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Braincash Pat 06-23-2005 03:04 PM

So everyone is on hold untill august. Good job to the FSC to protect its members. :thumbsup

PMdave 06-23-2005 03:06 PM

And in august they know who was trying to get in their way... good luck!

triumph 06-23-2005 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Choker
Alternative fax number for the FSC is 818-701-6630 get your app in now
print this app here http://www.freespeechcoalition.com/c...es=Corpora te then fax it in NOW

Choker what are the difference in the dollar tables of the aplication to the FSC? Is that how much your company grosses? I want to join.

blakkfrogg 06-23-2005 03:08 PM

OK, now let me get this straight.... I calledthem and they told me it was going to be $300 no matter what amount of money my dba made.... Can someone clarify this for me? I mean, shit.... I can EASILY spare $100 right now. It's only when you TRIPLE the figure that I am forced to wince....

xxxice 06-23-2005 03:09 PM

Cool :thumbsup

Tom_PM 06-23-2005 03:09 PM

The DOJ wont have the list. Only the "special master" will see it, and compare names of DOJ target with FSC member list. It'll probably be a judge.

blakkfrogg, if you earn between 0 and 100k per year, it should cost $100.

Dax 06-23-2005 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PattyeCake*
August 8, 2005 thats about what... 46 days? Granted any time is good, but thats really not a lot in the grand scheme of things...

That is the monday right after internext... :Graucho

fuelcell 06-23-2005 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blakkfrogg
So this means..... only those willing to pay for protection have been granted a stay of execution? Seems like a typical scenario. Not everyone HAS $300 to throw around. Sad for me, but I am one of those people. The idea of going to prison does not sound all that amusing to me. Not sure why. I think it's probably the food they serve. Better eat all the SPAM and Twinkies I can get my hands on before Big Brother gets a woody and batters down my door with it, 'cuz I feel no matter how hard I try to make all my free site projects 2257 compliant, some dweeb in the DOJ will find a detail that I missed and send the Four Horsemen after me.

Now back to your regularly scheduled weekday reality series programming...

You might want to call FSC and check rates. Will probably be much lower than you think.

Choker 06-23-2005 03:10 PM

I just talked to Michelle they are getting a call center set up should be ready by 6:00 am tomorrow. She said to fax in your apps, that the payment will not be charged until they get caught up but if your app is in consider yourself a member.

Socks 06-23-2005 03:11 PM

Looks like it's $300 for webmasters, per website. Did I read that wrong? last option.

I think everyone is paying $300 to get an extension? I'm going to get compliant now, and follow the rules. If they change in the future I can adapt. Sounds like the list is for people who DONT want to comply.

LaoTzu 06-23-2005 03:12 PM

Can they go after FSC members retroactively later on? If I go back to using hardcore promo materials that I don't have docs for until the next hearing(then switch back to compliance, of course) can they come after me if there is no further injunction/TRO?

In other words, can they take a million screen shots of websites today and then go after FSC members based on that down the road??

Not Working 06-23-2005 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LaoTzu
Can they go after FSC members retroactively later on? If I go back to using hardcore promo materials that I don't have docs for until the next hearing(then switch back to compliance, of course) can they come after me if there is no further injunction/TRO?

In other words, can they take a million screen shots of websites today and then go after FSC members based on that down the road??


to put it in simple terms, YES

PMdave 06-23-2005 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PR_Tom
The DOJ wont have the list. Only the "special master" will see it, and compare names of DOJ target with FSC member list. It'll probably be a judge.

blakkfrogg, if you earn between 0 and 100k per year, it should cost $100.

So the DOJ checks your name, gets a no and will not investigate you... for NOW. If they win the case list, they will have a nice list of names that (in their eyes) have something to hide. Seriously: Good luck!

DavieVegas 06-23-2005 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PR_Tom
The DOJ wont have the list. Only the "special master" will see it, and compare names of DOJ target with FSC member list. It'll probably be a judge.

blakkfrogg, if you earn between 0 and 100k per year, it should cost $100.

not true..i called and they told me $300 no matter what u make..income never came up

abyss_al 06-23-2005 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KRosh
All of you who say are so proud to be in Canada ..This affects you also. If you don't have sponsors here in the US where are you going to send your traffic ?? if You are a site owner in Canada and your webmasters are from US how do you propose they do business with you>???


This affects all of us. We need to stick together :2 cents:


yep... :thumbsup

seeric 06-23-2005 03:18 PM

this fucking "deal" smells of $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Not Working 06-23-2005 03:18 PM

also, please be aware, as was discussed in San Diego, and Michelle can confirms this, you, your parteners AND, I say AND your business entity must also be members to have the agreement be in effect for you.


