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uno

That poor Condi Rice is a double 'minority'. She's so repressed. Let's not even start on poor, unfortunate Colin Powell(I know he's poor and unfortunate because of his stint in the Bush admin. I wept for him).

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I 100% AGREE

You are a product of your enviroment. But here is how it works:

Nomatter what race you are, it takes a really determined person to be successful. You don't even have to be the smartest person. But DRIVE is what does it.....

Now, for thousands of years...although differently in today's times.....there IS racism going on. As i mentioned.....This is subconcious racism. This is people being more afraid of blacks than whites. This is cops tending to arrest a black person over a white person.


Life's tough....there is no way around it. Takes determination to make something of yourself. Black people are continually knocked down by whites much more than the other way around....

I am by NO MEANS saying that it is 'OKAY' for black people to just give up because of this. But the overall tendancy of the race is to give up because of this...and if the tables were turned with blacks having all the money and whites being pushed down...the EXACT same thing would happen. It has NOTHING to do with the color of their skin

There are determined blacks that get past this. But of course there is going to naturally be less % of blacks who overcome the hardships of life to make something of themselves because due to society they have a hell of a lot more hardships to overcome. If they are determined...they will still do this.


a TON of people have dumbass parents or had bad role models at one time or another....We are in a world of communication and there are many outlets to get "the truth"......Just because you grew up in bad enviroment and look up to allen iverson doesn't mean you're going to be a gang banger.

What WILL make you gang banger is people continually telling you that that is what you will become....from BLACKS AND WHITES.......

But it all comes back to white people because the black people who got convinced to tell other black people that that is who they should be were subconciously convinced this by the white population. Its just cycle that hopefully wont be never ending



I HATE cry baby minorities....I'm not saying AT ALL that we should be giving black people or any race for that matter special breaks. I'm just trying to make the point that blacks are no different than whites and if the same situations were in place but the races were flopped the exact same thing would happen

Project-Shadow

I seriously hope that this was meant in a sarcastic manor.

AT&T did it because if they didn't they would more than likely get sued for 'putting the black man down'. Benefits are being thrown in every direction except for a white person. A friend of mine works in a police recruiting office, and said unless you're a white homosexual, with 1 leg, and 13 children, there is no way in hell you're going to get a job. Obviously he was exaggurating but it gets the point across.

That being said I have nothing against, black, white, asian, whatever, it's the retarded majority within these races that creates the general hate towards the entire race as a whole.

Being politically correct nowadays is a must, and unfortunately to adhere to certain aspects of this 'policital correctness' common sense seems to be thrown out the window.

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BlueWire

I dont think any benefits should be thrown anyone's ways. But you have to look at the bigger picture. If att felt they would be sued by black people if they didnt make this offer then its because of a black organization. And then why does that black organization feel they need to do this? Because of year of being beat up.

Yes, its dumb and retarted.....But if I were black and had been fucked with for years on end....I'd want to do a little fucking with white people of my own

alexg

My opinion:

I don't think there is a "superior" or "inferior" race. Each race has it's advantages and disadvantages. Just as a small example: The Japanese are kings when it comes to education, but the blacks laugh at them when they see their penis size...

It's a fact that African countries are behind when it comes to civilization, and there's an explanation to this (I will make is very generalized):

Since humanity began, black people enjoyed simple life in sunny areas, they didn't need to work hard, because nature has given them everything they needed. that's why they seem more spoiled and have low morals today comparing to other races.

On the other hand, Nordic people had to struggle to stay alive in the cold weather and develop creativity, and also work hard.

another example is the jewish people. why are the jewish people so successful and educated (in general)? because they always had a hard time surviving as well as getting involved in the social life among non jewish citizens. for example, in many countries there were anti semitic laws according to which jewish people weren't allowed in Universities etc'. That caused the average jew to put a lot more effort in studying then the average non-jew, because the jew had to achieve excellence in order to be accepted while for the non-jew it was enough to just be "ok".

