OMG: U.S. Scientists Create Zombie Dogs - GoFuckYourself.com

Gateway69 · 06-27-2005, 02:43 PM

i saw this on /. today.. holy fuck..

Alex_Ionescu writes "U.S. scientists have managed to revive dead dogs to life, by using a technique similar to cryogenation, in which the dogs' blood was drained and replaced by a cold, saline liquid. A couple of hours, their blood was replaced, and an electric shock brought them back to life with no brain damage. The technology will be tested on humans within the next year."

http://science.slashdot.org/article....23259&from=rss

Paraskass · 06-27-2005, 02:45 PM

bush will ban this now.
it's fucking god's work.

LOL

Manowar · 06-27-2005, 02:48 PM

Holy fucking shit.

WICKED

tical · 06-27-2005, 02:48 PM

woah, thats crazy... i got some top secret pics from da gubment

jacked · 06-27-2005, 02:50 PM

thats pretty fucking shot didn't think they would be able to do anything of this sort for a long time

Machete_ · 06-27-2005, 02:55 PM

If you belive that, then I have a about 1000 feet tall steeltower for sale in Paris .. whats your best offer?-

MattO · 06-27-2005, 03:00 PM

It's not as though the fluid is bringing the dog back to life, what's happening is it's putting the dog's bodies into stasis, which after the blood is replaced, can be re-started.

Say if someone had a stroke or the like, they could quickly drain out their blood and replace it with the fluid, thus stopping any metabolism, while then being able to take their time fixing the problems.

BiggleJones · 06-27-2005, 03:02 PM

those scientists need a good PR firm....this pic doesnt put peoples mind at ease.

Adultnet · 06-27-2005, 03:05 PM

This sound like a since fiction

eroswebmaster · 06-27-2005, 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BiggleJones

those scientists need a good PR firm....this pic doesnt put peoples mind at ease.

LOL yeah makes you think it's going to be Pet Sematary all over.

Walt Disney is on the loose!!! Run!!!

BigRod · 06-27-2005, 03:07 PM

BiggleJones....fuck I love your sig that cracks me up

tical · 06-27-2005, 03:09 PM

anyone reg zombieporn.com yet?

boner 2.0 · 06-27-2005, 03:10 PM

Crazy shit...

S P A N N O W · 06-27-2005, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by BiggleJones

If they drained my blood, killed me and brought me back - I'd be mad too!

bringer · 06-27-2005, 03:21 PM

cool, maybe it'll be like pet cemetery

FilthyRob · 06-27-2005, 03:25 PM

Oh great, dead dogs coming back. I hope they don't do my old dog. She was a pain in the ass.

God rest her soul. :-)

Janet Reno · 06-27-2005, 03:27 PM

so if you kill your wife, then bring her back to life, can you be charged with murder?

sweetME · 06-27-2005, 03:29 PM

If it's true, that's crazy

Rui · 06-27-2005, 03:31 PM

Wicked, cant wait to see how this pans out

DWB · 06-27-2005, 03:40 PM

i don't know what to say. if that's true... oh shit.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 06-27-2005, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by bringer

cool, maybe it'll be like pet cemetery

Thats what I thought to.
I can not recall any animal being actually dead for 3 hours then smacked back into a living one. Blood draining and all with near zero molecular movement.

Fucker was dead as nails.

They bring it back, humm...

Lets see if the dogs the same

I never been a ghost and ghoul sorta thinker though, moe so along the science end. I can't wait to hear what religeon has to say about this one.

Machete_ · 06-27-2005, 04:43 PM

if your brain is without oxygen for more than 30 seconds, you are braindead. And NOTHING will kickstart a brain.. that is only in the movies that work. Your brain simply CAN NOT restart

= BULLSHIT story

a1ka1ine · 06-27-2005, 04:50 PM

ahahahah rofl. that picture has been selected by the news company surely, i cant believe the scientists would show such a picture to inspire confidence, unless they were pitching it to the military!

Code_Havoc · 06-27-2005, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Janet Reno

so if you kill your wife, then bring her back to life, can you be charged with murder?

Oh I hope not.

hottoddy · 06-27-2005, 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gateway69

OMG: U.S. Scientists Create Zombie Dogs

... and Arabs are scared to death of dogs. You do the math.

GatorB · 06-27-2005, 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gateway69

i saw this on /. today.. holy fuck..

Alex_Ionescu writes "U.S. scientists have managed to revive dead dogs to life, by using a technique similar to cryogenation, in which the dogs' blood was drained and replaced by a cold, saline liquid. A couple of hours, their blood was replaced, and an electric shock brought them back to life with no brain damage. The technology will be tested on humans within the next year."

http://science.slashdot.org/article....23259&from=rss

I saw on TV over 10 years ago where they did this with a beagle.

Dagwolf · 06-27-2005, 05:34 PM

iwantchixx · 06-27-2005, 05:46 PM

whoa, this is creepy. it could lead to keeping people alive a lot longer though and to cryo-freezing that actually works.

