Are you interested in buying QUALITY vintage erotica?

[Dagwolf]

I recently came across some information regarding quality vintage images, approximately 9,000 original scans, about 60% of them are from the 1840s-1940s; includes 50s/60s pinup girls, and a large number of 1970s Hustler-type photos. In fact, they apparently were purchased from a former Hustler photographer, so may be stuff that didn't appear in the magazines. These don't have site marks on them like many of the images I have.

The 70s stuff is not quite up my alley (but HOT!) Just thought some of you guys might be interested.

For details ICQ GraphicsByTia at 13-599-645.

[Mr.Fiction]

Do you have 2257 on the stuff from 1840?

[NaughtyRob]

You dont need 2257 stuff for any of that. I saw it on another board, looks like a great deal to me.

[Violetta]

any stockings content among it?

[graphicsbytia]

Hi Everyone,

Dagwolf sent me a link to this thread. Just wanted to clarify a couple things.. no there are no docs for this content, that's why I don't have it up on Midnight Digital. It's something I've had for a long time in my own personal collection, and had it inside a paysite for a while, but I just don't have time to run it anymore.

The latest date it was shot was late 70's so it's well within the area of content that is exempt from 2257

I'm not going to part it out, I want $500 for the lot
here are some samples http://www.vintagepornpics.info/samples/

hit me up if you're interested, here's my private e-mail [email protected]

Thanks for posting about it Dagwolf

[Theo]

Originally Posted by ContentProducer

You dont need 2257 stuff for any of that. I saw it on another board, looks like a great deal to me.

why you dont need?

[Theo]

ah ok i read last post

[graphicsbytia]

Originally Posted by Rockatansky

any stockings content among it?

yes, lots of stockings, bras, underwear that type of thing

[Dagwolf]

Originally Posted by Mr.Fiction

Do you have 2257 on the stuff from 1840?

Yep! ;)

Actually it's not required for images produced before a certain date. 1977 I think, but you should probably read the law yourself. As far as the content from the 70s, you'd have to talk to Tia. Maybe there's a way to contact the photographer for model releases.

[Mr.Fiction]

Originally Posted by Dagwolf

Yep! ;)

Actually it's not required for images produced before a certain date. 1977 I think, but you should probably read the law yourself. As far as the content from the 70s, you'd have to talk to Tia. Maybe there's a way to contact the photographer for model releases.

The 2257 start date is July 3, 1995.

[graphicsbytia]

Originally Posted by Dagwolf

Yep! ;)

Actually it's not required for images produced before a certain date. 1977 I think, but you should probably read the law yourself. As far as the content from the 70s, you'd have to talk to Tia. Maybe there's a way to contact the photographer for model releases.

*ahem.... no.. hehe

[chadglni]

Thank God times have changed.

[graphicsbytia]

I know.. they're all like that.. it'd be good for a hirsuite site though

[pornguy]

I am looking, but I dont think that I can use any of it,

[pornguy]

Link does not work for me.

[graphicsbytia]

here's a freesite I made with them a while back that'll show you more samples
http://www.vintagepornpics.info/2.html

[Cash]

Does vintage sell well??

[graphicsbytia]

Originally Posted by Cash

Does vintage sell well??

It converts better than any other niche I've tried. I've been doing vintage for years and get steady sales from it week after week.

[basschick]

i LOVE the content, but i'm concerned about exempt content. after all, how do the authorities really know when it was shot? you could easily shoot content to look like it's older.

if you go to
http://my.execpc.com/~xxxlaw/2257Tables5.24.05.htm
and search for Sec. 75.7 Exemption statement, you will find this:

"(b) If the primary producer and the secondary producer are different entities, the primary producer may certify to the secondary producer that the visual depictions in the matter satisfy the standards under paragraphs (a)(1) through (a)(3) of this section. The secondary producer may then cause to be affixed to every copy of the matter a statement attesting that the matter is not covered by the record-keeping requirements of 18 U.S.C. 2257(a)-(c) and of this part."

the worst-case scenario interpretation i get from this seems to indicate that perhaps the producer must give a certification of some sort regarding the date of the content. anyone have any input on this?

[s9ann0]

can't u just steal that stuff I mean its pre 2257 + copyright right ?

[tony286]

Man look at all those beards lol

[Dagwolf]

Originally Posted by spanno

can't u just steal that stuff I mean its pre 2257 + copyright right ?

Sure. You can search all over the web and right-click/save 9,000 vintage images Of course, they're likely to have been resized, optimized, colorized and any other kind of -ized you can think of .

