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Tala · 06-23-2005, 12:57 PM

Do you think that's part of the plan? Does the federal government want to bully/scare as many pornographers as possible out of the business?

*grabs tinfoil hat just in case*

Morgan · 06-23-2005, 12:58 PM

it scared a few people away... but no real competition, only those who have no clue really.

fris · 06-23-2005, 01:00 PM

its just going to give more power to some sponsors to push out more sites. i dont think they are scared one bit. its the people who dont get ids when shooting their content.

simon synester being one of them.

BuggyG · 06-23-2005, 01:00 PM

the people they really wanna stop.. ex.. pedo's.. idiots.. child porn.. are just ignoring it unfortunately. they the ones that gotta get shut down.. not legit people

QuaWee · 06-23-2005, 01:01 PM

lol, nice sig fris

tranza · 06-23-2005, 01:01 PM

I'm loving it... Less competition...

Tala · 06-23-2005, 01:03 PM

So basically it's just an out for those who need an excuse? Are you serious?

AdultInsider Cloner · 06-23-2005, 01:06 PM

Only the idiots will leave...not that we'll miss them

Probono · 06-23-2005, 01:07 PM

Tala the real abusers never cared about the law anyhow, they will stay around unless they are arrested.

People who are leaving either do not want to expose themselves to the risk of prosecution or realize they were breaking the law and do not want to continue.

Just like a lock keeps honest people honest, this enforcement will drive out honest people who do not want to take the risk. It will not affect real businesses or the very people the law is intended to target.

DamageX · 06-23-2005, 01:08 PM

The strong always prevail

reynold · 06-23-2005, 10:05 PM

We are destined to Rule--they will not prevail!lol ;)

webair · 06-23-2005, 10:09 PM

they should have had their ducks in a row

Sly · 06-23-2005, 10:12 PM

Anybody who is leaving because of this probably wasn't making much anyway. No way in hell would I give up my income with the drop of a hat.

Mr. Pat · 06-23-2005, 11:09 PM

i'm not leaving...that's just what these jerks would want

reynold · 06-24-2005, 12:43 AM

birds of the same feathers, stick together. long live this Xbiz!

Tempest · 06-24-2005, 01:56 AM

I'm actually building a bunch of sites to help make up the slack... So I'm doing my part to spread even more hardcore sexually explicit content on the net...

reynold · 06-24-2005, 02:05 AM

that's cool man, let's rock the house with lots of hardcore stuffs.

adonthenet · 06-24-2005, 02:08 AM

thats possible

TheWylders · 06-24-2005, 02:13 AM

Thats absolutely the plan! This administration may do some stupid things, but they ain't dumb. It's all about scare tactics and they covered it all, producers, talent and folks just making a living on advertising it...everybody involved in the adult industry is at risk and all in the name of protecting the children. This isn't about anything but trying to do away with porn and getting america more focused on religion! They know damn well it isn't helping the fight against child exploitation, anybody with common sense can see these new regulations are intended to punish people from doing something that is not only legal but protected by our constitution!

GatorB · 06-24-2005, 02:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tala

Do you think that's part of the plan? Does the federal government want to bully/scare as many pornographers as possible out of the business?

*grabs tinfoil hat just in case*

It's much easier to get 1000 webmasters to quit than to put 10 in jail. The fewer people they have to choose from to investigate in the first place the easier it is on them. As soon as some poor sap just trying to make a few extra bucks is busted you'll see a huge drop in the number of webmasters out there. At least on the American side.

Furious_Female · 06-24-2005, 04:29 AM

The sky is not falling. If people do leave, it won't be anyone who would make a significant difference to anyone anyway. Think: small, part timers. Which come and go anyway. Not everyone in this industry is in the US and it is easily possible to be 2257 compliant. I have been before it was even an issue. This industry, just like any other, is all about adapting. This is a technology age... we just need the rest of the US and its ancient laws and officials to get up to speed. Although, them not being completely up to speed is probably in our favor at this time, because they could make things a LOT worse.

Furious_Female · 06-24-2005, 04:31 AM

Oh and they will make examples out of people... the US government loves to do that. Where is Osama bin Laden? Who knows... but rest assured, we know where Martha Stewart is after she served time at Camp Cupcake.

Violetta · 06-24-2005, 04:56 AM

No, I think they just want to do some cleaning in this dirty buis!

Cains · 06-24-2005, 05:02 AM

2257 shouldn't stop alot of people, I'd expect most have some kind of content management system for adding and removing galleries, if not i'd have to ask why

I'd expect the smaller webmaster to use mostly sponsor hosted galleries, so it's not their problem. Then its just a case of manually deleting files and updating links for their few own hosted galleries.

I'd like to see what the softcore conversion ratio is going to be like compared to the companies giving out encrypted model info and still promoting with hardcore.

So really the people leaving the business now either want to get out or just can't deal with the hassles involved anymore.

06-23-2005, 12:57 PM	#1
Tala Fucked if I know Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Do you have a flag? Posts: 23,368	With all of these people leavin the biz Do you think that's part of the plan? Does the federal government want to bully/scare as many pornographers as possible out of the business? grabs tinfoil hat just in case __________________ ICQ: 11120676 \| Google: mindcrime \| Skype: suitemindcrime\|E-Mail: mindcrime AT gmail.com\|PR girl with great writing skills for hire!!!! Contact me to work for YOU!\|TECHIEMEDIA? 24/7 support from some of the best techs in the biz. Tell Jim that I sent you.

