Dark Jedi -

If your arguement is true.... YOU'LL probably get this shit beat out of you and spend the rest of your getting fed through a tube cuz some "inferior" black dude that doesnt know any better is going ram his cock down your throat so hard that it nots a vertibate out of place :thumbsup

see.....more violence. You're black aren't you


just thought people would like a little reading.http://www.naawp.com/crime_stats.htm

im not racist, but i couldnt disagree more with this post.

white people are FORCED to give blacks a chance, even if they dont deserve it. my fiances dad is high end big dog @ at&t, they are FORCED to hire x number of blacks, and give x # of positions to blacks, even if they are underqualified (which they usually are in his case). if 2 people apply, the white guy having 10x more credentials than the black, but their is no black members on that "team", the black one has to be hired to they dont get sued.

add in that a black person with a shitty gpa can get more scholarship money than a white person with a higher gpa

and all the other shit, i dont think they have it so hard. obviously, not all blacks are worthless, and yes, there are worthless whites too.

but, theres a shitload of more black kids running around my town with shorts down to their ankles and pantyhouse on their head talking about "naw dawg what it do" than their are white kids running around saying "damn sumda bish"

those are the types that bring down their whole race. the ones that dont give a fuck about anything but gettin crunk, starting shit, and "throwin' down"

i guess your view on these issues is relevant to where you live. here in central california, everything you said isnt true. btw, i never said racism doesnt play a large role, its just not as big of a role as a kid who doesnt go to school because he's a "gangsta" like his rap hero, or his parents are on public assistance and tell their kids not to try because the white man wont let them succeed. i think your parents and community leaders telling you theres no chance to be successful is more harmful then the 1 in 20 businesses that look at your race as a determining factor.

also. as far as at&t, the entrace exam for management, black people have to make a 73 while whites have to make like an 85 or something

I checked the box saying I was black on my SATs.

I dont think you actually read my post. You would have disagreed with me. The truth is there are MORE THAN ENOUGH qualified black people and those laws are in place to make sure just a small % of them get a fair shot...

However, I will admit that oftent times they give those opportunities to the wrong people.

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Does that mean the black people NEED that? At&t did it to make themselves look good towards black people. And who runs at&t? White people :thumbsup

So who are the REAL dumbassses?

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Man sometimes I hate you but some of your posts are great :1orglaugh

50 disturbing questions...

That poor Condi Rice is a double 'minority'. She's so repressed. Let's not even start on poor, unfortunate Colin Powell(I know he's poor and unfortunate because of his stint in the Bush admin. I wept for him).

talk about pushing the limits

I 100% AGREE

You are a product of your enviroment. But here is how it works:

Nomatter what race you are, it takes a really determined person to be successful. You don't even have to be the smartest person. But DRIVE is what does it.....

Now, for thousands of years...although differently in today's times.....there IS racism going on. As i mentioned.....This is subconcious racism. This is people being more afraid of blacks than whites. This is cops tending to arrest a black person over a white person.


Life's tough....there is no way around it. Takes determination to make something of yourself. Black people are continually knocked down by whites much more than the other way around....

I am by NO MEANS saying that it is 'OKAY' for black people to just give up because of this. But the overall tendancy of the race is to give up because of this...and if the tables were turned with blacks having all the money and whites being pushed down...the EXACT same thing would happen. It has NOTHING to do with the color of their skin

There are determined blacks that get past this. But of course there is going to naturally be less % of blacks who overcome the hardships of life to make something of themselves because due to society they have a hell of a lot more hardships to overcome. If they are determined...they will still do this.


a TON of people have dumbass parents or had bad role models at one time or another....We are in a world of communication and there are many outlets to get "the truth"......Just because you grew up in bad enviroment and look up to allen iverson doesn't mean you're going to be a gang banger.

What WILL make you gang banger is people continually telling you that that is what you will become....from BLACKS AND WHITES.......

But it all comes back to white people because the black people who got convinced to tell other black people that that is who they should be were subconciously convinced this by the white population. Its just cycle that hopefully wont be never ending



I HATE cry baby minorities....I'm not saying AT ALL that we should be giving black people or any race for that matter special breaks. I'm just trying to make the point that blacks are no different than whites and if the same situations were in place but the races were flopped the exact same thing would happen

I seriously hope that this was meant in a sarcastic manor.

