Jokerempire just threatened me and Lensman LOL BTW he is a thief. icq convo inside.

[Joesho]

JOKER (3:25 PM) : Hey, if you need money so badly, you can collect from adult.com for me. - I'll give you their debt of $587.50 as a present if you want ;-) If you need the background info, let me know.

JOKER (3:29 PM) : You gonna be in Miami btw. ? If you'll be there, hit me up and ask me for a drink :-)

Joesho (4:05 PM) : haah yeah I am gonna be in Miami

Joesho (4:05 PM) : Look man, you know you owe us the money, why no just pay it and start over, why do you want to let it stay bad?

Joesho (4:06 PM) : you know I really thought highly opf you man, and have still a great way to sell traffic and make tons of Money. but our chances at doing business, or being friends was killed by you.

Joesho (4:06 PM) : I understand if things were not going good for you at the time, but you should just have ben honest with me, and I could have worked something out.

Joesho (4:07 PM) : Now unless you pay us the money you owe us, I will have no choice but to think what I have had to think for the last year, and that was that you set us up to rip us off. I hope that was not the case but unless you pay what you owe. then how can we think anything else.

Joesho (4:09 PM) : You pay us the money, and I will state to everyone that you did the right thing, plus we have paysites out now that could use foriegn traffic, and I would still like to be a friend with you, and do business with you, so I hope you make the RIGHT decision.

JOKER (4:22 PM) : Seriously, the publicity stunt you've pulled off back then was all but not appreciated by me. Many things stated back then have flat out been lies and you know that. And, if you believe it or not, I have never seen the money I tried to wire to my account from paypal shortly before you made the chargeback. Usual procedure would have been get the money to my account, then wire it to the network I used to work with at that time, when they confirm pa

JOKER (4:25 PM) : That money is written off anyway, if you get it from them - fine it's yours. If you get them to send it to me, fine it's yours as well.

JOKER (4:28 PM) : About further business... I dunno yet, we can talk in Miami about that, however I'm not quite happy with your mentality to jump the gun too early, to be honest. I do have my own network now and do lots of biz, if you have good sites that fit in, we can talk and see where we get.

Joesho (12:41 PM) : well know this then, I will never stop hounding you until you pay us the money you owe us. I will tell everybody I know what a thief you are, and I will be on all boards with it too, I will also when I see you in florida be sure to let anyone know you are around then the story also. it could be much easier if you just paid what you owe. but it is up to you, I dont care I will never let it rest until you pay us .

JOKER (12:47 PM) : Uhm, guess you missed the part where I offered you $587.50 then... well, your call. So I take your connection to adult.com Joe is even worse than mine, too bad.

Joesho (12:48 PM) : haha not my popsition to collect your debts, why would I jepordize my good relationship with Joe for you??? do you really think I am that stupid? pay what you owe, or we can battle as much as you want.

JOKER (12:51 PM) : Oh, and the story already is a year old, no-one cared yet, no-one will that I do biz with. So I'm not really worried about you going around telling people stories they have no interest in. Not too bad about the collecting part, I'll have my guy with me in Florida that handles our debts and watches after me. See you there.

Joesho (12:51 PM) : good i look forward to it .

JOKER (12:52 PM) : I gave you a good chance to get "your money" and a little plus, you denied... oh well.

Joesho (12:53 PM) : fuck you you thieving fuck. pay what you owe . you are nothing more than a thief . I will NEVER let this debt rest, you can be assured of that.

JOKER (12:54 PM) : If you have such a "good relationship" with Joe I'm sure you know about his business principles, at least everybody that ever worked very close with him does, so I take you know and do business with a known thief, how sweet.

JOKER (12:55 PM) : Oh and another reminder... in case you forgot... namecalling and such leads to exactly zero with me :-) Thanx

Joesho (12:55 PM) : what the fuck does Joe have to do with what you owe us?
I do not work for adult.com and never have i dont give a fuck what your relationship with him is, I WANT MY FUCKING MONEY YOU OWE ME!

Joesho (12:56 PM) : so you call lensman a thief, cause you wont pay a bill you owe, that has nothing to do with him ? what the fuck is your logic there ?

Joesho (12:58 PM) : the only thief involved in this conversation is you. PAY WHAT YOU OWE.

JOKER (12:58 PM) : Easy, you say you have a good relationship to Joe, so your money is just one Phonecall away from you. It can't get more easy for you. Got my Logic? I want the debt with Joe - Lensman cleared, you want your money.

JOKER (1:00 PM) : You can even keep the extra 87.50 for your phonecall or however you contact him. Do you want the money, or not.

JOKER (1:01 PM) : If not, I'll let my guy collect from him the in-the-face way in Florida and hand you your 500 without extra. Deal?

