What 2257 statements are you waiting for? - GoFuckYourself.com

Sly · 06-20-2005, 12:04 PM

Several sponsors have yet to say boo regarding 2257 and I'm getting a little ancy. To delete or not to delete...

Here are the ones I'm waiting for, add yours:
Pimp Roll
Nasty Dollars and BBO (supposedly will be announced soon)
Adult Players Club (again, soon)
Perfect Gonzo (hunch they won't make a statement period)

DWB · 06-20-2005, 12:08 PM

I think a lot of people are not going to say anything until the 23rd. Until then, why jump the gun?

After Shock Media · 06-20-2005, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy

I think a lot of people are not going to say anything until the 23rd. Until then, why jump the gun?

To umm whats that phrase, oh yeah give affiliates time to get compliant in time.

Sly · 06-20-2005, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy

I think a lot of people are not going to say anything until the 23rd. Until then, why jump the gun?

Don't you think that puts quite a bit of pressure on affiliates?

SykkBoy · 06-20-2005, 12:15 PM

I've already dropped/deleted sponsors I haven't heard from yet
I'm not going to wait until the 23rd for them to finally decide what they are going to do....they can hang their own asses out there, but I won't hang mine out...I've found plenty of sponsors that have policies I can live with and make money with without worrying about it...

kristin · 06-20-2005, 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sly

Several sponsors have yet to say boo regarding 2257 and I'm getting a little ancy. To delete or not to delete...

Here are the ones I'm waiting for, add yours:
Pimp Roll
Nasty Dollars and BBO (supposedly will be announced soon)
Adult Players Club (again, soon)
Perfect Gonzo (hunch they won't make a statement period)

I'm just curious why you think PG won't make a statement? Not being an ass, seriously just curious.

I'm looking forward to ND statement cause they have a TON of content and webmasters. I've always been a HUGE fan of ND ... their tours have 18+ pages of girls, they are a top sponsor in my eyes.

Sly · 06-20-2005, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by kristin

I'm just curious why you think PG won't make a statement? Not being an ass, seriously just curious.

I'm looking forward to ND statement cause they have a TON of content and webmasters. I've always been a HUGE fan of ND ... their tours have 18+ pages of girls, they are a top sponsor in my eyes.

I'm confident ND and BBO will be fine.

I don't think PG will make a statement, or at least one that I and other affiliates will like (haha), because from what I understand a good chunk, if not all, of their business is outside of the United States. On top of that, their girls are European, from what I understand there are European privacy laws that will not allow them to release IDs. Now many will say "use softcore content"... ok, how exactly do I promote a cum swapping site with softcore content? Sure it can be done, but not efficiently...

Pipecrew · 06-20-2005, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly

I'm confident ND and BBO will be fine.

I don't think PG will make a statement, or at least one that I and other affiliates will like (haha), because from what I understand a good chunk, if not all, of their business is outside of the United States. On top of that, their girls are European, from what I understand there are European privacy laws that will not allow them to release IDs. Now many will say "use softcore content"... ok, how exactly do I promote a cum swapping site with softcore content? Sure it can be done, but not efficiently...

Bangbros and Nastydollars will be releasing very shortly, we just want to do it on the same day.. Finishing touches on both ends.

Topbuxom Lea · 06-20-2005, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by kristin

I'm just curious why you think PG won't make a statement? Not being an ass, seriously just curious.

I'm looking forward to ND statement cause they have a TON of content and webmasters. I've always been a HUGE fan of ND ... their tours have 18+ pages of girls, they are a top sponsor in my eyes.

they are a top sponsor in my eyes.[/QUOTE]

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

eroswebmaster · 06-20-2005, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Topbuxom Lee

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

LOL she sod A top sponsor...not THE top sponsor...hell EveilGeniusCash is that ;)

crockett · 06-20-2005, 01:27 PM

Did Silver Cash, TCG or Triple X Cash ever release theirs?

These sponsors are really putting us affiliates in a bind by waiting so long to announce.

Manowar · 06-20-2005, 01:28 PM

TrafficCashGold, Silvercash

fireorange · 06-20-2005, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly

Now many will say "use softcore content"... ok, how exactly do I promote a cum swapping site with softcore content? Sure it can be done, but not efficiently...

You make a softcore thumb and link to FHG that has hardcore content.

Next.