AT&T did it because if they didn't they would more than likely get sued for 'putting the black man down'. Benefits are being thrown in every direction except for a white person. A friend of mine works in a police recruiting office, and said unless you're a white homosexual, with 1 leg, and 13 children, there is no way in hell you're going to get a job. Obviously he was exaggurating but it gets the point across.

That being said I have nothing against, black, white, asian, whatever, it's the retarded majority within these races that creates the general hate towards the entire race as a whole.

Being politically correct nowadays is a must, and unfortunately to adhere to certain aspects of this 'policital correctness' common sense seems to be thrown out the window.

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I dont think any benefits should be thrown anyone's ways. But you have to look at the bigger picture. If att felt they would be sued by black people if they didnt make this offer then its because of a black organization. And then why does that black organization feel they need to do this? Because of year of being beat up.

Yes, its dumb and retarted.....But if I were black and had been fucked with for years on end....I'd want to do a little fucking with white people of my own :thumbsup

My opinion:

I don't think there is a "superior" or "inferior" race. Each race has it's advantages and disadvantages. Just as a small example: The Japanese are kings when it comes to education, but the blacks laugh at them when they see their penis size...

It's a fact that African countries are behind when it comes to civilization, and there's an explanation to this (I will make is very generalized):

Since humanity began, black people enjoyed simple life in sunny areas, they didn't need to work hard, because nature has given them everything they needed. that's why they seem more spoiled and have low morals today comparing to other races.

On the other hand, Nordic people had to struggle to stay alive in the cold weather and develop creativity, and also work hard.

another example is the jewish people. why are the jewish people so successful and educated (in general)? because they always had a hard time surviving as well as getting involved in the social life among non jewish citizens. for example, in many countries there were anti semitic laws according to which jewish people weren't allowed in Universities etc'. That caused the average jew to put a lot more effort in studying then the average non-jew, because the jew had to achieve excellence in order to be accepted while for the non-jew it was enough to just be "ok".

i did disagree with you. i said i couldnt disagree with you more :)

I'm sorry....but Black people living on the equator that still walk 5 miles to get a bucket of water work a hell of a lot harder than your fat ass walking down to mcdonald's for a burger and a coke. :1orglaugh

jk...well, about you being a fat ass...i cant speak about that :winkwink:



But if you look at where black people were at the begining of the united states ...and where they are now....my personal opinion is that they have advanced a hell of a lot more than white people.


White people came from english speaking, with formal education (in the way that we think of education).....

...They have overcome slavery.....then overcome segregation...and continue to overcome racism.........They are now viewed by most as equals who can accomplish anything a white person can.



White people have ditched the accent and the powdered wigs....expanded their views....been very productive in the advancement of technology........but compared to where blacks have come from...white people should have learned how to turn water into wine or something.


...and on this same note....big props to the asians. I would never have my Treo 650 if it weren't for them :thumbsup :winkwink: :winkwink: :winkwink:

No, i'm white and i live about 45 miles north of you on I-5 :thumbsup ....ya know, where the white people in washington live who have money :winkwink:

Jk jk jk jk....the state of washington would be nothing without the "eroma of tacomoa" :winkwink:

This is true, in the U.S.A. there are more whites living below the poverty line than blacks.

So why is poverty is cited as a reason for disproportionate black crime statistics?

That about sums it up.

:Oh crap

I think tere is more black crime for 2 reasons:

1) They're angry/frusterated...and they should be. But they should take out their frusterations in other ways....

2) Racist cops ....You can say all you want about black people being drug dealers....

The truth of it is...If you want crack....sure, you more often will get it from a black person. But if you want meth, ecstacy, weed, pharmacuticals....I'm sorry, but you're getting that from a white person more times than a white person

This is today... I'm talking about years ago when nordic people had to think of ways to stay alive in cold weather.

About the advance of african americans, you're absolutely right. Like I said, there are no "superior" or "inferior" races, I only suggested an explanation to the bad condition of African countries today.

White people today aren't hard workers because their ancestors from thousands of years ago worked hard. I dont care where you lived....you worked your ass off to survive nomatter where you lived.


