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Old 06-26-2005, 09:00 AM   #1
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I could never marry a vegetarian

Without fail every girl I've been with who has been a vegetarian has turned out to be a miserable controlling bitch. It's as if their need to control their own diet and their own little world isn't enough for them, they all had the irresistable urge to make my diet their mission to control too.

A few, as I recall, would talk a good game in the beginning, saying stuff such as they are fine with anyone else eating meat and that they are only concerned with what they themselves eat.... but this always proved false. I always invariably got the old "How can you eat that?" and "If you knew how that was killed you wouldn't eat that" or "Are you really gonna eat that?" and other usual bullshit. Usually each remark came coupled with a curled up lip full of attitude.

What none of them seemed to grasp is that I like my steak, chicken, fish, turkey, ham, roast beef, burgers, hot dogs, smokies, sausages, bacon, pork chops, salami, seafood, eggs, milk, cheese, etc etc. It is hard enough for me to accept the fact that with a vegetarian girlfriend I would not be able to enjoy a barbecue the same way as I would with a woman with a non-vegetarian appetite. To me that in itself is a big sacrifice, but on occasion I was willing to try at least.... but sadly they can't be happy munching their rabbit food and just shutting up about what others do.

One such bitch would not only snipe and pick at me for what I ate, but while in restaurants she would sit there and criticize what strangers were ordering too. In fact, she was the last one I ever went out with, which was over 10 years ago. Since then, whenever a woman tells me she's a vegetarian, sorry but no matter how nice or how genuine she seems, I'm out of there.

Give me a woman who loves a good well-rounded meal complete with meat, one who isn't a goddammed fussbudget about everything. If there were more vegetarians out there who could just be happy with their own grazing and not so insecure about what normal people eat this post would not be here. And yes, it IS normal for humans to have meat as part of their diet.

And spare me about how not all vegetarians are like this. I'm sure there are a few exceptional people out there, that's not what I'm saying here. I'm saying that every single one that I have been out with or in a relationship with over the past 20+ years has been this way to some degree. Argue all you want but that's the way it is.
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Old 06-26-2005, 09:02 AM   #2
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Oh, CD. We are omnivores, which, as you know, means our bodies were meant to accept meat and vegetables and fruits. Semen has protein, so that's included, too.

Vegetarian women...well, not all are control freaks...but, since you are carnivourous, stick with a woman who has, at least, that in common with you!
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but, since you are carnivourous,
No, I'm omnivorous. I don't know anyone who eats only meat and animal by-products. I eat a very wide range of fruit, vegetables, whole grains, breads, cereals etc. I have a side of veggies at just about every dinner, fruit or fruit juces during the day, grains, grain bread or oatmeal on most mornings... my diet is well-rounded actually.

But there's nothing like a good steak once in a while. A nice barbecue is an enjoyable thing to me, and it's something worth sharing with someone like-minded. Same with alcohol actually.... I find myself preferring to be with someone who has no stupid hangups about enjoying the odd glass of wine or a beer or cocktail at dinner.

But I'd sooner be with a non-drinker than I would a vegetarian. :D
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It's pathetic that vegetarians always have the urge to force their eating habits on others. It's not I'm forcing my meat eating habit, or say my green tea drinking habit on them, even though it might be healty or nutricious.

I wouldn't go as far as never dating a woman with a vegetarian preference. You have to be careful not to become the same kind of person, although on the other side of the fence.
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I wouldn't go as far as never dating a woman with a vegetarian preference.
As I said, I've dated several.
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As I said, I've dated several.
Or marrying, for that matter.
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Most vegetarians are merely "look at me" type people. They are simple and self-absorbed. They feel special by adopting this lifestyle and then subsequently forcing it upon others. It is actually quite pathetic.

