Joesho

JOKER (3:25 PM) : Hey, if you need money so badly, you can collect from adult.com for me. - I'll give you their debt of $587.50 as a present if you want ;-) If you need the background info, let me know.

JOKER (3:29 PM) : You gonna be in Miami btw. ? If you'll be there, hit me up and ask me for a drink :-)

Joesho (4:05 PM) : haah yeah I am gonna be in Miami

Joesho (4:05 PM) : Look man, you know you owe us the money, why no just pay it and start over, why do you want to let it stay bad?

Joesho (4:06 PM) : you know I really thought highly opf you man, and have still a great way to sell traffic and make tons of Money. but our chances at doing business, or being friends was killed by you.

Joesho (4:06 PM) : I understand if things were not going good for you at the time, but you should just have ben honest with me, and I could have worked something out.

Joesho (4:07 PM) : Now unless you pay us the money you owe us, I will have no choice but to think what I have had to think for the last year, and that was that you set us up to rip us off. I hope that was not the case but unless you pay what you owe. then how can we think anything else.

Joesho (4:09 PM) : You pay us the money, and I will state to everyone that you did the right thing, plus we have paysites out now that could use foriegn traffic, and I would still like to be a friend with you, and do business with you, so I hope you make the RIGHT decision.

JOKER (4:22 PM) : Seriously, the publicity stunt you've pulled off back then was all but not appreciated by me. Many things stated back then have flat out been lies and you know that. And, if you believe it or not, I have never seen the money I tried to wire to my account from paypal shortly before you made the chargeback. Usual procedure would have been get the money to my account, then wire it to the network I used to work with at that time, when they confirm pa

JOKER (4:25 PM) : That money is written off anyway, if you get it from them - fine it's yours. If you get them to send it to me, fine it's yours as well.

JOKER (4:28 PM) : About further business... I dunno yet, we can talk in Miami about that, however I'm not quite happy with your mentality to jump the gun too early, to be honest. I do have my own network now and do lots of biz, if you have good sites that fit in, we can talk and see where we get.

Joesho (12:41 PM) : well know this then, I will never stop hounding you until you pay us the money you owe us. I will tell everybody I know what a thief you are, and I will be on all boards with it too, I will also when I see you in florida be sure to let anyone know you are around then the story also. it could be much easier if you just paid what you owe. but it is up to you, I dont care I will never let it rest until you pay us .

JOKER (12:47 PM) : Uhm, guess you missed the part where I offered you $587.50 then... well, your call. So I take your connection to adult.com Joe is even worse than mine, too bad.

Joesho (12:48 PM) : haha not my popsition to collect your debts, why would I jepordize my good relationship with Joe for you??? do you really think I am that stupid? pay what you owe, or we can battle as much as you want.

JOKER (12:51 PM) : Oh, and the story already is a year old, no-one cared yet, no-one will that I do biz with. So I'm not really worried about you going around telling people stories they have no interest in. Not too bad about the collecting part, I'll have my guy with me in Florida that handles our debts and watches after me. See you there.

Joesho (12:51 PM) : good i look forward to it .

JOKER (12:52 PM) : I gave you a good chance to get "your money" and a little plus, you denied... oh well.

Joesho (12:53 PM) : fuck you you thieving fuck. pay what you owe . you are nothing more than a thief . I will NEVER let this debt rest, you can be assured of that.

JOKER (12:54 PM) : If you have such a "good relationship" with Joe I'm sure you know about his business principles, at least everybody that ever worked very close with him does, so I take you know and do business with a known thief, how sweet.

JOKER (12:55 PM) : Oh and another reminder... in case you forgot... namecalling and such leads to exactly zero with me :-) Thanx

Joesho (12:55 PM) : what the fuck does Joe have to do with what you owe us?
I do not work for adult.com and never have i dont give a fuck what your relationship with him is, I WANT MY FUCKING MONEY YOU OWE ME!

Joesho (12:56 PM) : so you call lensman a thief, cause you wont pay a bill you owe, that has nothing to do with him ? what the fuck is your logic there ?

Joesho (12:58 PM) : the only thief involved in this conversation is you. PAY WHAT YOU OWE.

