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Alex · 06-23-2005, 03:30 PM

Its not a matter of shelling out $300, its a matter of principal.

If you call yourself the Free Speech Coalition, wouldn't it make sense if you are free.

This is a bunch of bullshit, if you are fighting for our protection then great. I will glady donate money for the cause. But if you are only protecting those that have donated an $x amount of money then screw you.

Free Speech should be for all not those that can afford it or want to pay.

Sly · 06-23-2005, 03:31 PM

The stupidity never ends.

Hardlinks · 06-23-2005, 03:32 PM

This should be posted on some free speech forums and newsgroups. Let the media grab it.

Snake Doctor · 06-23-2005, 03:35 PM

Unfortunately free speech isn't free. It costs money to defend our rights from those who seek to take them away.

That's why people donate money to the FSC, the ACLU, and other similar organizations every year.

Alex · 06-23-2005, 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lenny2

Unfortunately free speech isn't free. It costs money to defend our rights from those who seek to take them away.

That's why people donate money to the FSC, the ACLU, and other similar organizations every year.

There is a difference between dontating money to an organization that will fight for all agaisnt these regulations as opposed to protecting those that pay.

xxxdesign-net · 06-23-2005, 03:42 PM

Lawyers should work for free..?

xxxdesign-net · 06-23-2005, 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex

There is a difference between dontating money to an organization that will fight for all agaisnt these regulations as opposed to protecting those that pay.

so you want others to pay and you get all the benefits...? Freeloader ...

eroswebmaster · 06-23-2005, 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxxdesign-net

so you want others to pay and you get all the benefits...? Freeloader ...

That would be the result anyway in the end if the regs are turned over wouldn't it?

Choker · 06-23-2005, 03:47 PM

I don't know you dude but you are coming off as one big fucking cry baby. All this time you are spending complaining about not having to pay like everyonee else is you could have made the $100 it tkaes to join and been done with it.

Alex · 06-23-2005, 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxxdesign-net

so you want others to pay and you get all the benefits...? Freeloader ...

Go ahead. Pay money to so that you are protected for those 45 days while the case is being filed and all.

The DOJ will have a list of the FSC members and they wont be allowed to go near them.

Then when the grace period is over, guess what the DOJ has a list of and guess where your name is.

Alex · 06-23-2005, 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Choker

I don't know you dude but you are coming off as one big fucking cry baby. All this time you are spending complaining about not having to pay like everyonee else is you could have made the $100 it tkaes to join and been done with it.

This has nothing in all to do about money. Read my first post and the post below yours.

Sarah_Jayne · 06-23-2005, 03:49 PM

well sure - as soon as laywers work for free

crockett · 06-23-2005, 03:50 PM

Umm try telling the lawyers they should be free.. I bet that would go over well with them. Let along the office staff and everything that goes along with it.

xxxdesign-net · 06-23-2005, 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eroswebmaster

That would be the result anyway in the end if the regs are turned over wouldn't it?

sure.. but atleast.. they wont benefit from the new FSC deal..

Alex · 06-23-2005, 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett

Umm try telling the lawyers they should be free.. I bet that would go over well with them. Let along the office staff and everything that goes along with it.

You obviosly didnt read a word i wrote.

I would gladly this second make a donation to help the FSC, if they were fighting for Free Speech for all like it should be.

The fact is, i dont want to pay money for a grace period and so that my name gets handed over to the DOJ.

Snake Doctor · 06-23-2005, 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex

You obviosly didnt read a word i wrote.

I would gladly this second make a donation to help the FSC, if they were fighting for Free Speech for all like it should be.

The fact is, i dont want to pay money for a grace period and so that my name gets handed over to the DOJ.

Dude you're a fucking moron. You have been told SEVERAL times in SEVERAL threads that the DOJ never gets to see the FSC's membership list.

You just like to whine....why don't you just quit now and go apply at McDonalds?

justined · 06-23-2005, 04:11 PM

SPECIAL OFFER!!!!!!!!!! SPECIAL OFFER!!!!!!!!!!
**** $100 bucks a month for 3 months protection racket ****

When the offer expires the doj will send you a pencil because they will already know everything about you. Darn.......that bit was supposed to be in tiny print so you can't read it.