I could never be with a chick that didn't like a little meat in her mouth.
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what abt vegans,,,,lol
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It's pathetic that vegetarians always have the urge to force their eating habits on others.
I wouldn't say always. Generally those who try to force it upon others are vegetarian for animal rights activism, not for health reasons. I am a vegetarian and although I will offer people tips if they are interested I couldn't care less if they ate raw meat out of the package right in front of me. I also have no problem with cooking it for others and I have friends who will tell you I cook a mean chicken and steak
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I wouldn't go as far as never dating a woman with a vegetarian preference. You have to be careful not to become the same kind of person, although on the other side of the fence.
You almost slipped over that fence yourself with your first sentence
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Without fail every girl I've been with who has been a vegetarian has turned out to be a miserable controlling bitch. It's as if their need to control their own diet and their own little world isn't enough for them, they all had the irresistable urge to make my diet their mission to control too.

A few, as I recall, would talk a good game in the beginning, saying stuff such as they are fine with anyone else eating meat and that they are only concerned with what they themselves eat.... but this always proved false. I always invariably got the old "How can you eat that?" and "If you knew how that was killed you wouldn't eat that" or "Are you really gonna eat that?" and other usual bullshit. Usually each remark came coupled with a curled up lip full of attitude.

What none of them seemed to grasp is that I like my steak, chicken, fish, turkey, ham, roast beef, burgers, hot dogs, smokies, sausages, bacon, pork chops, salami, seafood, eggs, milk, cheese, etc etc. It is hard enough for me to accept the fact that with a vegetarian girlfriend I would not be able to enjoy a barbecue the same way as I would with a woman with a non-vegetarian appetite. To me that in itself is a big sacrifice, but on occasion I was willing to try at least.... but sadly they can't be happy munching their rabbit food and just shutting up about what others do.

One such bitch would not only snipe and pick at me for what I ate, but while in restaurants she would sit there and criticize what strangers were ordering too. In fact, she was the last one I ever went out with, which was over 10 years ago. Since then, whenever a woman tells me she's a vegetarian, sorry but no matter how nice or how genuine she seems, I'm out of there.

Give me a woman who loves a good well-rounded meal complete with meat, one who isn't a goddammed fussbudget about everything. If there were more vegetarians out there who could just be happy with their own grazing and not so insecure about what normal people eat this post would not be here. And yes, it IS normal for humans to have meat as part of their diet.

And spare me about how not all vegetarians are like this. I'm sure there are a few exceptional people out there, that's not what I'm saying here. I'm saying that every single one that I have been out with or in a relationship with over the past 20+ years has been this way to some degree. Argue all you want but that's the way it is.
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Vegetarian women...well, not all are control freaks...but, since you are carnivourous, stick with a woman who has, at least, that in common with you!
Nah, just find one that can cook a killer roast and let you eat all of it
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I'm SUCH an omnivore. I love meat and I like veggies and fruit, too. I don't even WANt to imagine going through life without meat. YUCK.
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This reminds me of that simpsons epised:

At a family day out at "Storytown Village," Lisa is deeply moved by her encounter with a baby lamb at the petting zoo area. Upon returning home from their family excursion, Homer plans to outdo his neighbour Ned Flanders by throwing a BBQ bash. Over a supper of lamb chops at which the plans for the BBQ are discussed, Lisa associates her dinner with the baby lamb at the petting zoo: "I can't eat this. I can't eat a poor little lamb," to which her father Homer responds, "Lisa get a hold of yourself. This is lamb, not a lamb." Lisa's mother offers chicken breast, rump roast and hot dogs but Lisa replies, "No, I can't. I can't eat any of them."