JOKER (12:58 PM) : Easy, you say you have a good relationship to Joe, so your money is just one Phonecall away from you. It can't get more easy for you. Got my Logic? I want the debt with Joe - Lensman cleared, you want your money.

JOKER (1:00 PM) : You can even keep the extra 87.50 for your phonecall or however you contact him. Do you want the money, or not.

JOKER (1:01 PM) : If not, I'll let my guy collect from him the in-the-face way in Florida and hand you your 500 without extra. Deal?

Joesho (1:01 PM) : why and how does Joe even enter our conversation? YOU OWE ME money , Lensman has nothing to do with my company, nor do I have anything to do with his company, so what the fuck do yo keep offering me something from him? it has no bearing on any deal you fucked me on. what the fuck does my knowing Lensman have anything to do with you stealing money from me? are you on crack?

JOKER (1:02 PM) : No, are you? Or do I write chinese?

Joesho (1:03 PM) : hahaah so now you threaten Lensman too ? LOL LOL you are a fucking idiot, I hope you do actually try to have " some guy " confront me LOL that will be the second worst mistake you have made STEALING FROM ME WAS THE FIRST

JOKER (1:03 PM) : Joe, are you high again, or do you have a reading - understanding problem?

Joesho (1:03 PM) : I look forward to seeing you in person, and like I said I will definatly remind all the people I see around you what a scam and a fucking thief you are. are you still downloading toolbars on to the people you sell traffic to as well?

JOKER (1:04 PM) : Please contact me again when you're sober man.

Joesho (1:04 PM) : explain it to me then LOL what are you saying ? speak english

JOKER (1:05 PM) : Read the history when you sobered up. Take care until then. Talking business drunk or on drugs is a bad habit. You can't be sober, cause otherwise you'd understand.

Joesho (1:06 PM) : you are a fool, and I am completely sober. PAY ME THE MONEY YOU OWE.

JOKER (1:08 PM) : If you are sober, then read this part again, and stop making shit and hearsay up, otherwise this conversation has an end right here and I will not give shit about another approach. Now read this again:

[21:58] JOKER: Easy, you say you have a good relationship to Joe, so your money is just one Phonecall away from you. It can't get more easy for you. Got my Logic? I want the debt with Joe - Lensman cleared, you want your money.

[22:00] JOKER: You can even keep the extra 87.50 for your phonecall or however you contact him. Do you want the money, or not.

[22:01] JOKER: If not, I'll let my guy collect from him the in-the-face way in Florida and hand you your 500 without extra. Deal?

JOKER (1:09 PM) : [22:01] JOKER: If not, I'll let my guy collect from him the in-the-face way in Florida and hand you your 500 without extra. Deal?

[22:01] JOKER: If not, I'll let my guy collect from him the in-the-face way in Florida and hand you your 500 without extra. Deal?

[22:01] JOKER: If not, I'll let my guy collect from him the in-the-face way in Florida and hand you your 500 without extra. Deal?

JOKER (1:11 PM) : So, do you want to get 587.50 from Joe, or do you want me / my guy collect from him in Florida and hand you the money cash there? Just answer this question, cant make it more easy.

Joesho (1:11 PM) : so you still have not explained what Lensman has to do with anything here? I will go slow for you cause I know you are not mentally stable.

1.) you stole money from us and owe us 500.00 bucks.

2.) Lensman has no involment in this whatsoever so whty keep bringing his name into it over some deal you say you had with him, it has nothing to do with what you me.

3.) I do not now, or never have worked for adult.com or joe why is my collecting a debt you owe me something I need to contact him for?

Joesho (1:12 PM) : REAL SIMPLE YOU PAY US WHAT YOU OWE. I dont give a fuck about any deal between you and Lensman that is between the two of you, not me .

Joesho (1:12 PM) : bank wire us the 500.00 bucks you owe us, and you do whatever you fel you need to do to collect anything you feel is owed to you by someone else. what is so hard to understand about that ?

JOKER (1:16 PM) : Come back when you have not such an attitude. Bye... Geez, and you call me mentally unstable - lol - if you want 500 cash in Florida and stop talking out of your ass until then, we have a deal, otherwise try to confront me in Florida with that attitude and you'll see whats coming to you. No threat at all, just a fact. I'm out. See you in Florida.

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