We generalize all day long, you do, I do, the pope does, Jesus Christ did.

Kinda like Dave Chappelle's joke about women who dress all trashy..."sure you may not be a slut, but you're wearing a slut's uniform."

Don't want me to generalize. Then you might wanna go out and tell the 98% of pitbull owners that I have seen in the last 10 years to quit being so fucking ghetto.

And this is precisely the problem. Ban pittbull's all together, wipe out the entire breed everywhere, and the problem will shift to the next breed.

A Lab can easily kill a kid. If it's the biggest, strongest breed of dog available, that's what the shit element of people will buy to try and look tough and cool. The problem is in the owners. Wipe out poor trash, leave the dogs alone.

Yeah, but breeds like pitbulls are more likely to cause damage if they ever snap.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh HAHHA another idiotic thread i remember that one. It was like teaching a bunch of rocks how to be rocks and they still didn't get it..


Saying " INSERT BREED " is " INSERT ACTION" is an idiotic statement if what your trying to prove it with is 1 isolated incedent.

so are black people so whats your point ?

Problem is pits were bred to fight, and don't usually relenquish their victim until it's dead.

I could care less if you generalize , i was just pointing out it makes you look as inbred as the people your commenting on.

Your just the same as the racist who says black people are dangerous and should be shot on site.. same argument , no difference..

LOL this thread's a fucking joke about it actually proving a point...yeah it is one isolated incident but you pit bull owners are about as rabid as a Canuck when you attack the game of Hockey...it's just so much fun.

but I still stand by my statement and not just from one article that for the most part, the owners of pit bulls I have had my experiences with...whether that is talking to them, driving by their homes, seeing them walk their dogs are fucking low lifes..for the most part....but there's this one black surgeon down the street he's coo'

Dont get me wrong if its all in fun , generalizing is funny, but if you take it seriously then you have a screw loose..

Yep as a kid in the 70's you never heard of Pits. The Doberman was the "killer" dog. If you had one and you wife was pregnant you were told to get rid of it before your kid was born or it would eat your baby. Dobermans were bred killers we were told. Some people down the road had some and we were told not to go near that house because they could jump the 8 foot high fence and rip you to shreds before you could run 20 feet.

LOL yeah apples and oranges yeah!

50 white trash, trans am driving wigger pit owners.

Well i stand by my experience and viewpoint as an owner and breeder of HUNDREDS of pitbulls, meeting each and every owner personally over decades. :2 cents:

Yeah I'm sure you're dealing with a different crowd.

I love animals. We have 4 dogs and 2 cats...used to even have 2 birds.

However, I have not met a pit yet that I could honestly say I would want to take home with me.

Akitas are twice the size of Pits and were trained to take down 800 lbs bears. How come they are for sale? My grandparents once own an Akita and I'd put one of those up against 2 Pits and the Atika would kick their asses.

One day we will meet and i will GUARANTEED change your mind about that.. I have a 40lb pit that is a lapdog will eat your heart.

You're retarded. So I won't debate with you. Even if I win I still lose.

Pit bulls were also used for bull and bear baiting..

http://www.wspa.org.uk/data/081202_1...ding_-_200.jpg

Fuck you. How is my statement retarded. Do you even know what an Akita is?

I don't WTF I did to you to deserve that comment. Please explain yourself.

I currently own a Queensland Heeler.. but I have always wanted a pit bull, and will eventually get one.

My wife is in the veterinarian field and sees plenty of dog bites and fight injuries, all breeds have their flaws and in most cases yes there are alot of shitty owners out there.. but the generalization that only drug dealers and white trash own pitbulls is a little bit out there...

My wife and myself took our heeler through 4 months of obedience training, which has made our dog a fantastic dog... And I would deffinetly do that to any other dog that I ever own again...

I am on the middle/upper class of the spectrum of society and I would gladly have multiple pit bulls as companions.. They are bully breads, but the shithead owners are the ones that like to taunt the agression in the dogs..

I Hope that because I will one day own a pit bull that I am not dubbed as white trash..

man what the fuck? Nobody is arguing this point. We're saying don't blame the dog because the owner is an asshole.

White trash loves Pits now. It used to be Dobies. Next it will be German Shepards or something. Ban dog breeders totally imho, problem solved. There are a ton of dogs dying in shelters everyday, including pits, and thousands of breeders like David Stodgehill constantly making new ones. It's a damn shame.