Joesho (1:01 PM) : why and how does Joe even enter our conversation? YOU OWE ME money , Lensman has nothing to do with my company, nor do I have anything to do with his company, so what the fuck do yo keep offering me something from him? it has no bearing on any deal you fucked me on. what the fuck does my knowing Lensman have anything to do with you stealing money from me? are you on crack?

JOKER (1:02 PM) : No, are you? Or do I write chinese?

Joesho (1:03 PM) : hahaah so now you threaten Lensman too ? LOL LOL you are a fucking idiot, I hope you do actually try to have " some guy " confront me LOL that will be the second worst mistake you have made STEALING FROM ME WAS THE FIRST

JOKER (1:03 PM) : Joe, are you high again, or do you have a reading - understanding problem?

Joesho (1:03 PM) : I look forward to seeing you in person, and like I said I will definatly remind all the people I see around you what a scam and a fucking thief you are. are you still downloading toolbars on to the people you sell traffic to as well?

JOKER (1:04 PM) : Please contact me again when you're sober man.

Joesho (1:04 PM) : explain it to me then LOL what are you saying ? speak english

JOKER (1:05 PM) : Read the history when you sobered up. Take care until then. Talking business drunk or on drugs is a bad habit. You can't be sober, cause otherwise you'd understand.

Joesho (1:06 PM) : you are a fool, and I am completely sober. PAY ME THE MONEY YOU OWE.

JOKER (1:08 PM) : If you are sober, then read this part again, and stop making shit and hearsay up, otherwise this conversation has an end right here and I will not give shit about another approach. Now read this again:

[21:58] JOKER: Easy, you say you have a good relationship to Joe, so your money is just one Phonecall away from you. It can't get more easy for you. Got my Logic? I want the debt with Joe - Lensman cleared, you want your money.

[22:00] JOKER: You can even keep the extra 87.50 for your phonecall or however you contact him. Do you want the money, or not.

[22:01] JOKER: If not, I'll let my guy collect from him the in-the-face way in Florida and hand you your 500 without extra. Deal?

JOKER (1:09 PM) : [22:01] JOKER: If not, I'll let my guy collect from him the in-the-face way in Florida and hand you your 500 without extra. Deal?

[22:01] JOKER: If not, I'll let my guy collect from him the in-the-face way in Florida and hand you your 500 without extra. Deal?

[22:01] JOKER: If not, I'll let my guy collect from him the in-the-face way in Florida and hand you your 500 without extra. Deal?

JOKER (1:11 PM) : So, do you want to get 587.50 from Joe, or do you want me / my guy collect from him in Florida and hand you the money cash there? Just answer this question, cant make it more easy.

Joesho (1:11 PM) : so you still have not explained what Lensman has to do with anything here? I will go slow for you cause I know you are not mentally stable.

1.) you stole money from us and owe us 500.00 bucks.

2.) Lensman has no involment in this whatsoever so whty keep bringing his name into it over some deal you say you had with him, it has nothing to do with what you me.

3.) I do not now, or never have worked for adult.com or joe why is my collecting a debt you owe me something I need to contact him for?

Joesho (1:12 PM) : REAL SIMPLE YOU PAY US WHAT YOU OWE. I dont give a fuck about any deal between you and Lensman that is between the two of you, not me .

Joesho (1:12 PM) : bank wire us the 500.00 bucks you owe us, and you do whatever you fel you need to do to collect anything you feel is owed to you by someone else. what is so hard to understand about that ?

JOKER (1:16 PM) : Come back when you have not such an attitude. Bye... Geez, and you call me mentally unstable - lol - if you want 500 cash in Florida and stop talking out of your ass until then, we have a deal, otherwise try to confront me in Florida with that attitude and you'll see whats coming to you. No threat at all, just a fact. I'm out. See you in Florida.

[XAKEP]

[Manowar]

Cliff notes plz dude

[polish_aristocrat]

i wonder how many people will read your post and how many will just reply "see sig"

[XAKEP]

[Platinumpimp]

Fucking keyboard hero.

I hope you get what you are owed dude.

[Stephen]

I hate to get involved with dramas I know nothing about, but this log shows that Joesho is a class act, with a lot of patience.

Good luck collecting, bro

[Theo]

what was the deal? The icq log doesnt make much sense

[Digipimp]

in other news, you're boring me

[kernelpanic]

sig spot

[JOKER]

Looks like you denied my offer.

I offered you $500 cash in Florida to make you get off my dick, read the convo.

You = 0wn3d yourself.