Topbuxom Lea · 06-20-2005, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by eroswebmaster

LOL she sod A top sponsor...not THE top sponsor...hell EveilGeniusCash is that ;)

FilthyRob · 06-20-2005, 01:30 PM

I have been taking down pic galleries and my old AVS pages for days.

eroswebmaster · 06-20-2005, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by eroswebmaster

LOL she sod A top sponsor...not THE top sponsor...hell EveilGeniusCash is that ;)

Damn I have to quit typing so fast...LOL

Tom_PM · 06-20-2005, 01:33 PM

PimpRoll will have a system in place to address US and Non-US webmasters concerns.

New promo materials will be out shortly, and free content if you really need it.

Check on pimprollers message board over the next couple of days for any updates and final plans.

ChrisExtreme · 06-20-2005, 01:34 PM

A lot of affiliate programs have not made statements and at this point even if they do its going to be difficult to get everything in order. Time is running out and for me personally if I don't have answers by the end of today I'm going to start deleting content from my server and close up certain affiliate accounts. I know how much work this is for affiliate programs but affiliates need to be in the loop also.

webair · 06-20-2005, 01:38 PM

here's ours (for now):

As many of you are aware, the record keeping and inspection requirements of the Child Protection and Obscenity Enforcement Act of 1988, 18 U.S.C. § 2257 et seq. (as amended) were recently amended by the Department of Justice. The amended regulations, which take effect on June 23, 2005, include a number of significant changes from the current regulations. Compliance with the amended requirements is likely to prove both complicated and expensive for providers of adult content.

Many customers have inquired about the impact the amended regulations will have on Webair. Webair does not maintain records under the current § 2257 regulations because, as an Internet Service Provider, Webair does not believe it falls within the definition of a ?producer? of adult content for the purposes of § 2257. The amended regulations include two new sections, CFR part 75 (c)(4)(iv) and (v), that specifically relate to providers of hosting and electronic communication services. As Webair interprets them, the new sections do not impose any new obligations on hosting providers.

As amended, CFR part 75 (c)(4)(iv) provides that ?[p]roducer does not include persons whose activities relating to the visual depiction of actual sexually explicit conduct are limited to the following: . .[a] provider of web-hosting services who does not, and reasonably cannot, manage the sexually explicit content of the computer site or service?. CFR part 75 (c)(4)(v) similarly excludes ?[a] provider of an electronic communication service or remote computing service who does not, and reasonably cannot, manage the sexually explicit content of the computer site or service.? In adopting these sections, the DOJ noted:

Twenty-four commenters commented that the exclusion of providers of web-hosting services who do not manage the content of the site or service is vague and may be under-inclusive because some services manage or control certain website content, e.g., advertisements, but not the sexually explicit content. According to the commenters, it is similarly unclear whether editing content only for copyright infringement purposes would constitute control of content. The Department adopts this comment. The exclusion of providers of web- hosting services who reasonably cannot manage the content of the site will be clarified to exclude providers of web-hosting services who reasonably cannot manage the sexually explicit content of the site (for either technical or contractual reasons).

For both technical and contractual reasons, Webair does not, and reasonably cannot, manage the sexually explicit content that its clients place on its servers. Accordingly, Webair does not anticipate any change in its day-to-day operations as a result of the amended regulations.

kristin · 06-20-2005, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Topbuxom Lee

they are a top sponsor in my eyes.

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm[/QUOTE]

Lee, Lee, Lee ...

I said a top sponsor, do a search for the people I have named as top sponsors... I always respond TopBucks and NastyDollars...no shit.

This thread just never mentioned TopBucks. : )

xxxjay · 06-20-2005, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy

I think a lot of people are not going to say anything until the 23rd. Until then, why jump the gun?

Exactly - ND, BBO, OCCash - the big boys...the guys that can practicly print their own money know what's up.

The is no way 2257 goes through on Thursday without a challenge.

Topbuxom Lea · 06-20-2005, 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kristin

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Lee, Lee, Lee ...

I said a top sponsor, do a search for the people I have named as top sponsors... I always respond TopBucks and NastyDollars...no shit.

This thread just never mentioned TopBucks. : )[/QUOTE]

I'm just givin ya shit

kristin · 06-20-2005, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Topbuxom Lee

I'm just givin ya shit

You?!? NEVER! Ha! : )

Topbuxom Lea · 06-20-2005, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by kristin

You?!? NEVER! Ha! : )

Thats how you know yer loooooved....

David - PG · 06-23-2005, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Sly

I'm confident ND and BBO will be fine.