GatorB · 06-27-2005, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by iwantchixx

whoa, this is creepy. it could lead to keeping people alive a lot longer though and to cryo-freezing that actually works.

Except in this case the person still has to be LIVING when they start the process. How many are going to risk that?

Spunky · 06-27-2005, 05:54 PM

That is amaizing technology these days

The Bootyologist · 06-27-2005, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by ebus_dk

if your brain is without oxygen for more than 30 seconds, you are braindead. And NOTHING will kickstart a brain.. that is only in the movies that work. Your brain simply CAN NOT restart

= BULLSHIT story

that's not true, you can go longer than 30 seconds without oxygen and not suffer braindamage. where do you get his crap?

"within 5-10 minutes without oxygen or nutrient, degenerative processes begin in the brain"

sniperwolf · 06-27-2005, 06:01 PM

that's too much playing Resident Evil...

The Bootyologist · 06-27-2005, 06:04 PM

The 10 minute limit is for slow suffocation at normal temperatures. Two things happen:

- First, many of the tiny valves controlling the distribution of blood in the brain capilaries shut, trying to route the remaining oxygen to the neurons controlling things like breathing and heart rate.

These valves are tiny muscles, which, once contracted, require power (from metabolization) to reopen. Let them be oxygen-starved for too long - about ten minutes - and they get stuck closed. Then, even once oxygen is restored, the blood remains cut off to the areas they control. (It does no good to raise the blood pressure to try to force blood past them: You'll blow the plumbing before they leak. Massive stroke.)

- Second: As with the muscles, the neurons have continuous chemical reactions going on that cause damage that must be cleaned up by active, powered, systems. Turn down the oxygen while leaving the temperature up and the cleanup systems fail while the damage mechanisms continue. (Firing the nerve uses up additional power, making the problem worse.)

Let this go on for more than half an hour or so without turning the air back on and the damage gets ahead of the nerve's ability to repair it - causing cell death. That ruptures the cell and releases a glutamate - which tends to force other nearby nerves to fire, consuming their resources and speeding their death, in the "glutamate chain reaction". This easily gets started in regions of the brain fed by still-shut-off plumbing. But with enough glutimate dumped it can spread to nearby areas that have adequate oxygen - because it's not adequate to keep ahead of the massive firing and cell exhaustion.

The first mechanism sets the normal time limit. But the second is the final catastrophe.

But diving sets up a condition much like suffocation upon resurfacing: Swimming underwater pressurizes the gas in the lungs, and the organism can remain active for some time before it starts to run out of oxygen. But then it takes time to get back to the surface - and the lowered pressure on the ascent causes oxygen levels in the blood and tissue to crash. Not good.

Evolution came up with a workaround: The "mamilian diving reflex", so called because it's characteristic of all mamals - happened a LONG time back.

When the reflex detects a deep dive (cold on the skin - especially on the back of the neck, I think), it modifies the valves' reaction to overall oxygen shortage: Instead of shutting off blood to "unimportant" (for respiration) parts of the brain, it causes ALL the valves to OPEN. Then if they stick they stick open. This risks speeding respiratory failure. But once (if) oxygen is restored, it allows it to reach ALL the brain. Get oxygen back before the cells start dying (after a half hour or so) and they all get the power they nead to clean up and get on with life.

So if you drown in COLD water you can be breathing-stopped for a half-hour or a bit more and still be restarted with no long-term brain damage.

This treatment seems to extend on that: Flooding with cold saline will activate the diving reflex, sticking the valves open. Then the rapid oxygen loss will shut down all energy-driven metabolism - both the repair and some of the damage-makers.

Meanwhile, the deep cooling of the tissue (to essentially refrigerator temperatures) will slow the other damaging chemical reactions, just as refrigeration slows meat spoilage. (It IS slowing meat spoilage! And 7C is about 45F, close to the 40F recommended for refrigerator settings.) This is probably the main factor in getting past the half-hour limit on cold-drowning.

reynold · 06-27-2005, 06:13 PM

Well, it's indeed a miracle since Brain will deteriorate without oxygens on it..

Machete_ · 06-28-2005, 01:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bootyologist

that's not true, you can go longer than 30 seconds without oxygen and not suffer braindamage. where do you get his crap?

"within 5-10 minutes without oxygen or nutrient, degenerative processes begin in the brain"

I SAID YOUR BRAIN . not YOU !!!
Read up on it before you try to slam me

BiggleJones · 06-28-2005, 01:29 AM

Good thing we have so many scientists in this thread to prove the story wrong.

Where else are you gonna find people that are Scientists by day and pornographers by night?

V_RocKs · 06-28-2005, 01:57 AM

There are no Cujo's here in this thread and GFY is particularely safe from Cujo at this time.

ImaHogg · 06-28-2005, 02:27 AM

And what is Sleazy's involvement in this experiment?

