I hope the only reason Hawgs Cash closed down was not 2257 because injunction coming - GoFuckYourself.com

martyVP · 06-17-2005, 11:34 AM

most likely we will get an injunction on this ruling.

This is from my lawyers btw....I am not just guessing

pornguy · 06-17-2005, 11:35 AM

I did not know that they closed down. when did that happen??

riddler · 06-17-2005, 11:36 AM

bling bling

martyVP · 06-17-2005, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by riddler

umm, explain? what does the injunction have to do with leaving the business?

It most likely means that the new rules will not be enforced, how hard is that to understand?

UniversalPassLorence · 06-17-2005, 11:38 AM

Yes, I heard it from our lawyer, also.

pradaboy · 06-17-2005, 11:40 AM

hmmm interesting...

riddler · 06-17-2005, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by martyVP

It most likely means that the new rules will not be enforced, how hard is that to understand?

as i edited i read your title wrong, I thought it said they was closing because of the injunction my bad !!!!

martyVP · 06-17-2005, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by riddler

as i edited i read your title wrong, I thought it said they was closing because of the injunction my bad !!!!

No problemo

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 06-17-2005, 11:43 AM

iT WAS KINDA ODD..

mAKES NO SENSE.

riddler · 06-17-2005, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by AlienQ

iT WAS KINDA ODD..

mAKES NO SENSE.

caplock stick on you ?

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 06-17-2005, 11:49 AM

Yup.

Eheheheh

StuartD · 06-17-2005, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by martyVP

It most likely means that the new rules will not be enforced, how hard is that to understand?

Well, the injunction doesn't mean that ALL of the new rules won't be enforced.... most likely the "vague" and/or rules that cause an unreasonable burden will changed or removed.... otherwise I wouldn't expect the new law to just go away.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 06-17-2005, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by NichePay - StuartD

Well, the injunction doesn't mean that ALL of the new rules won't be enforced.... most likely the "vague" and/or rules that cause an unreasonable burden will changed or removed.... otherwise I wouldn't expect the new law to just go away.

Translation, yes 2257 will updated however it will be effectively castrated?

riddler · 06-17-2005, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by NichePay - StuartD

Well, the injunction doesn't mean that ALL of the new rules won't be enforced.... most likely the "vague" and/or rules that cause an unreasonable burden will changed or removed.... otherwise I wouldn't expect the new law to just go away.

if the secondary producer part gets dropped that will be a fucking shit load of trouble off sponsors chests.

Pipecrew · 06-17-2005, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by NichePay - StuartD

Well, the injunction doesn't mean that ALL of the new rules won't be enforced.... most likely the "vague" and/or rules that cause an unreasonable burden will changed or removed.... otherwise I wouldn't expect the new law to just go away.

It is truly scary how many people are not and have not been prepared for this.. You seriously should not be in business if you did not have a plan for this, banking on an injunction that may or may not happen, is very risky in my opinion.

StuartD · 06-17-2005, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Pipecrew

It is truly scary how many people are not and have not been prepared for this.. You seriously should not be in business if you did not have a plan for this, banking on an injunction that may or may not happen, is very risky in my opinion.

Agreed... in this case, it's better to be careful than hopeful.

Peaches · 06-17-2005, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Pipecrew

It is truly scary how many people are not and have not been prepared for this.. You seriously should not be in business if you did not have a plan for this, banking on an injunction that may or may not happen, is very risky in my opinion.

Who's to say closing wasn't "the plan"? I know if I had a small program and it was going to take 100's of man hours to track down info I'd be shutting it down and starting over again. I removed all the content from my free sites and will be buying new content. That will take substantially less time and money than getting full 2257 from all the content providers I've purchased from over the past 7+ years, cross referencing the info, having my home address as a record keeper, etc.

WiredGuy · 06-17-2005, 12:08 PM

Shutting down is a viable option if you consider the amount of time/resources it might take to become fully compliant. Especially if you own another program which is already compliant.

WG

Stephen · 06-17-2005, 12:30 PM

Citing 2257 Problems, HawgsCash Shuts Down

Adult affiliate program HawgsCash has announced that it is shutting down due to the new 2257 regulations. The company has recommended that affiliates remove all free content and banners it distributed because the implied licenses on the material will be rescinded on June 20.

FULL REPORT > http://xbiz.com/news_piece.php?id=9173

Pipecrew · 06-17-2005, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Peaches

Who's to say closing wasn't "the plan"? I know if I had a small program and it was going to take 100's of man hours to track down info I'd be shutting it down and starting over again. I removed all the content from my free sites and will be buying new content. That will take substantially less time and money than getting full 2257 from all the content providers I've purchased from over the past 7+ years, cross referencing the info, having my home address as a record keeper, etc.

It's more like a reality check, if you are closing down, you are basically saying "I would be completely fucked if the Gov came knocking at my door" in reality, you should of ALWAYS been compliant incase they came knocking a year ago and wanted to do a records check..

Thomas N · 06-17-2005, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by WiredGuy

Shutting down is a viable option if you consider the amount of time/resources it might take to become fully compliant. Especially if you own another program which is already compliant.

WG

DOES hawgscash own another program that is already compliant?

$tandaman · 06-17-2005, 12:48 PM

they are not really closing down, they forwarded their traffic to another program of theirs.. so.. it's not that bad

Alky · 06-17-2005, 12:48 PM

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DOES hawgscash own another program that is already compliant?

yes Adult Players Club

GatorB · 06-17-2005, 12:51 PM

I'll beeive and injunction is coming when one actually does. And even so doesn't mean the DOJ can't appeal that to a higher court.

WiredGuy · 06-17-2005, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by SwordFish

DOES hawgscash own another program that is already compliant?

Yes, APC.
WG

Thomas N · 06-17-2005, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by WiredGuy

Yes, APC.
WG

Ah ok, thanks.

06-17-2005, 11:34 AM	#1
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Stephen Consigliere Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 1,771	Citing 2257 Problems, HawgsCash Shuts Down Adult affiliate program HawgsCash has announced that it is shutting down due to the new 2257 regulations. The company has recommended that affiliates remove all free content and banners it distributed because the implied licenses on the material will be rescinded on June 20. FULL REPORT > http://xbiz.com/news_piece.php?id=9173

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GatorB The Demon & 12clicks Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: SallyRand is a FAGGOT Posts: 18,208	I'll beeive and injunction is coming when one actually does. And even so doesn't mean the DOJ can't appeal that to a higher court.