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i did disagree with you. i said i couldnt disagree with you more

BlueWire

I'm sorry....but Black people living on the equator that still walk 5 miles to get a bucket of water work a hell of a lot harder than your fat ass walking down to mcdonald's for a burger and a coke.

jk...well, about you being a fat ass...i cant speak about that



But if you look at where black people were at the begining of the united states ...and where they are now....my personal opinion is that they have advanced a hell of a lot more than white people.


White people came from english speaking, with formal education (in the way that we think of education).....

...They have overcome slavery.....then overcome segregation...and continue to overcome racism.........They are now viewed by most as equals who can accomplish anything a white person can.



White people have ditched the accent and the powdered wigs....expanded their views....been very productive in the advancement of technology........but compared to where blacks have come from...white people should have learned how to turn water into wine or something.


...and on this same note....big props to the asians. I would never have my Treo 650 if it weren't for them

BlueWire

No, i'm white and i live about 45 miles north of you on I-5 ....ya know, where the white people in washington live who have money

Jk jk jk jk....the state of washington would be nothing without the "eroma of tacomoa"

escorpio

This is true, in the U.S.A. there are more whites living below the poverty line than blacks.

So why is poverty is cited as a reason for disproportionate black crime statistics?

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BlueWire

I think tere is more black crime for 2 reasons:

1) They're angry/frusterated...and they should be. But they should take out their frusterations in other ways....

2) Racist cops ....You can say all you want about black people being drug dealers....

The truth of it is...If you want crack....sure, you more often will get it from a black person. But if you want meth, ecstacy, weed, pharmacuticals....I'm sorry, but you're getting that from a white person more times than a white person

alexg

This is today... I'm talking about years ago when nordic people had to think of ways to stay alive in cold weather.

About the advance of african americans, you're absolutely right. Like I said, there are no "superior" or "inferior" races, I only suggested an explanation to the bad condition of African countries today.

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BlueWire

White people today aren't hard workers because their ancestors from thousands of years ago worked hard. I dont care where you lived....you worked your ass off to survive nomatter where you lived.


I think we should just break this down into what matters...If all technology was taken away and we were all dropped in a desert and left to survive who would die first. WHITE PEOPLE....this coming from a white person.....

VincentVega

poor people are more violent, less educated, have more children.
blacks are poor because of the social injustice. blacks come from poor families (in avg. of course), blacks get the lousy education, blacks dont have motivartion for studying cause the whites come with better knowledge from home so the black man is pushed down (amen).
and we still didnt discuss direct racism like what i read so far.
all man are equal. it's just the terms of living who make them what they are. ask yourself how they live, how's it's different before you conclude racist conclusions.
povetry=violence, no education
black people are poor so they are more violent in avg.
help them live better, get affirmative action and there will be no color to poverty.

and i'm a jew.

Antonio

South Africa

Ukraine - GDP $4,870 per capita
South Africa - GDP $10,070 per capita

how does THAT ^^^^ make you feel?

BlueWire

This DOES bring up a good ponit. There are a lot of piece of shit african countries...but there is an equal amount of eastern europeans shit holes.

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DarkJedi

More violence.
You just proved my point, ape: Negroes came from PRIMATES.

Caucasians came from WHALES.

Notice how one group likes to swim and the other is deathly afraid of water? Ever see an ape to the beach? How many whales do you see in the jungle?

The problem is that the politically correct crowd gets in the way of the facts.

DarkJedi

Why is South Africa such a shithole ? Because of white racism ofcourse.

90% black but its the white holding them back. Kinda like the 12 million jews holding back the 1 billion muslims.

BlueWire

I'll be back in a while to conclude this arguement. I'm due at the vet for a check up on my fin and my blow hole

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DarkJedi

Bullshit statistics and you know it.
Come here and see how average people live and then compare it to average people Africa.