FilthyRob · 06-23-2005, 04:11 PM

Freedom is not free

V_RocKs · 06-23-2005, 04:48 PM

I have paid my $300 and I am not in their membership yet.... Can someone from the FSC contact me?

Probono · 06-23-2005, 04:53 PM

duh and lawyers are free and bandwidth is free and content is free and you are a fool. If you want the benefit of being a part of a trade group you join it, otherwise don't complain.

wjxxx · 06-23-2005, 04:59 PM

hookers should be free too

mardigras · 06-23-2005, 05:06 PM

"Free speech" is actually short for freedom of speech... big difference in that and something that is "free" as in doesn't cost money. If you don't think "free speech" is expensive just ask the families of anyone killed while making it possible.

pornguy · 06-23-2005, 05:08 PM

I have no problem with free speech, but I do have a problem with them only attempting to protect the people that paid. So actually it is paid speech.

Mr.Fiction · 06-23-2005, 05:10 PM

The Free Speech Coalition is an adult industry trade group. They fight for the free speech rights of their members, which helps protect all Americans. Their focus is on defending companies who are members.

The ACLU is a civil rights group who fights for the rights of all Americans.

If you want to protect your business, join the FSC. If you are just interested in civil rights, join the ACLU.

If you're smart, join both.

xanthias · 06-23-2005, 05:10 PM

How the hell are the members of the FSC going to be protected if the DOJ never gets to see the list? What if they go after someone on the list, if they can't see it, what's to stop them from sending their ass to jail?

VeriSexy · 06-23-2005, 05:11 PM

Nothing is free in the world, everyone needs to get paid...............

Mr.Fiction · 06-23-2005, 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mardigras

"Free speech" is actually short for freedom of speech... big difference in that and something that is "free" as in doesn't cost money. If you don't think "free speech" is expensive just ask the families of anyone killed while making it possible.

Why would anyone have to die defending free speech? It's free isn't it?

What about free press? Why should I have to pay for a newspaper?

jonesy · 06-23-2005, 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex

Its not a matter of shelling out $300, its a matter of principal.

If you call yourself the Free Speech Coalition, wouldn't it make sense if you are free.

This is a bunch of bullshit, if you are fighting for our protection then great. I will glady donate money for the cause. But if you are only protecting those that have donated an $x amount of money then screw you.

Free Speech should be for all not those that can afford it or want to pay.

Your a moron - you think lawyers and filing lawsuits are free?

and come back when you have a fucking clue

NetRodent · 06-23-2005, 05:20 PM

free speech != free beer

Socks · 06-23-2005, 05:22 PM

Yeah, kinda moronic. In the end, if they change the law or not, it will apply to the LAW, not the FSC members.

mardigras · 06-23-2005, 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.Fiction

Why would anyone have to die defending free speech? It's free isn't it?

What about free press? Why should I have to pay for a newspaper?

Heh, reminds me of the old saying that goes "Anyone who thinks speech is free has obviously never hired a lawyer"

colpanic · 06-23-2005, 05:35 PM

This is the land of the free also!

So please give me free passwords to all your sites.

TheSenator · 06-23-2005, 05:36 PM

Free speach is not free ............

Some people pay with blood others with greens.

scoreman · 06-23-2005, 07:34 PM

Legal defense for your business has nothing to do with free speech. Do not use the shield that this issue revolves around your 1st amendment rights. This is about your money, that is what is bothering you here. Unfortunately to protect your bigger picture money, your smaller picture money needs to be used right now.

Look closer....no one else is out there trying to fight the DOJ except the FSC. NO ONE except Dave and New Beginnings and let me take a moment to thank them again for having the big brassy ones to be the named plaintiffs here.

Unless you have a grand plan to get new legal counsel (who I should also add is better than our current ones --good luck there ...try talking to your local chapter of Holland and Knight and I think you might even get a few 225..whats? ...and then and tell me how much your $2000 session with them helped), then you should just decide whether this money you spend is really that big of a deal.

