2257 and Canadian TGPs - GoFuckYourself.com

freddy4 · 06-16-2005, 08:28 PM

Hi,

I red some articles about 2257 US law and its new regulation that will be effective on june 23. Looks like US Gorvernment don't like TGP webmaters a lot

. I know there's some TGP gurus around here, so maybe you can help me advance my research. I'm a canadian who lives in canada. How do this regulation affets me as a TGP owner. I see that many US sponsors take mesures right now : changing their banners, droping their free content and adapting their hosting galleries. But do canadian sponsors still have the right to sell membership in the US and promote it the canadian way? Anyways, I just try to get knowledge about this issue. I think maybe it can bring some legal opportunities for canadian webmasters.

kaori · 06-16-2005, 08:31 PM

Heh, do a search.. it's been covered so many times

Long story short,
IF your content provider allows it, and you're a canadian citizen, hosted in Canada, then you don't really have to worry about 2257 at all..
But some sponsors ARE revoking content.. (EG: Lightspeed)..
In those cases, you have to take your non-compliant lightspeed galleries down, but ONLY because lightspeed wants you to...
otherwise, don't worry!

(unless you use US hosting

)

Ecksent · 06-16-2005, 08:37 PM

God damn it! I have been sitting here looking for the answer to this question for like an hour. LOL This garbage is making my head hurt. SO, just to make certain. As a Canadian, living in Canada, using non-US hosting, 2257 is nothing unless the affilate program (ie Lightspeed) demands you comply. Right?

wallst · 06-16-2005, 08:40 PM

canaduh? WTF do you care? you guys could fuck donkeys and get away with it.

Ecksent · 06-16-2005, 08:42 PM

Don't hate the playa man.....hate the game.

Boss Traffic Jim · 06-16-2005, 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kaori

Heh, do a search.. it's been covered so many times

Long story short,
IF your content provider allows it, and you're a canadian citizen, hosted in Canada, then you don't really have to worry about 2257 at all..
But some sponsors ARE revoking content.. (EG: Lightspeed)..
In those cases, you have to take your non-compliant lightspeed galleries down, but ONLY because lightspeed wants you to...
otherwise, don't worry!

(unless you use US hosting

)

You should get your facts straight. It does not matter where you are hosted, (registered isp'd are excempt) it matters where you run your biz, and who you do biz with and a few other things, but NOT where your servers are located.

BrainCash JF · 06-17-2005, 07:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Afrin

You should get your facts straight. It does not matter where you are hosted, (registered isp'd are excempt) it matters where you run your biz, and who you do biz with and a few other things, but NOT where your servers are located.

I agree

if you deal with US , here's the questions to ask ...Do I deal with US ?

from the law text :

' The rule is no different from other forms of labeling requirements
imposed on foreign producers of, e.g., alcohol, tobacco, or food items
that are imported into the United States. In order to sell in the U.S.
market, foreign producers must comply with U.S. laws. '

do you have US surfers ? if not I guess you don't have to deal with the regulation...

rockbear · 06-17-2005, 07:33 AM

Just use text link on your sites Problem solved.

Or buy content and add it on your site. Problem solved.

Decadawn · 06-17-2005, 07:44 AM

JF & Braincash rules!

;)

LC

Ace_luffy · 06-17-2005, 07:50 AM

hmmmm it seems only US webmaster / material provider will be more affected...

BrainCash JF · 06-17-2005, 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Decadawn

JF & Braincash rules!

;)

LC

nice sig

thanks buddy

freddy4 · 06-17-2005, 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrainCash JF

I agree

if you deal with US , here's the questions to ask ...Do I deal with US ?

from the law text :

' The rule is no different from other forms of labeling requirements
imposed on foreign producers of, e.g., alcohol, tobacco, or food items
that are imported into the United States. In order to sell in the U.S.
market, foreign producers must comply with U.S. laws. '

do you have US surfers ? if not I guess you don't have to deal with the regulation...