I think we should just break this down into what matters...If all technology was taken away and we were all dropped in a desert and left to survive who would die first. WHITE PEOPLE....this coming from a white person.....

Racism is ignorance
 

poor people are more violent, less educated, have more children.
blacks are poor because of the social injustice. blacks come from poor families (in avg. of course), blacks get the lousy education, blacks dont have motivartion for studying cause the whites come with better knowledge from home so the black man is pushed down (amen).
and we still didnt discuss direct racism like what i read so far.
all man are equal. it's just the terms of living who make them what they are. ask yourself how they live, how's it's different before you conclude racist conclusions.
povetry=violence, no education
black people are poor so they are more violent in avg.
help them live better, get affirmative action and there will be no color to poverty.

and i'm a jew.

South Africa

Ukraine - GDP $4,870 per capita
South Africa - GDP $10,070 per capita

how does THAT ^^^^ make you feel?

This DOES bring up a good ponit. There are a lot of piece of shit african countries...but there is an equal amount of eastern europeans shit holes.

Link or STFU.

Ignorant whiteys, you are the reason for the eminent colapse of America

More violence.
You just proved my point, ape: Negroes came from PRIMATES.

Caucasians came from WHALES.

Notice how one group likes to swim and the other is deathly afraid of water? Ever see an ape to the beach? How many whales do you see in the jungle?

The problem is that the politically correct crowd gets in the way of the facts.

Why is South Africa such a shithole ? Because of white racism ofcourse.

90% black but its the white holding them back. Kinda like the 12 million jews holding back the 1 billion muslims.

I'll be back in a while to conclude this arguement. I'm due at the vet for a check up on my fin and my blow hole

Come the revolution we will bathe in your blood, whitey.
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Bullshit statistics and you know it.
Come here and see how average people live and then compare it to average people Africa.

Representative for American white people:

http://www.radgeek.com/gt/images/bush-dumb.jpg

Representative for American black people:

http://www.dallasnews.com/img/photo/07-04/Barack.jpg



I'd go with the latter :2 cents:

Fact: Most black people in america are descendants of slaves.

DarkJedi, if I took all your wordly possessions, all your culture and identity, stripped it from you and threw you in the middle of a new world, with new language and lifestyle.. and ZERO respect from anyone... i'd love to see how fast you adapt.

Blacks in America have only been getting a "fair" (I use this term very loosely) shake in education for about... 50 years. Today, you can still go to inner city schools and see old textbooks, horrible learning environments and underqualified teachers. I won't even go into the discrimination by colleges.

So, the advancements of blacks in america by its very nature would have to be slow.

You can't ask a slave race to break their backs to help build america to what it is today so you can even make that kind of post,... then ... 150 years later get mad at them because "they aint shit". How could you expect them to be? It's very hard to develop wealth and success when your grandfather or grandmother pass on to you after they die, absolutely nothing. When you have no credit, no credentials, no collateral, ... even pure education is sometimes not enough in this world you need money, or people who'd be willing to give you money.

----- On Africa

AlexG's post about the lack of need for innovation to survive is a pretty common theory in my view and I do think it's poignant. BUT, I'd like to point out these few things.

So many African nations have been invaded by other countries outside of Africa that, well it'd be really tough to advance technologically and socially through tough oppression.

Africans aren't the main beneficiairies of their own natural resources, therefore never generate huge amounts of wealth which in turn could be used to advance society.

Sure, there are diseases in Africa and they can't contain them, however diseases have been common throughout the history of mankind - would it be fair to say white people were inferior people because the bubonic plague wiped out a ton of people in europe?



At the heart of the matter there is no such thing as inferior races. We're all humans, there are smart africans and dumb whites, there are smart whites and dumb asians. If you can accept what role enviroment plays on people then you can accept that fact that its tough to get out the ghetto, maybe you can develop some respect for the people who have to live there and be very happy that you don't have to struggle.

The Ukraine is weak....I could take a shit and mold it into a statue of martin luther king and it would be worth more than that entire shit hole of a country.

Amen! You have found the words that i was struggling to find :thumbsup

sounds like you're talking about HOTEL RWANDA... :winkwink:

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