Oh and to make it complete:

[22:29] JOKER: Good that you posted the convo, ot will show your true colors. Thanx.
[22:30] 174842541: PAY THE MONEY YOU OWE BITCH
[22:31] JOKER: lol, run to GFY and see if it pays you. Looks like thats all you're good at. Crying in public, instead of taking care of your business. Class act.
[22:32] 174842541: we will see, you are the thief not me, taking care of business would be for you to pay the fucking money you owe.
[22:32] JOKER: I offered you a $500 in cash deal in Florida, you denied it with your crap, so here it goes :-) Guess we quit now.
[22:32] JOKER: Thanx.
[22:33] JOKER: Hope your yadda yadda and GFY image was worth the $500 for you.
[22:34] 174842541: you were never gonna pay anyway you fucking thief. we will see each other in person. bring your friend, in fact bring two
[22:36] JOKER: Too bad you'll never find out. You just denied a $500 cash deal, so you dont want any money, we are done. Otherwise you just had to shut up and wait, but the drama king you are, of course you can't do that. You just 0wn3d yourself. Congrats LOL
[22:37] 174842541: fuck you I will get my money one way oe another you fucking thief!

[jacked]

thats one long fucking convo anyone got any popcorn

[FilthyRob]

drammammamammama

[brand0n]

if you owe him, pay him.

[JD]

Originally Posted by Manowar

Cliff notes plz dude

i agree

[Kevsh]

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz, sorry, it is just me or does drama get tiring real quick?
F-this, F-that, F-you .... yawn.

[Alky]

Originally Posted by JOKEREMPIRE

Looks like you denied my offer.

Joesho isnt a collection agency

[NTSS]

Yawn.....

[StuartD]

Originally Posted by Alky

Joesho isnt a collection agency

That's obvious. Any collection agency I ever dealt with never swore at me and told me to bring a friend or two so we can meet in person.

Kinda makes the whole thing look bad for both parties

[Anthony]

Notes on not to do business with.

Joker empire.

[~Ray]

cliffnotes = never do business with Jokerempire

~Ray

[Joesho]

Originally Posted by NichePay - StuartD

That's obvious. Any collection agency I ever dealt with never swore at me and told me to bring a friend or two so we can meet in person.

Kinda makes the whole thing look bad for both parties

read the thread Stuart, LOL he threatened me dumb ass, I just told him to bring his friends LOL

[JOKER]

Originally Posted by Joesho

read the thread Stuart, LOL he threatened me dumb ass, I just told him to bring his friends LOL

Exactly... read JOE, where did I threaten anybody?

Man, you're either high, drunk or you simply cannot read / understand basic english.

Pathetic man...

[Joesho]

Originally Posted by JOKEREMPIRE

Exactly... read JOE, where did I threaten anybody?

Man, you're either high, drunk or you simply cannot read / understand basic english.

Pathetic man...

pay me the money you stole

[NickPapageorgio]

lol...so it's your responsibility to collect money that he owes you from Lensman JoesHo? Wow...if only all my business dealings went so smoothly. I like the "bring two" line...lmao...that is a classic!! Why not just pay the man JOKER? It would be over and done with and you two could go your seperate ways...just a thought.

[Va2k]

this is sad sad sad

TOM

[inabon]

You Mother Fucker Pay Up Damn It You Owe Us Money!!!!!!!!

[JOKER]

Originally Posted by Joesho

pay me the money you stole

You denied $500 CASH handed to you in Florida, remember?

[StuartD]

Originally Posted by Joesho

read the thread Stuart, LOL he threatened me dumb ass, I just told him to bring his friends LOL

No, I know... just best to avoid that whole situation when possible.

One thing's for sure though, Joker's looking like the Joker through all of this. Using his reasoning, I should be able to pay off my student loan with Subway stamps cause hey... they owe me a free sub and that has monetary value... hell, they can even keep the tomatos!

[mindoza]

Hmmm...Ok any company who has an open invoice with XOD due July 1st please contact me now so I can provide you the the name and contact of the company that owes us..They will be happy to pay you!!! This is the most creative Contra I ever saw!

[Machete_]

1 - Glad to se you have come a long way since you startet out as a ass 2,5 years ago... really, im not kidding, you really have changed

2 - I LOVE the part: "I gave you a good chance to get "your money" and a little plus, you denied... oh well." I se that again and again and again in my business as well... and it cracks me up every time.


Hope you get your money buddy

[JOKER]

Originally Posted by NickPapageorgio

lol...so it's your responsibility to collect money that he owes you from Lensman JoesHo? Wow...if only all my business dealings went so smoothly. I like the "bring two" line...lmao...that is a classic!! Why not just pay the man JOKER? It would be over and done with and you two could go your seperate ways...just a thought.

It was an offer for him, as he claims to have a "good relationship" with Lensman, not more, not less.

I did offer him $500 cash in Florida in person, which he denied.