Thanks yall for the anwsers. I know that the location of the servers is not important. What matters is the physical location of the business owners. But the customer issue seems to be more complicated. As a TGP owner I don't have any customer, I'm just an information provider, right? As a canadian I don't have to keep a record of the models if they don't look like little girls. So if my sponsors let me use their hardcore banners, free contents and thumbnails; I shouldn't have any problem, even if all my surfers are from USA, right? Seems a little too easy, I guess US governement is smarter than that. Do I miss a point?

Paul Waters · 06-17-2005, 03:31 PM

You have no problem with US surfers.

It is like American tourists visiting Toronto and doing some business. Canadian laws apply, and if there are any US legal implications, they apply only to the American.

BigRod · 06-17-2005, 04:03 PM

If your a canadian webmaster your only restrictions are those set forward by your sponsor.

<-------- Start shameless plug

If you want a program that is completely 2257 compliant join the Extreme Absinthe program and get paid $20 everytime someone buys a $40 bottle of Czech Absinthe!!!

<-------- End shameless plug

directfiesta · 06-17-2005, 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Afrin

You should get your facts straight. It does not matter where you are hosted, (registered isp'd are excempt) it matters where you run your biz, and who you do biz with and a few other things, but NOT where your servers are located.

He is Canadian, lives in Canada... so hosting location is the last important piece...

Hosted OUT of USA and he is fine. He just has to conform to the directives of the programs owners.

06-16-2005, 08:28 PM	#1
freddy4 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 10	2257 and Canadian TGPs Hi, I red some articles about 2257 US law and its new regulation that will be effective on june 23. Looks like US Gorvernment don't like TGP webmaters a lot . I know there's some TGP gurus around here, so maybe you can help me advance my research. I'm a canadian who lives in canada. How do this regulation affets me as a TGP owner. I see that many US sponsors take mesures right now : changing their banners, droping their free content and adapting their hosting galleries. But do canadian sponsors still have the right to sell membership in the US and promote it the canadian way? Anyways, I just try to get knowledge about this issue. I think maybe it can bring some legal opportunities for canadian webmasters.

06-16-2005, 08:37 PM	#3
Ecksent Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Near Vancouver Posts: 1,415	God damn it! I have been sitting here looking for the answer to this question for like an hour. LOL This garbage is making my head hurt. SO, just to make certain. As a Canadian, living in Canada, using non-US hosting, 2257 is nothing unless the affilate program (ie Lightspeed) demands you comply. Right? __________________ Anyone wanna sig spot.......cheap????

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06-16-2005, 08:31 PM	#2
kaori Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Montreal Posts: 1,569	Heh, do a search.. it's been covered so many times Long story short, IF your content provider allows it, and you're a canadian citizen, hosted in Canada, then you don't really have to worry about 2257 at all.. But some sponsors ARE revoking content.. (EG: Lightspeed).. In those cases, you have to take your non-compliant lightspeed galleries down, but ONLY because lightspeed wants you to... otherwise, don't worry! (unless you use US hosting )

06-17-2005, 07:33 AM	#8
rockbear Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 806	Just use text link on your sites Problem solved. Or buy content and add it on your site. Problem solved.

06-17-2005, 07:44 AM	#9
Decadawn Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Montreal Posts: 1,286	JF & Braincash rules! ;) LC

06-17-2005, 03:31 PM	#13
Paul Waters Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Toronto, Ontario Posts: 4,402	You have no problem with US surfers. It is like American tourists visiting Toronto and doing some business. Canadian laws apply, and if there are any US legal implications, they apply only to the American. __________________ Paul

06-17-2005, 04:03 PM	#14
BigRod Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 3,685	If your a canadian webmaster your only restrictions are those set forward by your sponsor. <-------- Start shameless plug If you want a program that is completely 2257 compliant join the Extreme Absinthe program and get paid $20 everytime someone buys a $40 bottle of Czech Absinthe!!! <-------- End shameless plug __________________ Rod Macdonald Mainstream Ad Agency Owner ICQ: 607306