Jesus man, take a valium. Go read some of the old dogfighter pages on the web. I don't agree with anything about those people and would like to kill them all, but they know about dogfighting. If Akitas could whip Pits they'd be breeding Akitas, and they're not.

A certain Akita might be able to whip a certain Pit, but that's the exception and definitely not the rule.

Nobody is arguing the ability, but as a breed if you took 10 dogs of every top breed and stuck them 1 on 1 with each other in a room, i dont think realistically the pits would do any more damage than any other breed. They might be the least likely to get their ass kicked though :) but i seriously would doubt pits would be the majority aggressor..

It would be an interesting test though :)

No shit

These are Akita PUPPIES and maybe they are barely weened. Meaning they are maybe 8 weeks old at best.

http://www.gotpetsonline.com/picture...akita-0004.jpg

True, but not Pits. They're an ancient breed, been around a LONG LONG time.

I'm not currently breeding them , at the time i was breeding most of them was in california and there was a serious lack of good lineage pit's. Mine went for at least a grand a piece and 2 for red nose.

Um please explain WHY you didn't tell the person that insulted me FIRST to take a valium? Hmmm a little baised are you? Yet another HYPOCRITE.

That was kind of dumb.

I should also add we didnt just sell our pit's to any shmoe, anyone who asked for one of my pits for a guard dog , was told to buy a doberman. Every one of my dogs was sold as family pets, and each buyer went through an interview and a walkthrough of the dogs future home.

Listen a dog is more like to be good or bad based on the OWNER not the breed. Bad owners make bad dogs. EVERY dog breed has bitten someone on some occasion somewhere. Like I said I've been bitten by a chiuaua unprovoked.

The rednecks that are bad Pit owners also have kids that end up being bad people who do drugs, sell drugs and are genereally a drag on society. Should we call for rednecks to stop having kids?

I don't know. My dog is the biggest lover in the world but he gets real agitated around other dogs. Reading about the breed the general concensus seems to be that you shouldn't ever give the Pit even the chance to fight another dog, because there's a good chance they will. I keep mine away from other dogs period just so it doesn't ever become an issue.

This whole thread is dumb.

Nothing in here I disagree with.

Smokey I wish all breeders could say that, but I'd say 99% of them are tweaked out rednecks or ghetto gangstas. Backyard breeders are the biggest problem the breed faces.

well given that the only reason you're posting in this thread is because you're convinced that Akitas are tougher than Pits, I'd say you might have misunderstood the topic of conversation.

so who's dumb?

No I started posting because of the idiot that is calling for all Pits to be destroyed because they are "killers". I own a Pit, I like them. I also like Akitas. Not enough to pay $1200 for one, but I like them. My POV is NOT based on a prefence or a biased for either, but on a knowledge of BOTH breeds.

If for some reason my Pit were to attack a small child I am fully capable of snaping her neck in less than 5 seconds. I would never attempt to do that on an Akita in the same situation.

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From my own experience i would say pit's arent usually the aggressor. The problem is when other dogs get aggresive and then a pit is dangerous.. they usually wont stop, whereas other dogs stop when the fighting gets too rough..

The only dog-dog violence my dogs have ever been involved with other than a minor scuffle was when my main breeding female was in heat and chained up and another female dog came up gave it a sniff , my dog gave it a warning bark, the other dog nipped its neck , and it was on .. one quick cut from the right leg up the chest and back down the left leg split completely open , dog died within minutes, it was over in about 10 seconds.. So it did its job nothing more.

why would you want to snap a small child's neck? :warning

The Pit you moron.

Now I'm a moron? Didn't you read where I'm a vicious BJJ fighter?

Be careful....

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worthless thread
any dog over 60lbs can kill a person and when it happens the media often reports them as pit bulls or pit bull like regardless of the breed. this very thing happened here a few years back, the news reported a child being mauled by pit bulls. a week later they showed photos of the animals locked up about to be put down with the title "Killer Pitbulls get put to sleep". the only problem is the two dogs were big.. black... rottweilers. what a fucking joke

I know several well to do people that own them, and they have legit businesses, and one of the families is black.

dig, you forgot the [/sarcasm] tags. gator can only think on a literal level.

yep sometimes I forget to dumb it down for the rabble.

around here that is exactly the case, no generalizations, i can just ask them in the jail if they have one and its a yes, i volunteer there :)

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That is the biggest problem facing pitbulls at the moment.. Stupid people that just "assume" and we know where that word gets ya.. That and it makes for great TV ratings for the 6pm news. :disgust

not quite...

When people refer to pits they mean either the American Pit Bull Terrier or the American Straffordshire Terrier. They only date back a couple hundred years. One of the many links on their history.

http://www.nyx.net/~mbur/apbtfaqover.html

from your site:
"Among enthusiasts, the history of the APBT is as controversial as the breed itself is among the misled public. The breed's history is a recurrent subject of lively debate in the magazines devoted to the breed. In fact, this FAQ was hotly debated among the contributors before it reached its final form, and still everyone isn't 100% happy!"

from pitbull411.com:
"Once in Rome, the British dogs were crossbred with their Roman counterparts. From the years 50 AD to 410 AD, the breed was widely disseminated throughout the Roman Empire for use as fighting dogs. Along the way they mixed with other indigenous breeds throughout Europe, creating a genetic melting pot for the bulldogs that are thought to have been the immediate antecedents of the American Pit Bull Terrier.

Sadly, the Romans would not be the last to use pit bulls in cruel and grisly blood sports. When the Normans invaded England in 1066, they introduced a new sport called baiting. Interestingly enough, baiting originated with butchers who kept dogs (called Bullenbeissers) to handle unruly bulls as they were herded to the market for slaughter. When a bull stepped out of line or exhibited uncontrollable behavior, the dogs would clamp down on its nose and simply hang on until the handler could regain control of the wayward animal."

I've read about 500 sites on Pit Bull care and history, and the best ones suggest that they've been around since at LEAST medieval times and probably much longer, one of the oldest breeds on record outside of some Chinese breeds. I dunno. All I know is Buster is probably the nicest dog I've ever had, and you couldn't get him to bite you if you tried.