Does CCbill and Epoch have the ability to block virtual card numbers? - GoFuckYourself.com

Lensman · 06-24-2005, 10:55 AM

From Citibank:

"Virtual Account Numbers is a free service for Citi® cardmembers that gives you a substitute card number to use in place of your credit card number when you make a purchase online. This random number provides you with additional security.

It's easy to use: before every online purchase, you simply get a new number from Virtual Account Numbers to use at each new merchant. And activating this free service is easy..."

So bascially, no long-term rebills.

Alex · 06-24-2005, 10:56 AM

Dont know if they can, but i think if they could they would.

Its too much of a hassle.

Every try signing up somewhere with an epass visa, im usualy declined because they cant rebill on it.

Trixxxia · 06-24-2005, 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lensman

From Citibank:

"Virtual Account Numbers is a free service for Citi® cardmembers that gives you a substitute card number to use in place of your credit card number when you make a purchase online. This random number provides you with additional security.

It's easy to use: before every online purchase, you simply get a new number from Virtual Account Numbers to use at each new merchant. And activating this free service is easy..."

So bascially, no long-term rebills.

It wouldn't be so bad if they can distinguish the numbers and then give them only one purchase option - either 30 days at 25% more or a 90-day subscription.

FilthyRob · 06-24-2005, 11:01 AM

Oh that sucks. I would make virtual card users buy at least 3 months worth if you could get away with that.

BRISK · 06-24-2005, 11:01 AM

Interesting idea of generating the random number each time. I wonder if they ever re-use the numbers again?

Nathan · 06-24-2005, 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lensman

From Citibank:

"Virtual Account Numbers is a free service for Citi® cardmembers that gives you a substitute card number to use in place of your credit card number when you make a purchase online. This random number provides you with additional security.

It's easy to use: before every online purchase, you simply get a new number from Virtual Account Numbers to use at each new merchant. And activating this free service is easy..."

So bascially, no long-term rebills.

Maybe, if we are lucky, the virtual account numbers will use their own BIN code (the first few digits that identify the bank) or at least some sort of pool that is easy to identify.

Unless that is the case, I doubt there is a way to find them.

BRISK · 06-24-2005, 11:02 AM

What if you generate a random number, but never use it? Does it expire?

Rui · 06-24-2005, 11:07 AM

My bank has been offering this sort of cards for + than a year...its nothing new.

And its a great thing (not if you count on rebills of course ;) )

After Shock Media · 06-24-2005, 11:09 AM

I have gotten through on a ccbill site before using a store bought debit visa card. I picked one up as a test to see if it would work or not.
Had me spooked for age verification reasons.

ry0t · 06-24-2005, 11:16 AM

I think they can because epassporte is a virtual number and it was blocked by ccbill.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 06-24-2005, 11:32 AM

Lock em for multi month subscriptions with a VR card?

Thee Johnclave · 06-24-2005, 02:02 PM

The only way to block them would be (as Nathan pointed out) if they have their own BIN. However, even if they do have a BIN unique from the normal credit cards of that particular bank, Visa does not provide us processors with a list of "Virtual" card bins vs. Gift Card bins vs. Normal credit card bins.

Burnie · 06-24-2005, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Lensman

So bascially, no long-term rebills.

Correct, I use it all the time. I have had both my CC stolen and haven't worried about it since I went to the Virtual CC. I set the limit just above the purchase price, and once it is used, only that company can use it, no-one else.

Burnie

P.S. I also just used it for a FSC membership with CCBill and no problems

06-24-2005, 10:55 AM	#1
Lensman GFY Chaperone Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Adult.com Posts: 9,846	Does CCbill and Epoch have the ability to block virtual card numbers? From Citibank: "Virtual Account Numbers is a free service for Citi® cardmembers that gives you a substitute card number to use in place of your credit card number when you make a purchase online. This random number provides you with additional security. It's easy to use: before every online purchase, you simply get a new number from Virtual Account Numbers to use at each new merchant. And activating this free service is easy..." So bascially, no long-term rebills.

06-24-2005, 10:56 AM	#2
Alex So Fucking Banned (YEA!!) Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 10,963	Dont know if they can, but i think if they could they would. Its too much of a hassle. Every try signing up somewhere with an epass visa, im usualy declined because they cant rebill on it. __________________ Care about me? Who? Me! Who?

06-24-2005, 11:01 AM	#4
FilthyRob Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Anaheim - CA Posts: 6,741	Oh that sucks. I would make virtual card users buy at least 3 months worth if you could get away with that. __________________ AKA - Clubsexy

06-24-2005, 11:01 AM	#5
BRISK Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 12,240	Interesting idea of generating the random number each time. I wonder if they ever re-use the numbers again? __________________ I post on GFY so that when people ask me what I do, I can tell them that I work with the mentally retarded.

06-24-2005, 11:02 AM	#7
BRISK Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 12,240	What if you generate a random number, but never use it? Does it expire? __________________ I post on GFY so that when people ask me what I do, I can tell them that I work with the mentally retarded.

06-24-2005, 11:07 AM	#8
Rui web Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: On icq: 85-483-060 Posts: 9,533	My bank has been offering this sort of cards for + than a year...its nothing new. And its a great thing (not if you count on rebills of course ;) )

06-24-2005, 11:09 AM	#9
After Shock Media It's coming look busy Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: "Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn". Posts: 35,299	I have gotten through on a ccbill site before using a store bought debit visa card. I picked one up as a test to see if it would work or not. Had me spooked for age verification reasons. __________________ [email protected] ICQ:135982156 AIM: Aftershockmed1a MSN: [email protected]

06-24-2005, 11:16 AM	#10
ry0t So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Boston Posts: 4,160	I think they can because epassporte is a virtual number and it was blocked by ccbill.

06-24-2005, 11:32 AM	#11
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06-24-2005, 02:02 PM	#12
Thee Johnclave The Billz Collectaz Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 632	The only way to block them would be (as Nathan pointed out) if they have their own BIN. However, even if they do have a BIN unique from the normal credit cards of that particular bank, Visa does not provide us processors with a list of "Virtual" card bins vs. Gift Card bins vs. Normal credit card bins. __________________ Seeking large traffic deals. john at pptme dot com