VeriSexy · 06-28-2005, 02:55 AM

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Originally Posted by hottoddy

... and Arabs are scared to death of dogs. You do the math.

Good one

kenny · 06-28-2005, 03:14 AM

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117...-13762,00.html

kenny · 06-28-2005, 03:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BiggleJones

those scientists need a good PR firm....this pic doesnt put peoples mind at ease.

emthree · 06-28-2005, 03:28 AM

No way the US would allow such shit to be done here.
Unless it was a test controled by the govt.

nico-t · 06-28-2005, 07:31 AM

sounds pretty cool

Phoenix · 06-28-2005, 07:35 AM

we can enslave some people and send them to mars to do work..they can rest in stasis for the trip

HpicAnn · 06-28-2005, 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by eroswebmaster

LOL yeah makes you think it's going to be Pet Sematary all over.

Walt Disney is on the loose!!! Run!!!

I was thinking in Pet Sematary too.. its creepy

LittleSassy · 06-28-2005, 07:50 AM

we need jill in the resident evil...

The Bootyologist · 06-28-2005, 07:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ebus_dk

I SAID YOUR BRAIN . not YOU !!!
Read up on it before you try to slam me

im talking about the brain too. which is why i said, "brain damage" and "brain".

The Bootyologist · 06-28-2005, 07:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ebus_dk

I SAID YOUR BRAIN . not YOU !!!
Read up on it before you try to slam me

Quote:

Originally Posted by ebus_dk

if your brain is without oxygen for more than 30 seconds, you are braindead. And NOTHING will kickstart a brain.. that is only in the movies that work. Your brain simply CAN NOT restart

= BULLSHIT story

Maybe you care to explain how your statement is correct?

sickkittens · 06-28-2005, 08:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BiggleJones

those scientists need a good PR firm....this pic doesnt put peoples mind at ease.

What are you talking about? That dog looks friendly to me.

Vitasoy · 06-28-2005, 08:38 AM

Whoa... that is pretty crazy.

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The Bootyologist So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: m00dville Posts: 2,912	The 10 minute limit is for slow suffocation at normal temperatures. Two things happen: - First, many of the tiny valves controlling the distribution of blood in the brain capilaries shut, trying to route the remaining oxygen to the neurons controlling things like breathing and heart rate. These valves are tiny muscles, which, once contracted, require power (from metabolization) to reopen. Let them be oxygen-starved for too long - about ten minutes - and they get stuck closed. Then, even once oxygen is restored, the blood remains cut off to the areas they control. (It does no good to raise the blood pressure to try to force blood past them: You'll blow the plumbing before they leak. Massive stroke.) - Second: As with the muscles, the neurons have continuous chemical reactions going on that cause damage that must be cleaned up by active, powered, systems. Turn down the oxygen while leaving the temperature up and the cleanup systems fail while the damage mechanisms continue. (Firing the nerve uses up additional power, making the problem worse.) Let this go on for more than half an hour or so without turning the air back on and the damage gets ahead of the nerve's ability to repair it - causing cell death. That ruptures the cell and releases a glutamate - which tends to force other nearby nerves to fire, consuming their resources and speeding their death, in the "glutamate chain reaction". This easily gets started in regions of the brain fed by still-shut-off plumbing. But with enough glutimate dumped it can spread to nearby areas that have adequate oxygen - because it's not adequate to keep ahead of the massive firing and cell exhaustion. The first mechanism sets the normal time limit. But the second is the final catastrophe. But diving sets up a condition much like suffocation upon resurfacing: Swimming underwater pressurizes the gas in the lungs, and the organism can remain active for some time before it starts to run out of oxygen. But then it takes time to get back to the surface - and the lowered pressure on the ascent causes oxygen levels in the blood and tissue to crash. Not good. Evolution came up with a workaround: The "mamilian diving reflex", so called because it's characteristic of all mamals - happened a LONG time back. When the reflex detects a deep dive (cold on the skin - especially on the back of the neck, I think), it modifies the valves' reaction to overall oxygen shortage: Instead of shutting off blood to "unimportant" (for respiration) parts of the brain, it causes ALL the valves to OPEN. Then if they stick they stick open. This risks speeding respiratory failure. But once (if) oxygen is restored, it allows it to reach ALL the brain. Get oxygen back before the cells start dying (after a half hour or so) and they all get the power they nead to clean up and get on with life. So if you drown in COLD water you can be breathing-stopped for a half-hour or a bit more and still be restarted with no long-term brain damage. This treatment seems to extend on that: Flooding with cold saline will activate the diving reflex, sticking the valves open. Then the rapid oxygen loss will shut down all energy-driven metabolism - both the repair and some of the damage-makers. Meanwhile, the deep cooling of the tissue (to essentially refrigerator temperatures) will slow the other damaging chemical reactions, just as refrigeration slows meat spoilage. (It IS slowing meat spoilage! And 7C is about 45F, close to the 40F recommended for refrigerator settings.) This is probably the main factor in getting past the half-hour limit on cold-drowning.

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