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xxxjay 06-21-2005 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy
This is a great idea and those of you who think your going to be tossed to the floor, cuffed and hauled off to prison (over phones down or bad files) need to come back to reality.

The same argument could be said about other problems that could happen. WHAT IF on that day your computer crashes and you can't pull your records as fast as you would like. Or your out to lunch when they come. Your key to the file breaks off. A power outage even... are you going to jail? Of course not.

Though they are authority, they are not going to raid you SWAT style searching for the first mix up to toss your ass in the big house.
Our lawyer says they will not even cuff you on the spot unless they find drugs or something. Thye will go back to the station or whatever and will draw up charges.

In the meantime, you will have 48 hours to flee the country.

He also tells us that 2257 is bullshit and it will never some down to this. Wait and see on Thursday.

Mr.Fiction 06-21-2005 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by xxxjay

In the meantime, you will have 48 hours to flee the country.
http://cmp1.ucr.edu/essays/edward_ea.../oj_bronco.GIF

Steve_NCH 06-21-2005 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Dirty Dane
Probably ND will stay in biz, but what about smaller programs? Will they provide all keys if they stop or be instant available 4 years later? ; if you post a gallery in 2006, the program stops in 2008... according to the law, the feds can visit you, lets say in 2009 and request ID verification for something you posted 3 years ago.
I can't believe nobody's picked up on this excellent point.

This encrypted docs solution is a very short term solution. There's no guarantee, however improbable, that Nasty Dollars will be around in 3 or 4 years to answer the phone and give you the password for a file for a gallery you'd forgotten you even made.

Much can change in 3 or 4 years in this industry, I wouldn't want my fate in the hands of a sponsor no matter how big they are right now. :2 cents:

Pipecrew 06-21-2005 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Steve_NCH
I can't believe nobody's picked up on this excellent point.

This encrypted docs solution is a very short term solution. There's no guarantee, however improbable, that Nasty Dollars will be around in 3 or 4 years to answer the phone and give you the password for a file for a gallery you'd forgotten you even made.

Much can change in 3 or 4 years in this industry, I wouldn't want my fate in the hands of a sponsor no matter how big they are right now. :2 cents:
If you had said the same thing in 1997, you would of been proven wrong last year.. I'am not worried, also if they are gone, what are you doing still promoting them? Delete the content off your servers.

dopeman 06-21-2005 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Pipecrew
If you had said the same thing in 1997, you would of been proven wrong last year.. I'am not worried, also if they are gone, what are you doing still promoting them? Delete the content off your servers.
because secondary producers are on the hook for at least 5 years after they publish the image. deleting it won't change the fact that it was published. if ND goes under in 3 years (big companies go under all the time for various reasons), affiliates who have pushing them are completely fucked (if they don't have the key to unlock the content).

basschick 06-21-2005 07:50 PM
there is no way your lawyer could know this, since most of the new regs are, well, new. also in the past, there have been no inspections - so if there ARE inspections now, no one here has gone through them.

considering how careful lawyers are, i can't imagine one making such a statement.

Quote:
Originally Posted by xxxjay
Our lawyer says they will not even cuff you on the spot unless they find drugs or something. Thye will go back to the station or whatever and will draw up charges.

In the meantime, you will have 48 hours to flee the country.

He also tells us that 2257 is bullshit and it will never some down to this. Wait and see on Thursday.

basschick 06-21-2005 08:01 PM
i have been through some weird stuff with law enforcement, and i am a woman, which has led to problems of its own. i was commenting on everyone else in this thread, who sound like middle-class white guys.

my experiences with law enforcement lead me to NOT seek more of it.

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Originally Posted by gideongallery
let me guess your not a visiable minority are you.


I have actually been question by the police when former employee accused me of stealing a hard drive from a machine that was bought with no hard drive at all because the officer decided it wasn't necessary to get any proof of ownership before he came to my house

xxxjay 06-21-2005 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by basschick

considering how careful lawyers are, i can't imagine one making such a statement.
One that know how over the top and unconstitutional the laws are will know. Read up a little yourself or try and consult a lawyer that you trust and is not just trying to scare you into more billable hours.

Kimmykim 06-21-2005 08:48 PM
Frankly I think the way that ND is choosing to handle the situation, coupled with scoremans comments, is dead on with what I think.

I know people who've been prosecuted by the evil Republicans in the White House the last time around. While it's not pretty, I don't seem to recall a single one of them saying they were hauled off in handcuffs at their office when they were given notice of their infractions.

Once again, Chicken Little's in the house it seems.


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