[graphicsbytia]

Originally Posted by basschick

i LOVE the content, but i'm concerned about exempt content. after all, how do the authorities really know when it was shot? you could easily shoot content to look like it's older.

if you go to
http://my.execpc.com/~xxxlaw/2257Tables5.24.05.htm
and search for Sec. 75.7 Exemption statement, you will find this:

"(b) If the primary producer and the secondary producer are different entities, the primary producer may certify to the secondary producer that the visual depictions in the matter satisfy the standards under paragraphs (a)(1) through (a)(3) of this section. The secondary producer may then cause to be affixed to every copy of the matter a statement attesting that the matter is not covered by the record-keeping requirements of 18 U.S.C. 2257(a)-(c) and of this part."

the worst-case scenario interpretation i get from this seems to indicate that perhaps the producer must give a certification of some sort regarding the date of the content. anyone have any input on this?

Well.. the primary producer is deceased.. and I suspect so are a good percentage of the models... You could get an antique appraisal from someone who's a certified antique appraiser (like me) .. I can't say I'm certain about what you're saying .. the new regs really aren't very specific about proof of exempt content, they just say if it's shot before July 3, 1995 then it's exempt.

So.. since I'm not in the vintage porn business.. I'm not going to sweat it.. I know personally I'm going to leave my vintage sites up with the disclaimer about them being exempt

[graphicsbytia]

Originally Posted by spanno

can't u just steal that stuff I mean its pre 2257 + copyright right ?

yes you can do that.. but not to mine or I'll hunt you down like a dog..

actually all kidding aside.. sure you can do that.. but most images on the net are overoptimized or watermarked.. it would take you way more than $500 worth of time to just gather and work on them.

and btw.. these are all in galleries

[basschick]

what i'm saying is that i believe you need some kind of certification in order to use pre-1995 content legally - as per the OLD 2257, not just the new version.

[AsianDivaGirlsWebDude]

If you come across any vintage Asian content please let me know...

ADG Webmaster

[graphicsbytia]

Originally Posted by basschick

what i'm saying is that i believe you need some kind of certification in order to use pre-1995 content legally - as per the OLD 2257, not just the new version.

Well.. I guess each will have to decide on their own about this.. I'd do more research on it, but I just dont' have time, and like I said, if I were in the vintage content business I would have to.. but it took me long enough to research what applies to Midnight Digital...

one thing you haven't considered is that this content has very little hardcore.. it's mostly softcore which would lend itself nicely to a 2257 compliant site

[Violetta]

Will hit you up later!

[emmanuelle]

I'm interested
Hit me up on icq tomorrow to work out the details

[AgentCash]

Originally Posted by spanno

can't u just steal that stuff I mean its pre 2257 + copyright right ?

only the stuff before 1923 has passed out of copyright.

http://www.unc.edu/~unclng/public-d.htm

[graphicsbytia]

Originally Posted by AgentCash

only the stuff before 1923 has passed out of copyright.

http://www.unc.edu/~unclng/public-d.htm

The only pics I see that have a copywrite notice are the early ones that are older than 1923 and since the others were purchased from the photographer's estate and were photos he took himself, I don't really see a problem.

[graphicsbytia]

Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

If you come across any vintage Asian content please let me know...

ADG Webmaster

there are some asian pics in this package.. not a lot, maybe 20 or 30

[graphicsbytia]

people are saying they can't get to the links.. it's a server on registerfly I was trying out : /

try this link http://www.graphicsbytia.com/samples

[pussyluver]

Originally Posted by graphicsbytia

people are saying they can't get to the links.. it's a server on registerfly I was trying out : /

try this link http://www.graphicsbytia.com/samples

That link works for me

The pussies were hairy in those days, that's for sure.

[pussyluver]

Bump cause this is a good deal.

[Chris]

I <3 vintage porn

[graphicsbytia]

just wanted to mention, all this content is in ready made galleries, you can have it with them or just the photos alone.

Also, I'm only going to sell this package 10 times

[JackRoyal]

Am I correct in my belief that the copyrights have long been expired since 1840. How are you selling things with an expired copyright? I guess getting the image in the first place would require investment. I think copyrights only last 70 or so years.

[GatorB]

Originally Posted by basschick

i LOVE the content, but i'm concerned about exempt content. after all, how do the authorities really know when it was shot? you could easily shoot content to look like it's older?

No you can't. I can tell old stuff from new. Ever see new Hollywood movies that try to be set in the 70's and even 80s now( decades I can remember ) they just aren't realistic. I guess omeone growing up in the 50s and 60's can attest to movies that try to replicate those eras.

[GatorB]

Originally Posted by JackRoyal

Am I correct in my belief that the copyrights have long been expired since 1840. How are you selling things with an expired copyright?

Once a copyright expires ANYONE can sell it. Why do you think Disney keeps getting congress to extend copyright length to rediculous lengths. disney successfully got Congress to extend copyrights from 75 to 95 years. Otherwise some Disney stuff would have been exempt from copyright laws 3 years ago. Copyrights used to be 14 years long ago.

[graphicsbytia]

as I said before, The only pics I see that have a copywrite notice are the early ones that are older than 1923 and since the others were purchased from the photographer's estate and were photos he took himself, I don't really see a problem.

[majortom]

I know someone looking for that kinda stuff, got the name on the tip of my tongue, I will let you know as soon as I remember the addy.

Regards
MajorTom