law School researcher who specializes in Internet issues. "They've got a lot of smart people. It would be shocking if their great engineers couldn't do better. The question is whether that's a priority for Google."

?juveniles continue to be at risk of inadvertent exposure to pornographic images.? - Yeh... all the times that I was underage searching for the term "sex" i really ment to type "soccer" but my twitching made me type it incorrectly! Oh, and all them bookmarks to TGP's such as sublimedirectory... shit I thought them were Cartoon Network websites... Oh them movies I stashed in my room? My friend told me they were copies of VH1's pop up video!

?Pornography presents a clear and present danger to children who use file-sharing programs to find images of their favorite athletes or copies of favorite songs,? - So the Feds are all for children becoming bootlegers and stealing/pirating copyrighted music, but god for bid if they see a titty here or there? Yes becoming a theaf at a young age is so much better than smacken around the monkey.

Now don't get me wrong. I am for protecting our kids, but seriously... do you honestly think kids ACCIDENTLY look at porn, further more, how can you say "lets filter porn from them so they can break the law and steal music". You got to be kidding me?

Filtering is the STUPIDEST thing in the world. Any retarded kid can get around a filter, shit my highschool had filters and EVERYONE knew how to get around it. Not even thinking of that, you may filter your kid at home but they can just go down the street to a friends and watch porn all they want. Even beyond that, they can go find a local whore, yes remmember all them easy girls when you were younger, to see a naked body. So when your kids are having sex at 12 and at 13 on morie because they want a baby so young, blaim your filtering asses.

Matt 26z · 06-29-2005, 11:23 AM

I disagree about your comments on filters.

They may not be able to get everything, but it would help big time if this industry was actually self regulating. How many sites have ICRA codes?

If everyone did this, then we could just turn around and tell everyone that our "adult signal" is there. Now you just need a filter program to pick it up if you want to protect your kids. Now the ball is suddenly on their side of the court.

smack · 06-29-2005, 11:29 AM

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"The private sector must provide a means for parents to guard their children from the proliferation of online smut. If Congress doesn't see a positive good-faith movement, we will consider regulatory solutions."

it is already out there, it is called fucking net nanny. i wish these fucking c u n t ass motherfuckers would wake up.

vvq · 06-29-2005, 11:30 AM

god forbid parents ever actually take responsibility for what their children view.

TGCashin, how goes the extortion charges?

The Bootyologist · 06-29-2005, 11:33 AM

just because parents are too dumb to use netnanny, that isn't my problem. sorry, you had the kids, you are in charge of controlling their access to the net. period.

SmokeyTheBear · 06-29-2005, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by TGCashin

?juveniles continue to be at risk of inadvertent exposure to pornographic images.? - Yeh... all the times that I was underage searching for the term "sex" i really ment to type "soccer" but my twitching made me type it incorrectly!.

I dont think thats quite what they mean..

They mean if someone searches for "olson twins" that isnt an adult term they are getting adult results..

Or "soccer" and getting "soccer sluts". And in this they are very right In both yahoo and google even with filters on they dont do a very good job of filtering out adult content ( and they could ). So why should programs like kazza and morpheous have to have searching filters if common search engines arent adhering to the same ethics..

But they are ALL completely missing the point..

You dont enforce filters on every website on the internet and every server to protect children , because it will never work.. You have to do it on a base level..

Kids shouldn't be on the internet PERIOD. They should be on limited networks of sites that are acceptable and thats it..

Yahoo or google just wouldnt be allowed or shouldnt be allowed by any children.. ( certainly not the way it works now ) . Imagine a small child who cant spell looking up GOATSES.. That would scar me for life if i was "8" and saw that shit..

pr0 · 06-29-2005, 11:36 AM

It's called putting the computer in the living room & unplugging it at night.

Whats the fucking problem govt?

Brujah · 06-29-2005, 11:36 AM

Gonna be a whole lotta .xxx filtering

Trax · 06-29-2005, 11:37 AM

i'm surprised a program called WAREZ does not have an adult filter
sad world

smack · 06-29-2005, 11:40 AM

my parents didn't want me looking at porn on the computer when i was younger either. so i would just go over my friends house, house mom didn't really care. however, i guess that much porn at the early age of 12 - 14 must have warped my mind, because now i'm a pervert who sells it. goddamnit, where was the government to save me from seeing naked breasts! oh the horror!

AmateurFlix · 06-29-2005, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by pr0

It's called putting the computer in the living room & unplugging it at night.

Whats the fucking problem govt?

exactly

the internet was created by adults for adults, not for kids

some irresponsible parents give their kids access to it and everybody else is supposed to cater to them?

JD · 06-29-2005, 11:42 AM

what's funny here is that people don't want to moniter their own kids. They want us to do it for them.

Heywood Jablome · 06-29-2005, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

Kids shouldn't be on the internet PERIOD. They should be on limited networks of sites that are acceptable and thats it..

Kids shouldn't drink, so they shouldn't be allowed in restaurants that serve alcohol, or in stores that sell beer. They also shouldn't watch tv PERIOD, or play video games PERIOD, or read newspapers PERIOD, or listen to music PERIOD, or ...

smack · 06-29-2005, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Heywood Jablome

Kids shouldn't drink, so they shouldn't be allowed in restaurants that serve alcohol, or in stores that sell beer. They also shouldn't watch tv PERIOD, or play video games PERIOD, or read newspapers PERIOD, or listen to music PERIOD, or ...

you have a point there. maybe some of them would develope some character ;]

06-29-2005, 11:30 AM	#4
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06-29-2005, 11:36 AM	#7
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06-29-2005, 11:40 AM	#10
smack Push Porn Like Weight. Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Inside .NET Posts: 10,652	my parents didn't want me looking at porn on the computer when i was younger either. so i would just go over my friends house, house mom didn't really care. however, i guess that much porn at the early age of 12 - 14 must have warped my mind, because now i'm a pervert who sells it. goddamnit, where was the government to save me from seeing naked breasts! oh the horror! __________________ Cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war.

06-29-2005, 11:23 AM	#2
Matt 26z So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: ¤ª"˜¨๑۩۞۩๑¨˜"ª¤ Posts: 18,481	I disagree about your comments on filters. They may not be able to get everything, but it would help big time if this industry was actually self regulating. How many sites have ICRA codes? If everyone did this, then we could just turn around and tell everyone that our "adult signal" is there. Now you just need a filter program to pick it up if you want to protect your kids. Now the ball is suddenly on their side of the court.

06-29-2005, 11:33 AM	#5
The Bootyologist So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: m00dville Posts: 2,912	just because parents are too dumb to use netnanny, that isn't my problem. sorry, you had the kids, you are in charge of controlling their access to the net. period.

06-29-2005, 11:37 AM	#9
Trax [----------------------] Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 14,486	i'm surprised a program called WAREZ does not have an adult filter sad world

06-29-2005, 11:42 AM	#12
JD Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 22,651	what's funny here is that people don't want to moniter their own kids. They want us to do it for them.