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Old 06-15-2005, 02:47 AM   #1
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Former Bush adviser claims 9/11 conspiracy is true.

http://washingtontimes.com/upi-break...2755-6408r.htm

A former Bush team member during his first administration is now voicing serious doubts about the collapse of the World Trade Center on 9-11. Former chief economist for the Department of Labor during President George W. Bush's first term Morgan Reynolds comments that the official story about the collapse of the WTC is "bogus" and that it is more likely that a controlled demolition destroyed the Twin Towers and adjacent Building No. 7. Reynolds, who also served as director of the Criminal Justice Center at the National Center for Policy Analysis in Dallas and is now professor emeritus at Texas A&M University said, "If demolition destroyed three steel skyscrapers at the World Trade Center on 9/11, then the case for an 'inside job' and a government attack on America would be compelling." Reynolds commented from his Texas A&M office, "It is hard to exaggerate the importance of a scientific debate over the cause of the collapse of the twin towers and building 7. If the official wisdom on the collapses is wrong, as I believe it is, then policy based on such erroneous engineering analysis is not likely to be correct either. The government's collapse theory is highly vulnerable on its own terms. Only professional demolition appears to account for the full range of facts associated with the collapse of the three buildings."

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Two years after President George W. Bush proclaimed "mission accomplished" in Iraq, some thoughtful officers are beginning to question who the insurgents actually are. In a recent interview the head of the US 42nd Infantry Division which covers key trouble spots, including Baquba and Samarra Major General Joseph Taluto said he could understand why some ordinary Iraqis would take up arms against U.S. forces because "they're offended by our presence." Taluto added, "If a good, honest person feels having all these Humvees driving on the road, having us moving people out of the way, having us patrol the streets, having car bombs going off, you can understand how they could (want to fight us). There is a sense of a good resistance, or an accepted resistance. They say 'okay, if you shoot a coalition soldier, that's okay, it's not a bad thing but you shouldn't kill other Iraqis.'" Taluto insisted however that the other foreign forces would not be driven out of Iraq by violence, observing, "If the goal is to have the coalition leave, attacking them isn't the way," he said. "The way to make it happen is to enter the political process cooperate and the coalition will be less aggressive and less visible and eventually it'll go away." Taluto's comments are sure to raise hackles at the Pentagon, which insist that all insurgents are either Baathists or al-Qaida. Taluto observed that "99.9 per cent" of those captured fighting the U.S. were Iraqis.
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Old 06-15-2005, 04:19 AM   #2
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shut up what blatant nonsense
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Old 06-15-2005, 05:29 AM   #3
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no shit. they've been talking about controlled demolition for a long time. the third building was actually blown up with controlled explosives, the owner of that building + the world trade centers admitted it on live TV, he said the ny fire department recommended that they "pull it".
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Old 06-15-2005, 05:37 AM   #4
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the buildings were obducted by aliens in a flying saucer.
they are holding them for ransome.
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Yes, the Men in Black went in the middle of Ground Zero, and in just a few minutes had enough time to install the required explosives to take down a couple of 110 stories towers

Do you realize that it takes days to prepare demolitions like the one you see on TV?
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shut up what blatant nonsense
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the buildings were obducted by aliens in a flying saucer.
they are holding them for ransome.
thats classified information.
I told you to never talk about it in public.
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Old 06-15-2005, 05:50 AM   #9
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I used to think this stuff was nonsense too...

Then explain why Bush thinks its fine to have ABSOLUTELY NO BORDER SECURITY if we're really at war with terrorists

If he's so worried about securing America, why is he letting millions of illegals flood across the border every year? Couldn't one of them be a terrorist? Maybe?

George Bush is a fucking traitor
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Old 06-15-2005, 05:51 AM   #10
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I wonder what goes through the mind of someone defending the us/god on this incident :p
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I wonder what goes through the mind of someone defending the us/god on this incident :p
Nothing, as usual.
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A former Bush team member during his first administration is now voicing serious doubts about the collapse of the World Trade Center on 9-11. Former chief economist for the Department of Labor during President George W. Bush's first term Morgan Reynolds comments that the official story about the collapse of the WTC is "bogus" and that it is more likely that a controlled demolition destroyed the Twin Towers and adjacent Building No. 7. Reynolds, who also served as director of the Criminal Justice Center at the National Center for Policy Analysis in Dallas and is now professor emeritus at Texas A&M University said, "If demolition destroyed three steel skyscrapers at the World Trade Center on 9/11, then the case for an 'inside job' and a government attack on America would be compelling." Reynolds commented from his Texas A&M office, "It is hard to exaggerate the importance of a scientific debate over the cause of the collapse of the twin towers and building 7. If the official wisdom on the collapses is wrong, as I believe it is, then policy based on such erroneous engineering analysis is not likely to be correct either. The government's collapse theory is highly vulnerable on its own terms. Only professional demolition appears to account for the full range of facts associated with the collapse of the three buildings."
Imagine that. Nutjobs working for the government!
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Imagine that. Nutjobs working for the government!
Isn't that a requirement?
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I think you should wait until right before the next election and buy some national television time to read this theory. Be sure and wear a "hillary" t-shirt while your wearing it.