BlueWire

Representative for American white people:



Representative for American black people:





I'd go with the latter

Arousal Design

Fact: Most black people in america are descendants of slaves.

DarkJedi, if I took all your wordly possessions, all your culture and identity, stripped it from you and threw you in the middle of a new world, with new language and lifestyle.. and ZERO respect from anyone... i'd love to see how fast you adapt.

Blacks in America have only been getting a "fair" (I use this term very loosely) shake in education for about... 50 years. Today, you can still go to inner city schools and see old textbooks, horrible learning environments and underqualified teachers. I won't even go into the discrimination by colleges.

So, the advancements of blacks in america by its very nature would have to be slow.

You can't ask a slave race to break their backs to help build america to what it is today so you can even make that kind of post,... then ... 150 years later get mad at them because "they aint shit". How could you expect them to be? It's very hard to develop wealth and success when your grandfather or grandmother pass on to you after they die, absolutely nothing. When you have no credit, no credentials, no collateral, ... even pure education is sometimes not enough in this world you need money, or people who'd be willing to give you money.

----- On Africa

AlexG's post about the lack of need for innovation to survive is a pretty common theory in my view and I do think it's poignant. BUT, I'd like to point out these few things.

So many African nations have been invaded by other countries outside of Africa that, well it'd be really tough to advance technologically and socially through tough oppression.

Africans aren't the main beneficiairies of their own natural resources, therefore never generate huge amounts of wealth which in turn could be used to advance society.

Sure, there are diseases in Africa and they can't contain them, however diseases have been common throughout the history of mankind - would it be fair to say white people were inferior people because the bubonic plague wiped out a ton of people in europe?



At the heart of the matter there is no such thing as inferior races. We're all humans, there are smart africans and dumb whites, there are smart whites and dumb asians. If you can accept what role enviroment plays on people then you can accept that fact that its tough to get out the ghetto, maybe you can develop some respect for the people who have to live there and be very happy that you don't have to struggle.

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BlueWire

The Ukraine is weak....I could take a shit and mold it into a statue of martin luther king and it would be worth more than that entire shit hole of a country.

BlueWire

Amen! You have found the words that i was struggling to find

flirty

sounds like you're talking about HOTEL RWANDA...

alexg

How average people in Ukraine live is NOTHING to be proud of.

and I was born there.

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DarkJedi

Ukraine was a country with Nuclear Weapons a few years ago (untill they willingly gave it up).

Do you have any idea how many countries out there have Nuclear weapons ? (hint: not many).


P.S.

http://www.scandinavica.com/culture/...y/UNreport.htm



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Antonio

Of course I do, but you said to name one country that is run by blacks and is not a shithole, South Africa has been run by blacks for the past 10 years and the economy is doing REALLY well.

I'm Bulgarian, I was born and grew up there, even now when Eastern Europe is fucked up people are still living much better quality lives, their life expectancy is higher, they're much better educated than the 'average' African...

But to answer your question, NO I don't think that the balcks are inferior, do you seriously think that if you take a two months old black baby boy and raise him in your family, and teach him the same values, give him good education etc, do you seriously think that he'll perform worse than his white counterparts just because of his skin color (all thing being equal of course)?

BlueWire

Do they have nukes now? No. Why? Because the other countries couldnt stand to have such a worthless country with nothing to lose having them.


There are plenty of smart people from Ukraine...but do you see any of them living there?

DarkJedi

Negroes have been in charge of most of Africa for thousands of years.


Colonization of America went thru okay.


They have had MORE than enough time to show you can run Africa.
All they have shown is that they are leaders in civil war, corruption, starvation and AIDS.