If he really wanted the money, all he had to do is wait 50 days, until we see in person, he could have $500 cash, we have a drink and call it quits.

Obviously GFY drama is more important to him, to each his own.

[Va2k]

JUST A MENTAL NOTE FOLKS, This ass clown ISNT ME...

[sonofsam]

Originally Posted by Joker

JUST A MENTAL NOTE FOLKS, This ass clown ISNT ME...

damn gfy is confusing with the nicks sometimes

[Dalai lama]

I hope you get your money Joesho

[Joesho]

Originally Posted by NichePay - StuartD

No, I know... just best to avoid that whole situation when possible.

One thing's for sure though, Joker's looking like the Joker through all of this. Using his reasoning, I should be able to pay off my student loan with Subway stamps cause hey... they owe me a free sub and that has monetary value... hell, they can even keep the tomatos!

well it is official hell has just frozen over, and I fell completely out of my chair.

you actually realize i am not the bad one here LOL ? or are you just feeling sick today?

[Machete_]

Originally Posted by JOKEREMPIRE

Exactly... read JOE, where did I threaten anybody?

Man, you're either high, drunk or you simply cannot read / understand basic english.

Pathetic man...

Just give him his money!! how hard is that to understand?

[Roald]

smart move putting Lensman in the thread title. Page views guarenteed!!!!!!!!

Hope you get the money ;))

[Joesho]

Originally Posted by JOKEREMPIRE

It was an offer for him, as he claims to have a "good relationship" with Lensman, not more, not less.

I did offer him $500 cash in Florida in person, which he denied.

If he really wanted the money, all he had to do is wait 50 days, until we see in person, he could have $500 cash, we have a drink and call it quits.

Obviously GFY drama is more important to him, to each his own.

I have a good relationship with many from here and in this industry, does that mean I should hurt my relationship based on a thief like you saying they owe you money, and trying to collect something that has nothing to do with me?

I do not want drama, I want my money, and I want people to see you for the thief and liar and conman that you are, BTW you never answered my question do you still install toolbars on people for traffic?

if you have our money why not pay me now via wire? why wait until florida? you owed me for a year now.

[JOKER]

Originally Posted by ebus_dk

Just give him his money!! how hard is that to understand?

I offered $500 in person.

He denied, what to do?

Too little, too late is a saying that fits here,

[wallst]

Originally Posted by Anthony

Notes on not to do business with.

Joker empire.

agreed and note taken. joker acts like he's gonna pay his debts in florida...whatever. thats allmost as good as saying 'the checks in the mail'.

hope you get whats coming to you thief.

[Va2k]

Originally Posted by sonofsam

damn gfy is confusing with the nicks sometimes

No shit with NichePay - StuartD saying JOKER lol at first glance when this thread was sent to me via icq I WAS LIKE WTF DID I DO!!!

TOM

[brand0n]

just wondering, what does he owe you for?

[StuartD]

Originally Posted by Joesho

well it is official hell has just frozen over, and I fell completely out of my chair.

you actually realize i am not the bad one here LOL ? or are you just feeling sick today?

Heh, I think you could get less mad... swear less and such... treat it more professionally even though he's being such a jerk wad.... but yes, definitely... you're not the bad guy in this case.

He clearly is a very bad choice of people to do business with and many people will make notes from this thread to avoid exchanging any kind of money with JokerEmpire.

[sonofsam]

Originally Posted by Joker

No shit with NichePay - StuartD saying JOKER lol at first glance when this thread was sent to me via icq I WAS LIKE WTF DID I DO!!!

TOM

yah, whatever you say theif... pay joesho man...

....lol just fuckin with ya

[JOKER]

Originally Posted by Joesho

I have a good relationship with many from here and in this industry, does that mean I should hurt my relationship based on a thief like you saying they owe you money, and trying to collect something that has nothing to do with me?

I do not want drama, I want my money, and I want people to see you for the thief and liar and conman that you are, BTW you never answered my question do you still install toolbars on people for traffic?

if you have our money why not pay me now via wire? why wait until florida? you owed me for a year now.

LOL, where did I ever install toolbars?

When you hear shit, at least make sure it has a little of truth when you talk the hearsay on to the next guy...

[StuartD]

Originally Posted by Joker

No shit with NichePay - StuartD saying JOKER lol at first glance when this thread was sent to me via icq I WAS LIKE WTF DID I DO!!!

TOM

Yeah, I know... sorry, was just trying to use the play on words thing, didn't mean to reference you

[infecto]

Interesting.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

[Joesho]

Originally Posted by brand0n

just wondering, what does he owe you for?

Traffic.

[Helix]

I bet this bad publicity is costing you more than $500.00 in the long run.
Pay the man

.