That should help
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I think you should wait until right before the next election and buy some national television time to read this theory. Be sure and wear a "hillary" t-shirt while your wearing it.

That should help
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no shit. they've been talking about controlled demolition for a long time. the third building was actually blown up with controlled explosives, the owner of that building + the world trade centers admitted it on live TV, he said the ny fire department recommended that they "pull it".
Yes, this is true. However the government still says it's not true which is exactly what the article is bitching about.

So many sheep eat what the media says word for word and wonder why they always have diafrhea.
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controlled demolition.... now that's a conspiracy worthy its name
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Yes, this is true. However the government still says it's not true which is exactly what the article is bitching about.

So many sheep eat what the media says word for word and wonder why they always have diafrhea.
yeah, those media people really fooled us sheep with the live TV.
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Yes, the Men in Black went in the middle of Ground Zero, and in just a few minutes had enough time to install the required explosives to take down a couple of 110 stories towers

Do you realize that it takes days to prepare demolitions like the one you see on TV?
Well...if there WAS a conspiracy, they would have had plenty of time to prepare right?
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Old 06-15-2005, 07:25 AM   #23
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I love it.

It doesn't get better than this.

Keyboard warriors advancing the theory that president bush started a war over stolen oil. The same day a memo surfaces proving the leader of the UN might have been the biggest oil criminal in the bunch.

Koffi's Defense to giving my our money to a company that paid millions to his son to be a "consultant".

"I didn't know my son worked for my best friend"

Even Clinton could lie better than that!!!!!!!!
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yeah, those media people really fooled us sheep with the live TV.
Yes, the same live TV I watched. You know the one that showed airplanes crashing into US buildings without being shot down by military forces because "they just didn't have time to get to them".

Anyway you dingleberry on Bush's ass... what does watching it on live TV change? The theory they are throwing around is that it was a conspiracy, as in set up beforehand.

You are welcome to try again though.
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I still say the aliens stole it.
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I love it.

It doesn't get better than this.

Keyboard warriors advancing the theory that president bush started a war over stolen oil. The same day a memo surfaces proving the leader of the UN might have been the biggest oil criminal in the bunch.

Koffi's Defense to giving my our money to a company that paid millions to his son to be a "consultant".

"I didn't know my son worked for my best friend"

Even Clinton could lie better than that!!!!!!!!
It is useless to argue with some people here.
I'm still surprised rich or joe6fuck havn't jumped in yet
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I'm still surprised rich or joe6fuck havn't jumped in yet
Rich worked the graveyard shift at Mickey D's last night. He's sleeping at the moment.
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When did YOU EVER work for Bush?.....I don't know if it's true or not but I'm just some pornographer who posts on GFY and I have no reason to discredit a man who actually worked for him and got his story printed in a REAL newspaper.

Notice how nobody tried to question the validity of the paper this time and have to come up with stuff like "operative word being former".
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When did YOU EVER work for Bush?.....I don't know if it's true or not but I'm just some pornographer who posts on GFY and I have no reason to discredit a man who actually worked for him and got his story printed in a REAL newspaper.

Notice how nobody tried to question the validity of the paper this time and have to come up with stuff like "operative word being former".
Can always pull a 12clicks, make some condescending remark then run away like a little girl. ;)
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I do find it odd that Mohammed Atta lived and trained in Venice, Florida(which is in southern Sararsota county )for 18 months before 9-11. On 9-11 Bush was at an elementary School in Sarasota, Florida which is in North Sarasota county about 20 miles from Venice, Florida. Not saying it means anything but that's just damn strange.
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I think you should wait until right before the next election and buy some national television time to read this theory. Be sure and wear a "hillary" t-shirt while your wearing it.