06-23-2005, 12:58 PM	#2
Morgan Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: May 2002 Location: Corona Del Mar, CA Posts: 10,520	it scared a few people away... but no real competition, only those who have no clue really. __________________ PornstarPlatinum.com \| TransErotica.com

06-23-2005, 01:00 PM	#3
fris Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 55,372	its just going to give more power to some sponsors to push out more sites. i dont think they are scared one bit. its the people who dont get ids when shooting their content. simon synester being one of them. __________________ Since 1999: 69 Adult Industry awards for Best Hosting Company and professional excellence. WP Stuff

06-23-2005, 01:01 PM	#5
QuaWee Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: boogers Posts: 5,791	lol, nice sig fris __________________ i luv mainstream

06-23-2005, 01:01 PM	#6
tranza ICQ: 197-556-237 Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: BRASIL !!! Posts: 57,559	I'm loving it... Less competition... __________________ I'm just a newbie.

06-23-2005, 01:00 PM	#4
BuggyG Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Ottawa Posts: 4,179	the people they really wanna stop.. ex.. pedo's.. idiots.. child porn.. are just ignoring it unfortunately. they the ones that gotta get shut down.. not legit people

06-23-2005, 01:03 PM	#7
Tala Fucked if I know Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Do you have a flag? Posts: 23,368	So basically it's just an out for those who need an excuse? Are you serious? __________________ ICQ: 11120676 \| Google: mindcrime \| Skype: suitemindcrime\|E-Mail: mindcrime AT gmail.com\|PR girl with great writing skills for hire!!!! Contact me to work for YOU!\|TECHIEMEDIA? 24/7 support from some of the best techs in the biz. Tell Jim that I sent you.

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06-23-2005, 01:07 PM	#9
Probono Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Under the Rainbow Posts: 2,731	Tala the real abusers never cared about the law anyhow, they will stay around unless they are arrested. People who are leaving either do not want to expose themselves to the risk of prosecution or realize they were breaking the law and do not want to continue. Just like a lock keeps honest people honest, this enforcement will drive out honest people who do not want to take the risk. It will not affect real businesses or the very people the law is intended to target.

06-23-2005, 01:08 PM	#10
DamageX Marketing & Strategy Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Former nomad Posts: 14,293	The strong always prevail __________________ Whitehat is for chumps If you don't do it, somebody else will - true story!

06-23-2005, 10:05 PM	#11
reynold Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Global Traveler Posts: 51,271	We are destined to Rule--they will not prevail!lol ;)

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06-23-2005, 10:12 PM	#13
Sly Let's do some business! Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 31,329	Anybody who is leaving because of this probably wasn't making much anyway. No way in hell would I give up my income with the drop of a hat. __________________ Vacares - Web Hosting, Domains, O365, Security & More - Paxum and BTC Accepted Windows VPS now available Great for TSS, Nifty Stats, remote work, virtual assistants, etc. Click here for more details.

06-23-2005, 11:09 PM	#14
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06-24-2005, 12:43 AM	#15
reynold Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Global Traveler Posts: 51,271	birds of the same feathers, stick together. long live this Xbiz!

06-24-2005, 01:56 AM	#16
Tempest Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: May 2004 Location: West Coast, Canada. Posts: 10,217	I'm actually building a bunch of sites to help make up the slack... So I'm doing my part to spread even more hardcore sexually explicit content on the net...

06-24-2005, 02:05 AM	#17
reynold Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Global Traveler Posts: 51,271	that's cool man, let's rock the house with lots of hardcore stuffs.

06-24-2005, 02:08 AM	#18
adonthenet Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 16,753	thats possible

06-24-2005, 02:13 AM	#19
TheWylders Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Memphis, TN Posts: 623	Thats absolutely the plan! This administration may do some stupid things, but they ain't dumb. It's all about scare tactics and they covered it all, producers, talent and folks just making a living on advertising it...everybody involved in the adult industry is at risk and all in the name of protecting the children. This isn't about anything but trying to do away with porn and getting america more focused on religion! They know damn well it isn't helping the fight against child exploitation, anybody with common sense can see these new regulations are intended to punish people from doing something that is not only legal but protected by our constitution!

06-24-2005, 04:29 AM	#21
Furious_Female Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Upstate, New York Posts: 8,187	The sky is not falling. If people do leave, it won't be anyone who would make a significant difference to anyone anyway. Think: small, part timers. Which come and go anyway. Not everyone in this industry is in the US and it is easily possible to be 2257 compliant. I have been before it was even an issue. This industry, just like any other, is all about adapting. This is a technology age... we just need the rest of the US and its ancient laws and officials to get up to speed. Although, them not being completely up to speed is probably in our favor at this time, because they could make things a LOT worse. __________________ Skype: j3nn.com ICQ 160370494 My current favorite high-converting sponsor: CrakRevenue

06-24-2005, 04:31 AM	#22
Furious_Female Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Upstate, New York Posts: 8,187	Oh and they will make examples out of people... the US government loves to do that. Where is Osama bin Laden? Who knows... but rest assured, we know where Martha Stewart is after she served time at Camp Cupcake. __________________ Skype: j3nn.com ICQ 160370494 My current favorite high-converting sponsor: CrakRevenue

06-24-2005, 04:56 AM	#23
Violetta Affiliate Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 28,735	No, I think they just want to do some cleaning in this dirty buis! __________________ M&A Queen

06-24-2005, 05:02 AM	#24
Cains Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 407	2257 shouldn't stop alot of people, I'd expect most have some kind of content management system for adding and removing galleries, if not i'd have to ask why I'd expect the smaller webmaster to use mostly sponsor hosted galleries, so it's not their problem. Then its just a case of manually deleting files and updating links for their few own hosted galleries. I'd like to see what the softcore conversion ratio is going to be like compared to the companies giving out encrypted model info and still promoting with hardcore. So really the people leaving the business now either want to get out or just can't deal with the hassles involved anymore.