For the record I too am suspicious of people claiming to want to help but wanting money. When rumor of a pending settlement hit last night I was definitely a skeptic. Now that I see details of this settlement I see that alot of care was taken to further the interests of a diverse group of adult industry folks and they are not giving up and selling out, well I am sold on the legitimacy and integrity of the FSC.

These people are fighting for our livelihoods and you are bitching about having to pay a fraction of a fraction of the cost of carrying on a full blown suit against the US Dept of Justice (also known as mr DEEPEST Pocket ever) and you are asking for support of your position? Get real man, your very confused here.

06-23-2005, 03:30 PM	#1
Alex So Fucking Banned (YEA!!) Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 10,963	ATTN FSC: Free Speech Should Be FREE Its not a matter of shelling out $300, its a matter of principal. If you call yourself the Free Speech Coalition, wouldn't it make sense if you are free. This is a bunch of bullshit, if you are fighting for our protection then great. I will glady donate money for the cause. But if you are only protecting those that have donated an $x amount of money then screw you. Free Speech should be for all not those that can afford it or want to pay. __________________ Care about me? Who? Me! Who? Last edited by Alex; 06-23-2005 at 03:32 PM..

06-23-2005, 03:31 PM	#2
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xxxdesign-net My hips don't lie Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 10,129	Lawyers should work for free..?

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justined Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2001 Posts: 169	SPECIAL OFFER!!!!!!!!!! SPECIAL OFFER!!!!!!!!!! ** $100 bucks a month for 3 months protection racket ** When the offer expires the doj will send you a pencil because they will already know everything about you. Darn.......that bit was supposed to be in tiny print so you can't read it.

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06-23-2005, 04:48 PM	#19
V_RocKs Damn Right I Kiss Ass! Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Cowtown, USA Posts: 32,422	I have paid my $300 and I am not in their membership yet.... Can someone from the FSC contact me?

06-23-2005, 04:53 PM	#20
Probono Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Under the Rainbow Posts: 2,731	duh and lawyers are free and bandwidth is free and content is free and you are a fool. If you want the benefit of being a part of a trade group you join it, otherwise don't complain.

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xanthias Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 183	How the hell are the members of the FSC going to be protected if the DOJ never gets to see the list? What if they go after someone on the list, if they can't see it, what's to stop them from sending their ass to jail? __________________ icq:313788227 email: xanthias_gmail_com

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06-23-2005, 05:22 PM	#30
Socks Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2002 Location: Toronto Posts: 8,475	Yeah, kinda moronic. In the end, if they change the law or not, it will apply to the LAW, not the FSC members.

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06-23-2005, 07:34 PM	#34
scoreman Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Miami, Florida Posts: 1,491	Legal defense for your business has nothing to do with free speech. Do not use the shield that this issue revolves around your 1st amendment rights. This is about your money, that is what is bothering you here. Unfortunately to protect your bigger picture money, your smaller picture money needs to be used right now. Look closer....no one else is out there trying to fight the DOJ except the FSC. NO ONE except Dave and New Beginnings and let me take a moment to thank them again for having the big brassy ones to be the named plaintiffs here. Unless you have a grand plan to get new legal counsel (who I should also add is better than our current ones --good luck there ...try talking to your local chapter of Holland and Knight and I think you might even get a few 225..whats? ...and then and tell me how much your $2000 session with them helped), then you should just decide whether this money you spend is really that big of a deal. For the record I too am suspicious of people claiming to want to help but wanting money. When rumor of a pending settlement hit last night I was definitely a skeptic. Now that I see details of this settlement I see that alot of care was taken to further the interests of a diverse group of adult industry folks and they are not giving up and selling out, well I am sold on the legitimacy and integrity of the FSC. These people are fighting for our livelihoods and you are bitching about having to pay a fraction of a fraction of the cost of carrying on a full blown suit against the US Dept of Justice (also known as mr DEEPEST Pocket ever) and you are asking for support of your position? Get real man, your very confused here. __________________