I'm sure the quality of our record keeping is second to none, both in amount of total documents as well as in their completeness. We even file copies of models' STD tests just to be on the safe side. If you're insinuating that the quality of our records is mediocre then you're wrong.

On a different note, I am sure there are not many sponsors out there - day by day, week by week - shooting more exclusive video scenes these days than us. ND & Bangbros possibly being the only exceptions. Assuming we don't have our own records under control is just ridiculous.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sly

I don't think PG will make a statement, or at least one that I and other affiliates will like (haha), because from what I understand a good chunk, if not all, of their business is outside of the United States. On top of that, their girls are European, from what I understand there are European privacy laws that will not allow them to release IDs. Now many will say "use softcore content"... ok, how exactly do I promote a cum swapping site with softcore content? Sure it can be done, but not efficiently...

I urge people not be blinded with "European privacy laws" smoke screens. This is non-sense and on a side note, the releases we sign are not bound by EU law anyways.

For PG, nothing has changed. Wish to use hardcore content, go ahead. Wish to use softcore content, be our guest. Don't wish to use our content at all? No problem. There are many options out there.

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Sly Let's do some business! Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 31,329	What 2257 statements are you waiting for? Several sponsors have yet to say boo regarding 2257 and I'm getting a little ancy. To delete or not to delete... Here are the ones I'm waiting for, add yours: Pimp Roll Nasty Dollars and BBO (supposedly will be announced soon) Adult Players Club (again, soon) Perfect Gonzo (hunch they won't make a statement period) __________________ Vacares - Web Hosting, Domains, O365, Security & More - Paxum and BTC Accepted Windows VPS now available Great for TSS, Nifty Stats, remote work, virtual assistants, etc. Click here for more details.

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DWB Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Encrypted. Access denied. Posts: 31,779	I think a lot of people are not going to say anything until the 23rd. Until then, why jump the gun?

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06-20-2005, 01:38 PM	#19
webair Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: NYC, NY Posts: 8,531	here's ours (for now): As many of you are aware, the record keeping and inspection requirements of the Child Protection and Obscenity Enforcement Act of 1988, 18 U.S.C. § 2257 et seq. (as amended) were recently amended by the Department of Justice. The amended regulations, which take effect on June 23, 2005, include a number of significant changes from the current regulations. Compliance with the amended requirements is likely to prove both complicated and expensive for providers of adult content. Many customers have inquired about the impact the amended regulations will have on Webair. Webair does not maintain records under the current § 2257 regulations because, as an Internet Service Provider, Webair does not believe it falls within the definition of a ?producer? of adult content for the purposes of § 2257. The amended regulations include two new sections, CFR part 75 (c)(4)(iv) and (v), that specifically relate to providers of hosting and electronic communication services. As Webair interprets them, the new sections do not impose any new obligations on hosting providers. As amended, CFR part 75 (c)(4)(iv) provides that ?[p]roducer does not include persons whose activities relating to the visual depiction of actual sexually explicit conduct are limited to the following: . .[a] provider of web-hosting services who does not, and reasonably cannot, manage the sexually explicit content of the computer site or service?. CFR part 75 (c)(4)(v) similarly excludes ?[a] provider of an electronic communication service or remote computing service who does not, and reasonably cannot, manage the sexually explicit content of the computer site or service.? In adopting these sections, the DOJ noted: Twenty-four commenters commented that the exclusion of providers of web-hosting services who do not manage the content of the site or service is vague and may be under-inclusive because some services manage or control certain website content, e.g., advertisements, but not the sexually explicit content. According to the commenters, it is similarly unclear whether editing content only for copyright infringement purposes would constitute control of content. The Department adopts this comment. The exclusion of providers of web- hosting services who reasonably cannot manage the content of the site will be clarified to exclude providers of web-hosting services who reasonably cannot manage the sexually explicit content of the site (for either technical or contractual reasons). For both technical and contractual reasons, Webair does not, and reasonably cannot, manage the sexually explicit content that its clients place on its servers. Accordingly, Webair does not anticipate any change in its day-to-day operations as a result of the amended regulations. __________________ ~ Webair Dedicated Cloud Servers™ ~ WEBAIR VSYS™ Virtual Hosting Platform ~ Superior CDN Network ~ ~ Managed Dedicated hosting Specialists ~ DISCOUNT DOMAIN NAMES! ~ WEBAIR FUSION IO MANAGED CLOUD SERVERS! ~ *ICQ:* 243116321 - *TWITTER* - @WEBAIRINC - E-Mail: [email protected]