Homer: Are you saying you're never going to eat any animal again? What about bacon?
Lisa: No.
Homer: Ham?
Lisa: No.
Homer: Pork chops?
Lisa: Dad, those all come from the same animal.
Homer: Heh heh heh. Ooh, yeah, right, Lisa. A wonderful, magical animal.
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I am in process of changing my girl back into a meat eater. I have got her to eat fish a few times. She drools over the meat I eat all the time. I give her another year max and she'll be eating meat.
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Homer: Marge, since I'm not talking to Lisa, could you please ask her to pass me the syrup?
Marge: Please pass your father the syrup, Lisa.
Lisa: Bart, tell dad I'll only pass the syrup if it won't be used on any meat products.
Bart: You dunkin your sausages in that syrup, Home boy?
Homer: Marge, tell Bart I just want to drink a nice glass of syrup like I do every morning.
Marge: Tell him yourself, you're ignoring Lisa, not Bart.
Homer: Bart thank your mother for pointing that out.
Marge: Homer, you're not not talking to me, and secondly, I heard what you said.
Homer: Lisa, tell your mother to get off my case.
Bart: Ah, dad, Lisa's the one you're not talking to,
Homer: Bart, go to your room!
Lisa: Why don't you just eat him.
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Old 06-26-2005, 10:34 AM   #16
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don't give up on vegetarian women.

truth is, people on mostly vegetarian diets will look better, live longer, and be healthier than people who eats lots of red meat.

yes, the downside is you might have to listen to a little philosophical horseshit.

but go take a walk in any mall in america---more than 50% of the women over 25 are unfuckable due to overweight issues. i often play a game with myself and sit in the mall and watch the women go by, and mentally think of which women are attractive enought to fuck in the age range 25 and up.

and sometimes i can go 30 minutes looking at hundreds of women and not see anything that i could bone.

and most of the guys also are overweight who are meat eaters---they don't think they are, but they are. all guys should have a flat belly, and it is possible to do mostly with some diet and exercise at ANY age.

if you really want to fuck a hard body chick for many years, don't fight it if she wants to be a vegetarian---or get old and fat with her like the majority of folks in the west.

but WTF do i know. i am age 55, with a BMI of 21, and a 19 year old hard body wife.

(and i also eat some meat, mostly fish and chicken)
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Most vegetarians are merely "look at me" type people. They are simple and self-absorbed. They feel special by adopting this lifestyle and then subsequently forcing it upon others. It is actually quite pathetic.

I could never be with a chick that didn't like a little meat in her mouth.
That is true. Also vegetarians and normally spoiled wrotten little fucks. I was taught to be happy we had food on our table at all. Now they are refusing to eat the hard cooked meal because they want some losers to think they are cool and have a twisted prespective on reality.
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My last relationship was 10 years with someone who loved a high meat diet.

While I don't eat meat I do eat occasional seafood. When we would have a barbeque the steaks, ribs, chicken etc would go on the grill for him and others, while I would toss on fish, shrimp skewers, mushrooms, etc. They would also snarf down my various vegetarian dishes, rave about them and marvel at the fact that they were meat-free.

He also was a sweets famatic and had deserts at the end of nearly every meal (sometimes for him desert was the meal). I really don't like sweets, especially after eating other food. That was never an issue either.

If eating habits are an issue in a relationship chances are it's just an easy outlet for other issues (with the exception of the militant activist types, who really shouldn't even attempt a relationship with non-kind)
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no never, I like my meat and chicken too much!

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truth is, people on mostly vegetarian diets will look better, live longer, and be healthier than people who eats lots of red meat.
I'm not looking for someone who "eats a lot of red meat" either. Where did you get that notion from?

As I said...my diet is well-rounded. I will add here that when I do eat meat, I choose lean cuts, lean or extra-lean ground beef, and I trim the excess fat off of everything else. I not only eat red meats but a lot of chicken and pork and fish etc etc.

Variety.

It is my experience that people with a varied sensible diet that includes food from every group including lean meat will be healthier or just as healthy as anyone can be.

As for speaking up for the cause of vegetarian women, forget it. I've tried and have done my time down that road. No sale. I see that as settling for less, actually. I prefer being around women who, like Tala said above, have no hangups about sharing a good meal and enjoying it WITH me. I've never met a vegan or vegetarian woman would could maintain her composure and keep her mouth shut about my diet for long.