Buster doesn't like the tone of this conversation

http://www.fetishbucks.com/me/buster.jpg

you're probably right, I love dogs and my nieces have a Dachsund that I just thought was ugly as sin and now she thinks that I'm like her 2nd best friend in the world...LOL

your average Akita has zero chance against a pit. Neither does a Rott, a German Shepard or a Presa Canario. Pits were bred to kill other dogs and they're very very good at it, simple as that.

They're friendly to people as long as they're socialized but they are ALWAYS a threat to other dogs.

wow makes me wanna go out and get one just this minute.

Good for them. My point is that ther are PLENTY of large dog capable of killing people yet people only want to ban Pits. My point is that infact a Akita is a MORE potential dangerous dog than a Pit.

Akita
Height
Males 26 to 28 inches at the withers; bitches 24 to 26 inches

The males range in weight from about 100 to 130 pounds, while the females range from 70 to 100 pounds.

Pits
Height
17-23 inches (for dogs and bitches).

Weight
Bitches: 30-50lbs Dogs: 35-60lbs.

i was apprehensive around buster for approximately 2 minutes. he is ridiculously sweet and a testament to the notion that how the dog is raised has everything to do with how it acts around humans.

Labs retrieve, Pits fight. That's what they do. Their original purpose was to go into warthog holes, fight the warthog and drive them out to where they can be killed, and to bring down bears. Not too many people hunt bears and warthogs anymore, but that doesn't mean it's no longer a viable breed. Naturally they're extremely people friendly, extremely dog aggressive. Every breed has it's quirks you have to take into account.

But funny thing is...I watch you guys along with Anthony get on here sounding all roided out after going and beating the shit out of each other and class mates at the local BJJ class....I'm not surprised a pit was thrown into the equation. :1orglaugh

And Akitas were bread to kill BEARS.

I own a Pit my sister has own Pits my grandparents owned an Akita so I have experience with BOTH dogs, unlike YOU. I think I'm more of an expert in this than you. I have seen upclose and personal what each is capable of.

Akitas are generally considered by vets to be more dangerous to people than Pits, as are Dobies and German Shepards. I don't see anyone calling for a ban on those breeds.

This goes for ANY dog though... Any dog can snap out at any time.. They may not win, but they are always a threat... push to many buttons and they snap, just like humans...

I know what your saying Dig, and I agree with alot of it.. but people fail to realize animals have instincts and they sometimes come out at the worst of times....

Alot of the time it's the dipshit owners that allow this to happen and encourage it to happen..

owned indeed

well i guess that clinches it, akitas will defeat pit bulls 100% of the time. flawless logic.

dig, it's all over with, his grandparents owned one.

*edit--bread?

I train BJJ for my health and my confidence. You don't see me threatening anyone on this board or anywhere else, in fact I don't like fighting at all. I just like being ready in case I'm forced into it.

So now your theory is not only that all Pits are vicious, but everyone who trains BJJ is vicious as well? Come over here and spend some time at my place and I'll disabuse you of both notions. Or break your arm, depending on how we get along :1orglaugh

It's not as simple as that because that simply isn't true.. Its like saying humans were bred to be cannibals because "some" of them at one point were cannibals.. The fact is most pitbulls over the last few HUNDRED years were NOT bred for killing anything.

I have raised 4 generations of pits and can trace lineage back several hundred years. No dog/human or any other animal killing was involved in the breeding of them whatsoever in any fashion..

:1orglaugh

At one time our culture knew all about personal responsibility. We understood that large dogs could be dangerous and it was the owner's responsibility to watch over it. Now we just want to ban anything that MIGHT harm us based on the latest media craze.

This is probably true, but you don't get rid of species traits bred for over a thousand years in just a couple generations. Pits aren't really bred for gameness anymore and that's a good thing, but I still wouldn't take a chance leaving one in a room alone with another dog.

fuck off tard. Accord to YOU Pits kill EVERYTHING 100% of the time. Idiot and HYPOCRITE. I find it ironic that peole that spout off about Pits often have ZERO experience with them and get their POV from the news.

Like I said I was bit by a German Sheppard UNPROVOKE and I was in my own yards so I guess that means we need to kill all of them.

99% of all breeds of dogs are less than 300 years old by the way.

Why are you breeding Pits? I can go to any shelter in LA and find hundreds of them waiting to be put down at any time because there are no homes for them. Most dogs that come from breeders are used for fighting or as stock for other breeders. Breeding Pits is nothing to be proud of, it's the last thing this breed needs.