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E-Randy 06-23-2005 04:02 PM

FSC is performing a valuable service for the industry. Paying $300 or more is nothing compared to the thousands a single entity would pay in legal fees to fight something like this. It's power in numbers and it is everyone's responsibility to contribute to the FSC. Not only to protect yourself from unjust laws but to send a message to the goverment that we will not sit around and be trampled on like crooks. We are legitimate business owners and we have rights that MUST be respected by the government, regardless of their personal religious views.

KRosh is right, this law affects EVERYONE, not just U.S. webmasters. Foreign companies will see a short term increase in their revenues if the law is proved valid, due to many U.S. companies shutting their doors because their are unable to comply. But they will lose in the long run as they will see less revenue due to an overall shrinkage in the market.

Does it really matter if the FSC gets richer from this scenario? It can only benefit the industry as a whole since we will finally have a unified organization that will be able to boost lobbying efforts and further protect us from these type of shady laws. It's time for the industry to think in a more progressive manner rather than the "how quickly can I make X dollars and get the fuck out" attitude. This industry is still in it's infancy has much more room to grow, however, this will not happen if we do not battle the forces that try to suppress our right to choose our own lifestyles. The right wing is trying to force it's "morals and values" upon the rest of the country and they are working VERY hard at it. We need to work equally hard to repel their attacks by sticking together under one organization. I believe the FSC is that organization.

For the debaters, NO, I have no affiliation to the FSC, except as being their member. I just can't stand being put in a position by the government that makes me "Guilty until proven Innocent." That's bullshit!

Nuff Said!

King Adam 06-23-2005 04:22 PM

I do appreciate the FSC heading up this fight. We need organizations that are designed to do just that.

However, I don't really like the idea of being on a list to will be given to a master which in turn is most likely choosen by the US government. They have always done what they wanted to and who is to say that they won't find a way to get the list opened. If thats the case, everyone on that list is a potential target. If you are trying to buy protection, then you are most likely not compliant and that's why you are doing it. If you are compliant, then you have nothing to worry about.

Just take the time and get your biz compliant. Newbreed has some cheap software that will make your work easy. We bought it and are more than happy.

dopeman 06-23-2005 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by King Adam
If you are compliant, then you have nothing to worry about.

even if you're 100% compliant, do you want these goons knocking on your door and harassing you? and what if you have a regular clerical error? those things happen, but in this case it could be 5 years in prison.

SiMpLe 06-23-2005 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by E-Randy
FSC is performing a valuable service for the industry. Paying $300 or more is nothing compared to the thousands a single entity would pay in legal fees to fight something like this. It's power in numbers and it is everyone's responsibility to contribute to the FSC. Not only to protect yourself from unjust laws but to send a message to the goverment that we will not sit around and be trampled on like crooks. We are legitimate business owners and we have rights that MUST be respected by the government, regardless of their personal religious views.

KRosh is right, this law affects EVERYONE, not just U.S. webmasters. Foreign companies will see a short term increase in their revenues if the law is proved valid, due to many U.S. companies shutting their doors because their are unable to comply. But they will lose in the long run as they will see less revenue due to an overall shrinkage in the market.

Does it really matter if the FSC gets richer from this scenario? It can only benefit the industry as a whole since we will finally have a unified organization that will be able to boost lobbying efforts and further protect us from these type of shady laws. It's time for the industry to think in a more progressive manner rather than the "how quickly can I make X dollars and get the fuck out" attitude. This industry is still in it's infancy has much more room to grow, however, this will not happen if we do not battle the forces that try to suppress our right to choose our own lifestyles. The right wing is trying to force it's "morals and values" upon the rest of the country and they are working VERY hard at it. We need to work equally hard to repel their attacks by sticking together under one organization. I believe the FSC is that organization.

For the debaters, NO, I have no affiliation to the FSC, except as being their member. I just can't stand being put in a position by the government that makes me "Guilty until proven Innocent." That's bullshit!

Nuff Said!

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Sly 06-23-2005 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dopeman
even if you're 100% compliant, do you want these goons knocking on your door and harassing you? and what if you have a regular clerical error? those things happen, but in this case it could be 5 years in prison.

That could happen regardless of what does or doesn't happen. If you're really that concerned about harassment, you may want to close up shop and leave adult permanently.

Mr.Fiction 06-23-2005 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sly
It is a legal case. In order to be a part of the legal case, you have to be a plaintiff. You can easily become a plaintiff by joining the FSC, or you can file your own suit.

You should make that bigger! Maybe some of these anti-FSC people would actually read it. :1orglaugh

KRosh 06-23-2005 06:52 PM

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