It is what it is.
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That is true. Also vegetarians and normally spoiled wrotten little fucks. I was taught to be happy we had food on our table at all. Now they are refusing to eat the hard cooked meal because they want some losers to think they are cool and have a twisted prespective on reality.
My older relatives that were around during the depression were practically vegetarian all their lives because a typical meal as a child for them consisted of peas/beans, squash, okra, greens or various other vegetables they grew themselves and ate with cornbread (meal being one of the few things they would need to buy at market). Although they might have slaughtered an occasional animal, their chickens were primarily for eggs and their cows for milk and their low-meat diet carried on into their adult life as a preference even when meat was freely available. My grandmother to this day would rather eat a bowl of beans and/or greens with cornbread and slices of tomato & onion at holiday time when my mom has laid out the spread that includes various meats and starchy dishes.
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I've never met a vegan or vegetarian woman would could maintain her composure and keep her mouth shut about my diet for long.

It is what it is.
Is it possible you are meeting shallow women to begin with?
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I wouldn't mind a vegetarian. Vegetarian food is good and it's good to mix and match
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Is it possible you are meeting shallow women to begin with?
Out of every 10 women I've met over the years, a few have been shallow in one way or another, yes. That's probably true of anyone's experience over time actually.

But the fact that 100% of the vegetarian women I've met have fallen into the shallow/insecure category speaks volumes about those people, in general of course.

I can only base my opinion on my own experience, after all.

And I did say above that I am sure there are exceptions out there. Possibly you are one such example, I don't know. From your posts here it sounds as though you are pretty laid back about it, which is a good thing in my view.

No, I've been fortunate to have met other women, non-vegetarians, who have been of a whole different flavor when it comes to food and the good and simple pleasures in life. Very fortunate, actually. :D
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I've actually turned 2 ex girlfriends that were vegetarians into meat eaters. I am immune to all their food related comments... and I am a really good cook. First it's all, here have a bite out of my steak, and I'll have some of your food... then it's oh I'll make you your own very small steak.
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agreed, i really do not trust anyone who is a vegatarian, imo there must be something wrong with you to not ever eat meat.

i need a woman who i can take out to dinner throw a big slab of meat on her plate and have her scarf it down, it almost seems unhuman to do otherwise.

i also agree that they are self absorbed, there is always something else screwd with them that makes them feel they cannot eat meat, probably some kind of brain disorder.
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From your posts here it sounds as though you are pretty laid back about it, which is a good thing in my view.
Where one is probably has a lot to do with it. My experience has been that a good number of other vegetarians I have met had similar backgrounds, their families grew up poor in the south during the depression so the foods I mentioned above were staples their parents grew up with and continued to eat into adulthood.

I think it's the "comfort food" thing. Most of us reach back to our childhood for it
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I've actually turned 2 ex girlfriends that were vegetarians into meat eaters. I am immune to all their food related comments... and I am a really good cook. First it's all, here have a bite out of my steak, and I'll have some of your food... then it's oh I'll make you your own very small steak.
Trust me on this, some of the women I've met who were vegetarians would sooner roast you alive and feed you to their cats than allow you to "convert" them to eating meat. You obviously haven't been with any staunch veg heads yet.

One day you might, and then you'll be in for a rude awakening.
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Just start slipping her various meat products for a few months, then tell her about it
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I am Hindu so I was born vegetarian. I learned to eat meat. Sometimes being a vegetarian isn't a something you want to be but a cultural and religious issue. I can and do eat meat and vegetables.
I think the women you are with are trying to change you Cdsmith and that is always a bad idea. I don't understand why women want to change a man once they start going out with him. This is where all the problems start, if they would just be happy and accept the differences, we would all be happier.

