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Old 06-25-2005, 12:52 PM   #1
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So a buyer threatens me with legal action

About once every six months I come across a newbie that is a total asshat, has no clue what he is doing and blames all his problems on me. This guy wins the award for 2005 so far......


2005-06-25 08:16:58 hotteenthongs->Choker Your traffic is very poor quality. In compliance with UCC 2207 you are hereby notified to rectify the situation or return the money to my credit card. Failure to comply will result in legal action...


2005-06-25 12:43:42 Choker->hotteenthongs I can refund what is left on your account, NOT what you already got. It is not my fault you ordered no cookie traffic. You will not recieve a refund of what you already recieved from me. to say you are not satisfied with the quality of no cookie is pretty absurd considering you have no way to track it's productivity on your site. That's like ordering a ppv movie on your cable then refusing to pay for it because it was not as good as you thought it would be. That is fraud on YOUR part. I do not appreciate being threatened with legal action. Now in compliance with UCC 2207 why don't you tell me exactly how you would like me to rectify the "situation"?..


2005-06-25 14:24:54 hotteenthongs->Choker I payed for 2000 hits from assisass.com, i recieved 58 unique visitors, of which 13 let the page load. This is not as described on your webpage. I would accept a refund for all remaining traffic owned, and all balance funds, as well as 50% refund of the assisass traffic that i payed for and did not recieve...

2005-06-25 14:50:37 Choker->hotteenthongs actually you recieved 902 hits from assiss. I see you are tracking traffic from clickz? you ordered and recieved 1000 hits of no cookie , guess you did not know that clickz does not track no cookie traffic did ya? I went ahead and refunded all of your payment, I do not have time to deal with someone who blames their incompetance on others. http://chokertraffic.com/public/tabs.php?t=5 seems that assis has many buyers and they all give him high ratings, think it is a little funny how ONLY you have problems with his traffic? Here's a little advice for you....Next time you have a problem with ANYONE try being nice instead of threatening legal action first. Especially considering that you have no clue what you are doing. I hope you enjoy your career in the fast food industry...


I have ALWAYS offered a no questions money back guarantee on unused funds. I even allow buyers to try even less than a 1000 hits . If it does no good for them they can get the remaining balance back. I never ever STICK someone with a product they do not want. But to threaten me like this jsut boils my blood
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Thing is if he had been nice I would have credited him all the money he had used for traffic so far and then helped him get a real counter on his site and advised him what niches would work with his site. I do not always have the time over icq to go into detail with buyers, but when they message me thru ctts I take as much time as is needed to help guys out.
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Old 06-25-2005, 12:59 PM   #4
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Old 06-25-2005, 01:01 PM   #5
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So are you gonna refund Sleazy's money or what?
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That is funny...

#1 No cookie traffic is untrackable.
#2 He ordered hits from a MGP to his shitty TGP????

WTF???? Why would someone order hits from an MGP to their TGP?

What a fucking ASSHAT!

I have used assisass's traffic for an MGP and can say that it converts and bookmarks if you have a quality site you are feeding it into.

CLickz? Who the fuck uses them for trading traffic. Only an ASSHAT would.

I promptly cancel trades who signup and use that shitty tracking crap. Otherwise I get people saying, HEY, you aren't sending me back as much as I am sending you.

#1 I am sending them, your shitty software just can't count for shit.
#2 half of your sent surfers are coming in as clickz domain so fuck off and stop using a 3rd party tracking software for a trade script.

I'd have told the fucker to go to hell and learn how to buy traffic.
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Old 06-25-2005, 03:30 PM   #7
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ummmmm..... This was all over about 2k hits which was what... about $10???
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Old 06-25-2005, 03:36 PM   #8
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ummmmm..... This was all over about 2k hits which was what... about $10???

thats what i was thinking ???
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ummmmm..... This was all over about 2k hits which was what... about $10???
Less, since he ordered nocookie traffic.
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Ohh shit..thats alot of cash!
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Old 06-25-2005, 03:48 PM   #11
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Just pay back his $10 or whatever and bann him for the rest of his life.
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Old 06-25-2005, 03:58 PM   #12
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He sounds like the type of guy who will complain to a sponsor that he didn't get a check, even thought he hasen't reached the min payout in 8 months.
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Old 06-25-2005, 04:04 PM   #13
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He's going to sue over less than ten bucks?

Shit, I will never sue anyone over less than $20 :D


Choker, you should have sued this joker back to the stoneage for harrassment, on the principle of the matter. (that's what AaronM would have done)

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$8 for traffic. $7 after processing, $5 to the site that brings it.

