hehe np :winkwink:

So whats the profile of a serial killer these days?

Single...WHITE...male ....


last time i checked atleast :2 cents:

I can't figure out why the average young black male thinks it's ok to commit serious crimes.

Then you look at the black ghetto counterpart in the white race, the rednecks from trailer parks. You just don't see the same level of violent crimes coming out of them even though there's far more.

As opposed to many thousands of black murderers? What's your point? When you make comments like this, you really make your entire argument weak. It borders on... wait for it.. hypocrosy(sp). You are generalizing and stereotyping.. the exact thing you are arguing DarkJedi about.

Just saying.

I don't agree with either of you on this topic -- you are both at opposite ends of a complicated spectrum when that middle ground is staring you right in the face.

That's total BS. The US is so far ahead today because all of Europe got bombed out during WW2. Their industries could not provide for the world, and it swung the momentum in our direction. Our industries were just waiting for the war to end and fill the gap.

The only point i was making here was that there are more SINGLE WHITE serial killers than any other profile of person....

they sure got a load of horsepower engine~

So?

There are more violent "black" crimes than "white". I still don't get your point. There are also more middle eastern terrorists than any other... but racial profiling is a no-no around these parts.

You are generalizing. You are stereotyping. You are using "stats" but choose to ignore other "stats". Someone brought up Detroit and it's largely black population correlating to violent crime -- but you'll pass that off as the whites supressing the blacks. If you want to use stats to back up your flimsy argument, then accept facts that counter yours without making some stupid transparent excuse that dates back over 50 years.

Again, I don't agree with either of you guys and there's much more to be found in the middle ground of this, but your comments sure aren't helping.

The reason why there are more white serial killers is because they blend into society long enough to strike multiple times before getting caught.

When you have a white serial killer living in a middle class neighborhood with no leads, he becomes much harder to capture than the black one time killer living in an area that for various reasons results in more leads.

yes.. and when you add up the numbers and read the above facts i quoted from the site, you make a really strong point. it's much worse to have 2-3 serial killers/year, than to have tens of thousands of single murder killers

:helpme

My point is not that things are happening because of a direct opression. If i came off that way thats not what i meant.


What i meant was that it is a result based off of a cumulation of events in history.....


If your are stolen from your native land, thrown into a new place where you dont know the land, dont understand the society, dont know the language, and are thrown into slavery....then you finally get something REMOTELY CLOSE to equal existance only 50 years ago...then we'll see how you are....thats what i'm saying...whether my previous points made that clear or not

no, a serial killer is not a single white killer. wtf are you talking about

huh? I didnt say that. I said that more serial killers are Single and White than them being any other type of profile....

There are black serial killers, there are mexican serial killers....but there are more Single White serial killers than there are single black, single mexican, single asian....it is the leading profile of this particular crime

And yes...I realize there are other types of criminals out there beside serial killers. Just using it as an example


Perhaps I have lost my focus on my debates as well because some people just infuriorate me so much because of their views.

We're all equal and we're products of our enviroments. Everything is cause and reaction folks. Its simple physics....blacks in general come from a worse enviroment from whites...but thats not JUST because of the color of their skin. Thats because of how they have been treated due to the color of their skin over thousands of years. Maybe in my lifetime we'll break out of these trends...but thats a lot to ask for when we're up against thousands of years of hate

Just out of nowhere, never seize to amaze me.

well how do immigrants from other countries come here where they don't know the land, don't know the society, don't know the language etc.. etc.. come and succeed then?

You're leaving one part out.. it's not today's blacks that were put in that situation. The 75 year old black dudes are not the problem here, it's the youths. There are tons of successful blacks today. If what you are arguing is true, there wouldn't really be any. It's the "why bother, The Man is just keeping me down" defeatist attitude that ruins them.

And if their parents/grandparents are feeding their minds with all the slave history, that's their fault. Sure, educate them on their history, but please... don't use it as a cop-out or a reason to fail.

There are plenty of opportunities for everyone. It's all about who wants it most. And anyone that preys on handouts does not get my respect -- no matter their race.

