June 23rd, if you are not ready, then... - GoFuckYourself.com

Redrob · 06-21-2005, 10:15 PM

Before midnight, why not put up a page with a "Temporarily out of Service" notice or "Updating Servers" notice so you don't get 404 messages.

While waiting for the result of FSC's hearing, take the day and do some serious maintenance, upgrades and backups to your systems and finish getting compliant if you can.

After the hearing, you will know what needs to be done.

sniperwolf · 06-21-2005, 10:26 PM

hmm.. ncie idea~

jayeff · 06-21-2005, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Redrob

After the hearing, you will know what needs to be done.

No you won't...

If the injunction is granted, the effect should be to halt prosecutions until the issues raised are resolved. It may also extend to halting inspections, but what it is unlikely to do is to stop the DOJ collecting information to be used later if 2257 if not overthrown completely, or substantially changed.

It is not only possible, but since I cannot imagine whoever the DOJ have lined up to work on this just sitting on their hands, likely, that from June 23 they will be collecting screenshots of sites to compare with the owners' records if they inspect later. So if you are not compliant, you had better hope this incarnation of 2257 never happens.

And just to anticipate the reaction here when the injunction is granted, just remember that to give a temporary restraining order, the judge only has to be convinced that the plaintiffs have raised some potentially valid issues. But granting a TRO is not any kind of judgement on the issues themselves: that doesn't happen until after the parties have presented their cases in detail. A victory tomorrow will obviously be better than a loss, but it is only a very small first step in the right direction.

thonglife · 06-21-2005, 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redrob

Before midnight, why not put up a page with a "Temporarily out of Service" notice or "Updating Servers" notice so you don't get 404 messages.

While waiting for the result of FSC's hearing, take the day and do some serious maintenance, upgrades and backups to your systems and finish getting compliant if you can.

After the hearing, you will know what needs to be done.

All about BAU.

Redrob · 06-21-2005, 11:03 PM

My point is to be compliant on the 23rd, and, if you are not compliant, use a temporary page to avoid 404 errors.

This meant to be a short terms solution for only a day or two. You don't need to read more into the post than was stated. No legal arguements needed.

If you are not compliant, cover your ass without being delisted for 404 errors by your affiliate sponsors. Use the day for something positive. And, you can comeback when you figure out how to be compliant, or, the 2257 regs are tossed (praise Jesus, a miracle!).

chadglni · 06-21-2005, 11:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jayeff

No you won't...

If the injunction is granted, the effect should be to halt prosecutions until the issues raised are resolved. It may also extend to halting inspections, but what it is unlikely to do is to stop the DOJ collecting information to be used later if 2257 if not overthrown completely, or substantially changed.

It is not only possible, but since I cannot imagine whoever the DOJ have lined up to work on this just sitting on their hands, likely, that from June 23 they will be collecting screenshots of sites to compare with the owners' records if they inspect later. So if you are not compliant, you had better hope this incarnation of 2257 never happens.

And just to anticipate the reaction here when the injunction is granted, just remember that to give a temporary restraining order, the judge only has to be convinced that the plaintiffs have raised some potentially valid issues. But granting a TRO is not any kind of judgement on the issues themselves: that doesn't happen until after the parties have presented their cases in detail. A victory tomorrow will obviously be better than a loss, but it is only a very small first step in the right direction.

When the DOJ suprises the fuck out of everyone and arrests them for the galleries they took off their server before June 23rd this entire industry will shut down in America.

2257-Ben · 06-21-2005, 11:24 PM

And remember, the injuction, whatever breadth it has, will ONLY apply to members of the FSC... so if you're not a member you had better get with the program.

06-21-2005, 10:15 PM	#1
Redrob Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: In a refrigerator box by the tracks. Posts: 4,791	June 23rd, if you are not ready, then... Before midnight, why not put up a page with a "Temporarily out of Service" notice or "Updating Servers" notice so you don't get 404 messages. While waiting for the result of FSC's hearing, take the day and do some serious maintenance, upgrades and backups to your systems and finish getting compliant if you can. After the hearing, you will know what needs to be done.

06-21-2005, 10:26 PM	#2
sniperwolf Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 17,743	hmm.. ncie idea~ __________________ ~Accepting design works~

06-21-2005, 11:24 PM	#7
2257-Ben Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Dinuba, CA Posts: 633	And remember, the injuction, whatever breadth it has, will ONLY apply to members of the FSC... so if you're not a member you had better get with the program. __________________ 2257-Ben www.2257ware.com The BEST, most compliant 2257 record-keeping software available. Period.

06-21-2005, 11:03 PM	#5
Redrob Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: In a refrigerator box by the tracks. Posts: 4,791	My point is to be compliant on the 23rd, and, if you are not compliant, use a temporary page to avoid 404 errors. This meant to be a short terms solution for only a day or two. You don't need to read more into the post than was stated. No legal arguements needed. If you are not compliant, cover your ass without being delisted for 404 errors by your affiliate sponsors. Use the day for something positive. And, you can comeback when you figure out how to be compliant, or, the 2257 regs are tossed (praise Jesus, a miracle!).