Black Americans should get down on their knees every day and thank the other africans, arabs and europeans who sold their ancestors into slavery.
America = freedoms, opportunity for wealth, access to best healthcare in world, rule of law.
Africa = disease, dictatorship, genocide, casual death, poverty.

latinasojourn

well, this poster has the gist of it.

the truth is the human species has walked upright on earth for not thousands of years, but millions of years.

if you look at the earth there are certain places where people can survive without much effort (the equatorial band and a certain defined area both north and south of this equatorial band).

this means that where it is warm all year long people don't need to be so industrious to survive.

in what is now germany, in the wintertime if you don't get out of bed in the morning and make something happen you will freeze to death. they make the mercedes benz.

in the philippines you can sleep all day under a banana tree in a loin cloth and when you get hungry you can crawl up a tree and get mango, or banana, or coconut. they make an "industry" out of basket weaving.

big difference between a mercedes and a woven basket.

"blacks" all over the world don't manufacture much of anything, this is partly because they evolved in areas that were not only warm all year, but lacked natural resources for food production.

so you must factor in a genetic component which not only lacks industry, but also lacks fundamental nutrition---this may partly explain why native peoples in equatorial desert areas ("arabic") are mainly fuckups. you don't get essential vitamins if you just chase sheep all day and don't get fresh fruits and vegetables.

so you will see more prosperity in certain parts of the world due mostly to an area's natural resources (food availability) and climate (warmth).

no areas near the equator have indigenous people who are industrious, they are mostly passive people, who are content because they don't have to do much to survive.

and in virtually all areas of the world where it is cold much of the year you will find hard-working industrious people.

blacks are "black" because they evolved from areas which have lots of sunshine most of the year.

that the basics. that isn't a racist idea, it's just a fact, and the first poster in this thread has things pretty well correct.

modern society will slowly dillute the racial heterogenity of mankind---and in a couple thousand years society will be mostly homogenized so this discussion will be moot.

it's not necessary to comment on the obvious. everything has a logical reason.

JD

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eamedia

i totally agree.... sad but true...

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Bullshit. It is still fucked beyond belief.

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chadglni

You are wrong. It's not your fault you are wrong really you just never learned a damn thing. You have NO CLUE what really goes on. Pretty much everyone lets black people have lower scores but still get the job. Police, Fire Dept, city jobs, etc. etc. etc. AT&T did shit to make themselves look good, they did it because of the LAW.

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Alex

Banks give out loan based on credit history. If you didn't get a loan it is not due to the color of your skin.

Employers hire based on quality of worker. If you don't get hired it is not due to the color of your skin, but maybe because you don't have a college degree or managed to hold a job for more than a week.

Colleges have standards on which they admit on, RACE isn't on.

They don't factor in your G.P.A, SAT scores, and color of skin to see how qualified of a student you are.

But now, because of the "unfair" treatment of black people and other minorities, and i use the word minority loosely because being white is becoming the minority.

The new way of thinking allows a black kid to go to college with his 3.0 because he came from a bad background, but the white kid with the 4.0 gets turned down.


That my friend is racism, and that is what most of you support.

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BlueWire

it was a sarcastic comment....read between lines

angel_x3ws

that is not sooo true...and what is wrong with basket weaving as an industry..at least we make a decent living...we need not hurt,rob, or fuck up other people for us to be able to survive...

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Alex

You obviously have no interest in the well-being of your health/life.

If you walk down a street and there is a group of gang bangers in front of you, do you walk right through them, thinking, "It's best not to judge people, for all i know they might be discussing schoolwork" or do you walk around thinking, "Better be safe than sorry".

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BlueWire

Okay, i'm clocking out. This is my day off so i'm going to spend it somewhere else besides with you fine people


Have a good one everybody

alexg

a small minority lives great in Ukraine. DarkJedi probably belongs to this minority.

too bad 95% of the people there eat shit their whole life...

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Of course they do, if someone doesn't hire them, they sit on welfare and collect our taxes any ways. Might as well give them a job doing something even if they aren't too qualified for it.

And here you were bitching that white people don't give black people chances. You my friend are the biggest racist and hypocrite on this board.

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DarkJedi

Wrong.

When was the last time you were here ?

JD

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