Sidenote:
Ever notice almost all ethnic comedians center their routine around whites? Gets laughs eh? What if all white comedians did that -- had a whole routine about blacks... oooohhh the shit storm. Remember Comedy Def Jam? I swear I never saw one routine that didn't have at least 3 "whitey" jokes. But I still laughed... to a point.

I am one of the least bit racists you'll ever meet, but there is a line. And I will call a spade a spade no matter the color of skin.

exactly.

Kids are products of their parents.....from the grand parents, to the parents, to the kids.....Its about an advancement as a whole and if the grandparents were held pack , then the parents were held back, ad if the parents were held back the kids are held back...

And about the comedy stuff. Yes, very true. Just one of those things I guess I've accepted as a way of the world....and yes, i laugh my ass off :1orglaugh


I'm white and from seattle...which makes me like double white or something. As white as white can be :) .....But i'm still way more sensitive about injustives towards minorities than i am again the majority...ie white

No doubt we're all a product of our upbringing and our culture and the fault must be shared by all involved. You can't single out "whitey" here, that would be foolish. At some point in all of our lives, we start thinking for ourselves. I was brought up Catholic, but when I hit the age of reason, that changed pretty quickly.

As for your sensitivity, how will you feel when the minorities outnumber the majority? Getting pretty close when you combine the minorities no?

All I am saying is that there has to be accountability and responsiblity. Continuing to blame "whitey" while, at the same time, they fail to educate their children about their real history -- is just plain wrong. It's a cop-out -- plain and simple. The child grows up learning to fail and "learning" where to place the blame. Blacks should be proud of how far they've come in this country, not use "whitey" as their failsafe for when things go wrong.

America is changing, and I think it's time that its inhabitants change with it. The past is the past; history is history; how about looking foward to what tomorrow brings?

My point is not to blaim whitey for the problems with blacks. We have kinda gone down a different road away from the original arguement.

My arguement is that blacks are not an inferior race. That the same events could have happend to white skinned people and the black people could have had the road the whites would have and the same thing would have happend but just with the groups switching..

that was my point from the begining...all this other stuff has been people trying to change the point that is trying to be made...

My apologies if I twisted your argument -- the beer goggles are on tonight. I don't think any race is inferior. Given the right opportunies, any race could come out on top. I think we agree more than we disagree.

Thanks for keeping this mini-debate on a mature level. It's nice to be able to present an argument without the other resorting to name calling (which seems to be tradition around here).

Oh and :321GFY (it had to be done!)

Just clicked on this thread and did not read more. You got your facts wrong...the stronger tribes in Africa sold (profit) their fellow men (men, women and children) so why would you ask them to go back :upsidedow

Back to reading the responses.

I didn't read this thread... I'm white, and I won't read this thread.
I have no "jokes". I have no inferrences.

When speaking of an "inferior" race....... there are many... white, black, chinese, japanese, sudan, or whatever...... if you can't measure up you're inferior and I don't care if your painted orange.

I hope this silly ass thread ceases now.

why is it not fair to say or even consider that one race is more successful than another? i have no problem with that.

are all races on the planet equally successful? or.. can we plot races on a "success curve"? with some more successful, some less, most average?

why not?

why are people so sensitive about it? if someone told me "Hey, Asians are much better at math than Americans" i would have no trouble with that. If someone said "black people have bigger dicks than asians" i would think "good for them". if i said "kenyans are better marathon runners than mexicans" - no one would care.

in fact, we have no trouble at all accepting these obvious differences when there are not significant negative connotations attached to them.

but when you say "blacks are less successful than japanese economically and socially (crime, welfare etc)" you are just a crazed, racist asshole?

I think this is because of 2 reasons:

1) When you're dealing with the mind versus something physical it is viewed very differently

2) In my opinion ...it is always blacks who are called to be not as smart, or not as much in control of their actions...ie ...violent.


Also, making comments like this is always dumb unless you look at the big picture.


ie....

Asians are smarter.

I mean, hell...i believe it. But i think this has to do with a strict up bringing and a white kid or a black kid for that matter in the exact same enviroment wouldnt be any more or less likely to be as smart


or how bout this one....