If I am wrong about this, will someone from the FSC please correct me.

bringer 06-23-2005 03:18 PM

i wonder if the people who've signed up in the past week will even been on the list if its cut off day is june 25

KRosh 06-23-2005 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DavieVegas
not true..i called and they told me $300 no matter what u make..income never came up


http://www.freespeechcoalition.com/c...es=Corpor ate

go there

GoodGuy 06-23-2005 03:19 PM

ONLY until September 7, 2005???? only 3 more months... i thought it will be at least 3 or 4 more years... nothing changes here.

fireorange 06-23-2005 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord Aga
And you might just make $200 with your $5000 of traffic!

:1orglaugh :thumbsup

Mr Pheer 06-23-2005 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Happypeekers
I just dont know if I want my name on a list that will be turned over to the gov.

I'm amazed at how many people cant comprehend what they read.

LaoTzu 06-23-2005 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by numbersguy
to put it in simple terms, YES

Damn... Not sure how being a member helps me then since I'm 100% compliant. I suppose it will help a lot of others who need more time...

Choker 06-23-2005 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by triumph
Choker what are the difference in the dollar tables of the aplication to the FSC? Is that how much your company grosses? I want to join.

Your net I think. I don't think FSC is going to be checking your financial records.

Choker 06-23-2005 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bringer
i wonder if the people who've signed up in the past week will even been on the list if its cut off day is june 25

Michelle said that as long as your app is in their office by the cutoff date you are fine.

blakkfrogg 06-23-2005 03:23 PM

"Sounds like the list is for people who DONT want to comply."

I have to say that I disagree with that statement. Yeah, sure, some people are always going to throw money around to they can scoff at the laws but some people like myself, in this case, have worked YEARS to build a legitimate business based upon the existing statutes. Small in size compared to a lot of the businesses whose owners post here, but it's MY business and if it behooves me to spend a few dollars to KEEP my business because I don't think the gov't will EVER stop persecuting those of us in the adult industry, then so be it. BUT the expense has to fit in my budget, too! That's important, ya' heard?

Probono 06-23-2005 03:23 PM

I want to scream this out loud since some of you cannot read and understand. This only applies to the plaintiffs in the lawsuit including FSC members and all it does is buy time to get your records in order. Unless a permanent injunction is granted this is still law effective June 23 2005.

triumph 06-23-2005 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Choker
Your net I think. I don't think FSC is going to be checking your financial records.

thanks for the info! :thumbsup

Sarah_Jayne 06-23-2005 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Happypeekers
I just dont know if I want my name on a list that will be turned over to the gov.


yeah...i can offially now never be president

TaDoW 06-23-2005 03:24 PM

that is soooooooo choice

HAPPYPEEKERS 06-23-2005 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrPheer
I'm amazed at how many people cant comprehend what they read.

I can comprehend what I read asshole :321GFY

and this should make everyone nervous.. not just me.

Dont be a dickhead :winkwink:

KRosh 06-23-2005 03:26 PM

You do NOT have to pay $300


CLICK LINK TO SEE HOW MUCH MEMBERSHIP COSTS!!

http://www.freespeechcoalition.com/c...es=Corpor ate

Socks 06-23-2005 03:29 PM

Says websites $300 PER.

Dance Clubs, Retail/Rental Stores, Websites $300 per yr.
(per site)

blakkfrogg 06-23-2005 03:30 PM

I understand the page sent to me to print, fill out, etc., but can someone tell me the criteria that would entitle me to the corporate rates on that page? I file a separate business return (Schedule C) with my company name on it each year with my regular 'ole 1040 return each year, but have never incorporated or anything like that....

blakkfrogg 06-23-2005 03:33 PM

"Dance Clubs, Retail/Rental Stores, Websites $300 per yr. (per site)"

Pretty certain that means physical locations that have websites must pay $300 per website.

Damian_Maxcash 06-23-2005 03:34 PM

I havent read the thread, but I saw the news a while ago.

Well done Choker!! I know you wont be so brash. So I will say it for you.

"I told you so! FSC is worth joining"

Why 06-23-2005 03:47 PM

ill pay but that doesnt mean i like this bullshit that the FSC is pulling.

bringer 06-23-2005 03:50 PM

anyone know if their offices are open 24/7 for phone orders

Raven 06-23-2005 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by numbersguy
also, please be aware, as was discussed in San Diego, and Michelle can confirms this, you, your parteners AND, I say AND your business entity must also be members to have the agreement be in effect for you.


If I am wrong about this, will someone from the FSC please correct me.

You are not wrong. Greg Piccionelli explained that lawyers do not have the time to decide whether or not your corporate structure was set up correctly, so he recommends that you join both as a corporation and as individuals, which include all officers of your corporation.

mikesouth 06-23-2005 03:57 PM

OK yall read that again specially the part about UNTIL the court rules on the injunction.

IF the injunction is granted it could be MANY years before it can be enforced.

I dont know enough to know if this could have been as a class action status and encompassed everyone or not but bottom line all that has happened as of today is that the FSC has bought 40 some odd days.

the news is hardly THAT Great

a ruling that in its current form 2257 is unconstitutional on just about every level would be much better.

That said I do want to give the FSC some credit for picking up the fight on this...I have been critical of them in the past, this time they are doing the right thing and deserve support.


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