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Old 06-26-2005, 02:04 PM   #32
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ever serious relationship i've had has been with veggies. no idea why. i brought the last one over to the dark side within about 9 months of of dating though
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Old 06-26-2005, 02:13 PM   #33
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I've recently been getting quite acquainted with this guy who is a vegetarian. For him it's not a animal cruetly issue. I really honestly don't completely get WHY... But man I've never even been around anyone who's a vegetarian so I have no idea what I'd do to prepare for ever inviting him to a barbeque.

I've actually found myself noticing more and more how judgemental we can get with out generalizations about it. I think he actually eats a way more broad spectrum of foods that I do because I don't really do seafood and I'm not huge on my veggies either.

I remember when he first told me about it, he's kind of a big guy, I thought "Shit you must eat alot of lettuce" I dunno it's funny though that this thread is here today cuz I've been kinda educating myself on this.
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Old 06-26-2005, 02:25 PM   #34
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Just start slipping her various meat products for a few months, then tell her about it
I would strongly advise against this.
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so I have no idea what I'd do to prepare for ever inviting him to a barbeque.
Ask him what he would like and invite him to bring any special dishes he would like.

You just might find a new favorite
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Old 06-26-2005, 07:28 PM   #36
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I agree with you 100 % I love beef too much to ever give it up. Beef,it's what's for dinner
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Old 06-26-2005, 07:37 PM   #37
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My boyfriend is semi-vegitarian. He is not completely veg because he does eat meat sometimes such as chicken or beef. He always eats salmon though.

He doesn't do it because he cares about the animals, because he doesn't, but because he claims he doesn't feel good after eating chicken or beef and that it gives him a headache.

But it's true what you say about vegetarians being picky and controlling. My bf doesn't care what I eat, I eat whatever I want, but he is EXTREMELY picky about his food. He says he wants to buy food over the internet DIRECTLY from the supplier because it is not fresh enough from the store. He says that after the vegetables leave the soil, the longer you wait the less fresh it is, so he wants to minimize the time that it leaves the soil before he eats it

Plus he refuses to eat generic brand food. It always has to be the most expensive brands and organic foods only. Even when he didn't have a job and no money he would refuse using cheap brands, only the best for him... Plus he always has to use olive oil, God forbid it's canola oil or something like that...

Plus he is so anal, always reading the ingredients of everything he buys. He even refuses to use regular soap from the store, it can only be soap with "all-natural" ingredients such as tea tree and no artificial ingredients.

So so so soooooo picky....
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Old 06-27-2005, 03:50 AM   #38
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Better find someone who has food preference similar to you..
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Old 06-27-2005, 03:56 AM   #39
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I wouldn't say always. Generally those who try to force it upon others are vegetarian for animal rights activism, not for health reasons. I am a vegetarian and although I will offer people tips if they are interested I couldn't care less if they ate raw meat out of the package right in front of me. I also have no problem with cooking it for others and I have friends who will tell you I cook a mean chicken and steak
You almost slipped over that fence yourself with your first sentence
You are right. I shouldn't say always. Although this occurs with women vegetarians more often than with men vegetarians.
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Old 06-27-2005, 04:08 AM   #40
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good post CD

If you are vegetarian, fine, I will respect anyone's personal choice.

Just dont ram your principles down my fucking throat is all
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Better find someone who has food preference similar to you..
exactly...u gotta be enjoying the same food at the same time
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or you can eat her alive...hahaha
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vegetarians normally have bad ass gas
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^ thats about me....i'll eat anything if it tastes good, although pussy never tasted the same after i had sushi, & now i prefer just sushi
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I usually say vegetarians are cowards. Animals have a chance to fight back/run away, plants can't move =0

Hardcore meat haters get really upset at that heh...
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being a vegeterian is a only childhood & stupitly thinks.
fuck all of them.
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I had baby back ribs last night, St. Louis cut, smothered in barbecue sauce with a smattering of tabasco.

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I made it 9 years vegetarian. Just recently took the plunge and started eating fish.
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