Black's are generally more advanced physically (more muscular)

If we go to africa we see that this is not the case. There are many tall, lanky black people. But this is a view of African-Americans. And many of these people were the decendants of slaves who were bread like farm animals to create the "super worker"

Fuck off you piece of shit. Your comparison to Europe and White people as 'the devil' is ridiculous. Should I list all the African nations who STILL participate in slave labour today? Or who force 10 year olds to fight in ethnic wars against their will? Or perhaps I could inform you of the European slave trade that was in Northern Africa not so long ago? I think the thread is midnelessly provocative but it really pisses me off when people find a way to blame everything on the white man.

Western civilisation may have been brutal in the past, as where all civilisations, but the difference is Western civilisation has evolved. Western civilisation has given women the vote, has given equal opportunity to all, has even DISCRIMINATED against its own people to please minorities, it to this day is the most free and prosporous civilisation in the world yet people still like to hammer white men down for just about everything which occured at a point in history when all the world was equally barbaric (who do you think sold the slaves in Africa - blacks, who do you think ran the major shipping companies to the USA - Jewish people, and who bought the slaves, Whites) all the while forgetting what is STILL happening today.

So here is something for you to ponder on. Rather than hammering the white man for owning slaves (who you seem to contribute the success of the USA too, lol) why don't you talk about the other participants, or why don't you think about the MILLIONS of people still enslaved today in Africa, and elsewhere, or the 10 year old boys who are abducted and forced to fight in wars they don't support, and the girls who are raped and murdered.

:321GFY

Actually the difference is not they where individually hand picked because they are strong, but because the tall lanky Africans are from East Africa, and the stronger ones are West Africans (or maybe I have it the wrong way around)? But either way, the distinction within the one 'black' race itself is not one between individuals, it is more of a sub-racial difference (like Nordic Europeans and Slavic Europeans).

Yes, this is true...and it was the more muscular "built" ones that were and perhaps in some areas still are forced to mate to create "Super Workers"

DarkJedi should write an e-book on successful gfy posting.

Black is black...you're right she's purple :1orglaugh

My friend you are and stupid asshole!!!

Thre's a sound theory she's black because various art forms have turned black as a result of certain physical factors such as: deterioration of lead-based pigments; accumulated smoke from the use of votive candles; and accumulation of grime over the ages.

Bullshit. You've had 150 years to correct this. How fucking long does it take? I could see a couple generations being fucked up but you'd think after all that oppression you'd be running out to take advantage of all your new freedoms.

Black culture just seems anti-intellectual.

Negroes seem to idolize the "easy" ways to an easy life. Hard work and education are anathema. Instead, hustling, pimping, crime, and flaunting one's ill-gotten gains are glorified. Genuinely intelligent blacks who seek to be intellectual or more agreeable careers are seen as traitors to their race, even trying to "be white".

It's easier to blame White men for everything, particularly when your brain is so underequipped to do anything more.

Blacks blaming white society is a joke.

Just look at the Asians, Mexicans, and Indians. They bust their butts and are making good of opportunities both offered (education) and made (New businesses) for themselves. If I was black, I'd be wondering why my race wasn't advancing and be very afraid and ashamed.

How many Indians are screaming "Whitey is keeping us down."?

hey dumbass-

america is home to free enterprise last fucking check. blacks are free to start there own FUBU corporations and biz's and hire all blacks if they want. its not my fault some hahahahahaha is to lazy to get a job. but i pay his welfare anyway so stop bitching or i'll come take my check back that the gov gives you for being a bum.

Why don't you talk about gang murder's. single, black, male. then compare the numbers of gang murders to the number of serial killer murders per year. the reason you here about white killers is because it abnormal. a black man killing 5+ gang members in LA is a daily affair.

How many murders were commited in the US by blacks? How many by whites?

Now, take those numbers and compare the number of blacks to whites.

Then get your calculator out

Actually it all evens out!.... My graphic here proves it:

http://www.silverscripting.com/silvertab/graph.gif

It does have some kind of a phallic shape too...interresting huh! :Graucho

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh