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|  06-18-2005, 02:39 PM | #1 | 
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				 |  The Google un-PR Worthyness effect Some of you may have noticed that sites wich are of high value in Google are set to PR 0, the folowing example shows that Google is using a difrent method to determ the popularity value of a page: http://www.google.com/search?sourcei...homes+for+sale The 4th entry is a PR0 page! Anyone else notices the un-PR Worthyness effect ? 
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|  06-18-2005, 02:45 PM | #2 | 
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				 | Your retarded. Any more stupid observations from a "seo" | 
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|  06-18-2005, 02:49 PM | #3 | |
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 what is your point ? | |
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|  06-18-2005, 02:51 PM | #4 | 
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				 | This breakthrough discovery will change the field of SEO forever...   
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|  06-18-2005, 02:52 PM | #5 | 
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				 | Worthiness sir | 
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|  06-18-2005, 02:54 PM | #6 | 
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				 | I'm just suggesting that there is something else that is defining the popularity value of a page, something far more complex then PageRank. http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=...ogle+directory In regards that all content on the internet should be findable while quality is preserved, there should be a value like pagerank for google to measure the populairity value of every page. I would like to find out how to otain knowledge about that value. 
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|  06-18-2005, 02:56 PM | #7 | |
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 the root url is PR 8 just because the tool bar doesn't show what you exprect it to show doesn't mean that google does not see that page as improtant there are other many factors other than pagerank | |
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|  06-18-2005, 03:01 PM | #8 | |
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|  06-18-2005, 03:13 PM | #9 | 
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				 | lol..................................ohhhh boy | 
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|  06-18-2005, 03:38 PM | #10 | 
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				 | I have a PR0 site with a google placement nr8 of  3.870 with the danish word for "ink" (printer color) Gives me more than 400 daily hits from google alone So take that PR and stick it up your ass, because its not a indicator, and if you know ANYTHING avout SEO, you shold already know that | 
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|  06-18-2005, 03:39 PM | #11 | |
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   Btw, a few will be in New Orleans this week. I'm going to a seminar where they are fielding questions, if some enlightening info get's revealed I'll post here. | |
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|  06-19-2005, 06:11 PM | #12 | 
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				 | Advice: If you're trying to market yourself as a professional SEO, then don't make such obvious and moronic statements.    | 
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|  06-19-2005, 06:27 PM | #13 | 
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				 | I'm really working on a solution to determ the SE popularity value of a page as determed by an SE and the way the overal process of site activity has an effect on that value. I am doing so by studying SE bot behaviour and am currently searching for variables to measure responses. 
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|  06-19-2005, 06:40 PM | #14 | |
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|  06-19-2005, 06:42 PM | #15 | 
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				 | PR is updated every 3-4 months now.  Google has stated that they update internally constantly.  You could have a PR6 page in Google's mind, but showing up as 0 on the toolbar.   Are you charging people for this SEO? | 
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|  06-19-2005, 06:45 PM | #16 | |
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|  06-19-2005, 07:05 PM | #17 | |
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 Imagine that google wants to have instant knowledge about the value of each page in order to generate fast results while preserving the findability of all (valuable) content on the internet, it would require a verry complex value in wich a lot of variables are effecting the "value". I'm about to go into 2 months of intensive SE bot behaviour study and have therefor posted this thread. 
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|  06-19-2005, 07:27 PM | #18 | |
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 Sorry I can't help but to laugh.      
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|  06-19-2005, 07:29 PM | #19 | 
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				 | adultseo and MrChips are both fake nicks   | 
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|  06-19-2005, 07:31 PM | #20 | 
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				 | am i the only one here who thinks this is a joke? | 
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|  06-19-2005, 07:48 PM | #23 | |
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|  06-19-2005, 11:23 PM | #24 | |
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 I hope this is a joke. | |
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|  06-19-2005, 11:30 PM | #25 | |
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|  06-20-2005, 12:07 AM | #26 | 
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				 |  idiot | 
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|  06-20-2005, 12:16 AM | #27 | 
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				 | Google is using the url registered date as the importance of a site's pages as well as the length of time the url is registered. The scammers only register a new domain and only for one year ! Therefore a pr0 off a 10 year old site has more weight then the pr5 only a year old ? | 
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|  06-20-2005, 01:57 AM | #28 | 
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				 | this is a fake nick right? 
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|  06-20-2005, 02:16 AM | #29 | |
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  Including the history of activity process regarding "subjects" on a site, I am working on a system to program SE bots to learn this activity in the way the siteowner wants. 
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|  06-20-2005, 02:31 AM | #30 | 
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				 | adultseo: only 50k pages contain your keywords... pretty low. I have pr0 pages listed #1 for 300k pages and up 
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|  06-20-2005, 05:26 AM | #31 | 
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				 | its monday, time to ugh, hrmph MOOOOOOOOOO | 
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|  06-20-2005, 05:33 AM | #32 | |
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|  06-20-2005, 06:11 AM | #33 | |
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|  06-20-2005, 10:30 AM | #34 | |
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|  06-20-2005, 10:34 AM | #35 | |
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|  06-21-2005, 09:20 AM | #36 | |
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 this page is a PR3 idiot you look too much at this googlebar crap :P | |
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|  06-21-2005, 09:33 AM | #37 | 
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				 | It's almost like google uses something other than pagerank to determine search rankings.............. | 
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|  06-21-2005, 09:38 AM | #38 | |
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|  06-21-2005, 10:41 AM | #39 | 
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				 | yet another moron - like the other guy who bought an expired pr domain and built a bunch of doorways on it last month, got listed then banned and now he is telling people this same crap and charges usd 1000 
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|  03-12-2007, 06:42 PM | #40 | 
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				 | just saying HI! hahahaahahahhaha | 
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|  03-12-2007, 06:43 PM | #41 | 
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				 | All the best ranked sites in google are hosted in close proximity to a google datacenter or bot farm.  The further away you are, the less likely you are to get good search results. | 
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|  03-12-2007, 06:49 PM | #42 | |
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|  03-12-2007, 07:19 PM | #43 | 
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				 | Looks like this guy tried to do the refresh to google with his own site and screwed it up LOL - so much for un-PR | 
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