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Old 06-24-2005, 03:56 PM   #1
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So... non-US webmasters.. are you transfering your sites to non-US servers?

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Old 06-24-2005, 04:00 PM   #4
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and can some of you post good non-US hosts or US with foreign servers...

Need low-cost.. lots of bandwidth.. and quick set-up

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Yes, is seems you have to get a non_US host now to be more protected ...
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Excuse the newb question but I recently started a thread asking if hosting providers can be held liable under 2257 for the content hosted on their servers.Most answers said no, so why would a non-US webmaster move to non-US servers?
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Excuse the newb question but I recently started a thread asking if hosting providers can be held liable under 2257 for the content hosted on their servers.Most answers said no, so why would a non-US webmaster move to non-US servers?
Simple the HOST is immune. Doesn't mean the DOJ can't tell the US host to shut the site down. If you ran a CP site you host is immune from that too doesn't mean the government can't tell them to shut your CP site down. Why should a non-US webmaster risk getting his site shut down when it's just simpler to move his hosting to non-US hosting?
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Excuse the newb question but I recently started a thread asking if hosting providers can be held liable under 2257 for the content hosted on their servers.Most answers said no, so why would a non-US webmaster move to non-US servers?
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Simple the HOST is immune. Doesn't mean the DOJ can't tell the US host to shut the site down. If you ran a CP site you host is immune from that too doesn't mean the government can't tell them to shut your CP site down. Why should a non-US webmaster risk getting his site shut down when it's just simpler to move his hosting to non-US hosting?
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Simple the HOST is immune. Doesn't mean the DOJ can't tell the US host to shut the site down. If you ran a CP site you host is immune from that too doesn't mean the government can't tell them to shut your CP site down. Why should a non-US webmaster risk getting his site shut down when it's just simpler to move his hosting to non-US hosting?

What about the webmaster? Is hosting on a US server somehow makes him at risk for prosecution..?
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Talk to my hosting guys.
My server is practically in the building next to the Amsterdam internet exchange (ams-ix) lol. I've been hosting my 125k uniques 400k views a day website in Holland with them for 6 years straight with pretty much no downtime. They are not the cheapest on the market but certainly the best in webmaster support and understanding wemaster hosting needs.

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What about the webmaster? Is hosting on a US server somehow makes him at risk for prosecution..?
good question.
I would like to know that too for some time now.
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Physical location of server hdd is the deciding factor in this issue.

If you are a US citizen living in the US, it doesn't matter where you host, you are required by the law of the land where you live to comply with 2257, however, if you are a non US citizen, living outside of the US, and your hosting servers hdd are outside of the US, then you are immune to the regulations.
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Are those prices on your sig for managed servers?

How much per Gb overusage?

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Are those prices on your sig for managed servers?

How much per Gb overusage?

Do you have a site?
- Unmanaged ... Managed is more $$$ depending on plan. But the server comes readsy to go with all librairies installed.

- Over 2000 ???? well, 0.50/gig ...

- Yes, but it is geared towards mainstream hosting that I do thru my boxes in Clifton, NJ/
The 2257 just pushed me abit ...
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Initially just ensuring my US ones are softcore - but as the domains expire and I renew them, I will also be moving away from the US at that time.

Primarily as the new law there is just too much for me to work with, however, I think its going to get worse for you guys aswell - so forward planning would mean Holland for me.

As holland isnt a dictatorship.
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So... non-US webmasters.. are you transfering your sites to non-US servers?
Already had a couple of years ago - tho still got some non-adult servers in the US - but suspect they are gonna move shortly as well.

It's not just about 2257 - it's the bigger picture and the general "aura" in the US at the moment which is just not favorable to the adult trade (or much else!).

Now I appreciate shit I've been saying for years - never trust any one country with your business and operate in favorable locations where the laws are "suitable" for whatever biz you are in. It may be a pain in the ass sometimes, but being spread out over several countries is definately more secure/stable.

Where folks introduce laws as obstacle courses to enable politicians to look good is the start of shitdom. It's very hard to get any politician to reverse a law which would "aid" the porn industry - and all the more reason to see this amendment to 2257 killed stone dead.
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I moved our sexually explicit sites over to iWeb on the 22nd, I think it's better to be safe then sorry.

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I'm hosted on webair, they just got servers at Amsterdam and Canada.

webair are very big, their support was great for me, servers are fast..they are also not very expensive
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