Refund the bitch his $2
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Choker, you should have sued this joker back to the stoneage for harrassment, on the principle of the matter. (that's what AaronM would have done)
Setting a precident that any whiney little bitch that needs some cash back to go buy his Happy Meal (he loves the free toys obviously) at McDs can threaten and make you refund is not a good idea.. Make him waste some cash on a lawyer and then refund his money...
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Old 06-25-2005, 05:00 PM   #16
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You rock Choker and so does your traffic....


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ummmmm..... This was all over about 2k hits which was what... about $10???
$1.50 for the nocookie traffic and $5.25 for the other, so $6.75 total. His payment was only $25, it is not worth the hassle of calling into MVC to have them do a partial refund, so I just refunded his whole $25. Don't get me wrong, I am not a newbie basher, I do go out of my way to help newbies. But this guy's attitude is just too much.
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Because, I'ma look up and sue the fucker who took my lunch money back in the third grade. Took my .55 cents and I had to go without my beloved chocolate milk that day.
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Hell I was promised that your traffic would convert at BETTER than 1 in 1

I want all your money back!
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$1.50 for the nocookie traffic and $5.25 for the other, so $6.75 total. His payment was only $25, it is not worth the hassle of calling into MVC to have them do a partial refund, so I just refunded his whole $25. Don't get me wrong, I am not a newbie basher, I do go out of my way to help newbies. But this guy's attitude is just too much.
He's a fucktard, plain and simple.

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$1.50 for the nocookie traffic and $5.25 for the other, so $6.75 total. His payment was only $25, it is not worth the hassle of calling into MVC to have them do a partial refund, so I just refunded his whole $25. Don't get me wrong, I am not a newbie basher, I do go out of my way to help newbies. But this guy's attitude is just too much.
It's unbelievable, man. Legal action over $25, what did that guy smoke?
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He cried over $25? WTF? LOL.
Hey, at least it worked though! Remind me to try this one day. :D
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About once every six months I come across a newbie that is a total asshat, has no clue what he is doing and blames all his problems on me. This guy wins the award for 2005 so far......


2005-06-25 08:16:58 hotteenthongs->Choker Your traffic is very poor quality. In compliance with UCC 2207 you are hereby notified to rectify the situation or return the money to my credit card. Failure to comply will result in legal action...


2005-06-25 12:43:42 Choker->hotteenthongs I can refund what is left on your account, NOT what you already got. It is not my fault you ordered no cookie traffic. You will not recieve a refund of what you already recieved from me. to say you are not satisfied with the quality of no cookie is pretty absurd considering you have no way to track it's productivity on your site. That's like ordering a ppv movie on your cable then refusing to pay for it because it was not as good as you thought it would be. That is fraud on YOUR part. I do not appreciate being threatened with legal action. Now in compliance with UCC 2207 why don't you tell me exactly how you would like me to rectify the "situation"?..


2005-06-25 14:24:54 hotteenthongs->Choker I payed for 2000 hits from assisass.com, i recieved 58 unique visitors, of which 13 let the page load. This is not as described on your webpage. I would accept a refund for all remaining traffic owned, and all balance funds, as well as 50% refund of the assisass traffic that i payed for and did not recieve...

2005-06-25 14:50:37 Choker->hotteenthongs actually you recieved 902 hits from assiss. I see you are tracking traffic from clickz? you ordered and recieved 1000 hits of no cookie , guess you did not know that clickz does not track no cookie traffic did ya? I went ahead and refunded all of your payment, I do not have time to deal with someone who blames their incompetance on others. http://chokertraffic.com/public/tabs.php?t=5 seems that assis has many buyers and they all give him high ratings, think it is a little funny how ONLY you have problems with his traffic? Here's a little advice for you....Next time you have a problem with ANYONE try being nice instead of threatening legal action first. Especially considering that you have no clue what you are doing. I hope you enjoy your career in the fast food industry...


I have ALWAYS offered a no questions money back guarantee on unused funds. I even allow buyers to try even less than a 1000 hits . If it does no good for them they can get the remaining balance back. I never ever STICK someone with a product they do not want. But to threaten me like this jsut boils my blood
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#31 Fucktards before I learned that you can indeed track no cookie traffic. And here I thought the internet was a magical place.
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Soooo funny. I always wondered if anyone actually bought that traffic from you or if it was a dead dog. I guess some noobs can't turn away from the low low price.
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Refund the bitch his $2
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