That should help
Hillary is going to be your next President. Just wait.
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I do find it odd that Mohammed Atta lived and trained in Venice, Florida(which is in southern Sararsota county )for 18 months before 9-11. On 9-11 Bush was at an elementary School in Sarasota, Florida which is in North Sarasota county about 20 miles from Venice, Florida. Not saying it means anything but that's just damn strange.
I was in Sarasota County on 9/11 too. Hope you don't blame me!
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I was in Sarasota County on 9/11 too. Hope you don't blame me!
OK smart ass. Nice way of taking something out of context. Ok 3500 counties in the US and both Bush and Atta happen to be in the same one. Not like it's in DC or Texas. Were talking about some little county in Florida no one has hardly heard of.
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In my opinion Hillary would win the nomination but would insure another Republican victory. I do not think the lady is electable.
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Here's another article:

http://www.arcticbeacon.com/articles...8131/27302.htm


Funny to see all the sheeps talking about non-sense... when none of you have a clue about who really control your government.. or the media for that matter.. Do a search on the Bilderberg group.. should enlighten the uneducated..
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In my opinion Hillary would win the nomination but would insure another Republican victory. I do not think the lady is electable.
Which republican is going to win? If McCain or Gulianni doesn't get the nod, who's left, Bill Frist?
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I was in Sarasota County on 9/11 too. Hope you don't blame me!
Oh my God, you're one of them!
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I love it.

It doesn't get better than this.

Keyboard warriors advancing the theory that president bush started a war over stolen oil. The same day a memo surfaces proving the leader of the UN might have been the biggest oil criminal in the bunch.

Koffi's Defense to giving my our money to a company that paid millions to his son to be a "consultant".

"I didn't know my son worked for my best friend"

Even Clinton could lie better than that!!!!!!!!
PROVING .... LOL ... Amazing !!!

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Carroll described Wilson, who is no longer with the firm, as someone who "exaggerated his own importance" and whose reports sometimes needed to be taken "with a pinch of salt."
no longer with the firm? Is it the same as " former " ..... LOL

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An interim report in March from the Independent Inquiry Committee found no evidence that the elder Annan improperly steered the U.N. contract to the firm that employed his son. (Full story)

That report was the second issued by the panel led by Paul Volcker, the former U.S. Federal Reserve chairman tapped by the United Nations to probe oil-for-food irregularities. The committee plans to issue its final report next month.

unreliable source I agree : CNN


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OK smart ass. Nice way of taking something out of context. Ok 3500 counties in the US and both Bush and Atta happen to be in the same one. Not like it's in DC or Texas. Were talking about some little county in Florida no one has hardly heard of.
My god! And he was in the same state as Jeb! What are the odds?! That's the thing about coincidences. There are so many potential ones they happen all the time.

Abraham Lincoln was elected to Congress in 1846.
John F. Kennedy was elected to Congress in 1946.
Abraham Lincoln was elected President in 1860.
John F. Kennedy was elected President in 1960.
The names Lincoln and Kennedy each contain seven letters.
Both were particularly concerned with civil rights.
Both wives lost their children while living in the White House.
Both Presidents were shot on a Friday.
Both were shot in the head.
Lincoln's secretary was named Kennedy.
Kennedy's secretary was named Lincoln.
Both were assassinated by Southerners.
Both were succeeded by Southerners.
Both successors were named Johnson.
Andrew Johnson, who succeeded Lincoln, was born in 1808.
Lyndon Johnson, who succeeded Kennedy, was born in 1908.
John Wilkes Booth, who assassinated Lincoln was born in 1839.
Lee Harvey Oswald, who assassinated Kennedy was born in 1939.
Both assassins were known by their three names.
Both names are comprised of fifteen letters
Booth ran from the theater and was caught in a warehouse.
Oswald ran from a warehouse and was caught in a theater.
Booth and Oswald were assassinated before their trials.

Yeah, Presidents travel to "little counties no one had hardly ever heard of" all the time.

Here are 4 days in August.

Aug. 15 - Punta Gorda, Fla.
Aug. 16 - Traverse City, Mich.
Aug. 17 - Ridley Park, Pa
Aug. 17 - Hedgesville, W.Va.
Aug. 18 - Chippewa Falls, Wis,
Aug. 18 - Hudson, Wis

Why are you pretending not to believe this crockpot theory of yours?
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Old 06-15-2005, 10:19 AM   #46
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yeah, those media people really fooled us sheep with the live TV.

and whats your point again..?

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Here are 4 days in August.

Aug. 15 - Punta Gorda, Fla.
Aug. 16 - Traverse City, Mich.
Aug. 17 - Ridley Park, Pa
Aug. 17 - Hedgesville, W.Va.
Aug. 18 - Chippewa Falls, Wis,
Aug. 18 - Hudson, Wis
And how many 9-11 terrorists trained in those places? And Punta Gorda is 20 miles south of Venice.

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what theory numbnuts? You're baiting. Go masurbate instead.
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And how many 9-11 terrorists trained in those places? And Punta Gorda is 20 miles south of Venice.



what theory numbnuts? You're baiting. Go masurbate instead.
I will be kind enough to remind you that you are posting about Bush being in Sarasota on 9/11 20 miles from Venice, Fl where Atta took flight lessons in
a thread about a "9/11 conspiracy".
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honestly i wouldnt be suprised if 9/11 was an inside job, think of everything that would come from it
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