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Dagwolf 06-12-2005 02:53 PM

Are you interested in buying QUALITY vintage erotica?
 
I recently came across some information regarding quality vintage images, approximately 9,000 original scans, about 60% of them are from the 1840s-1940s; includes 50s/60s pinup girls, and a large number of 1970s Hustler-type photos. In fact, they apparently were purchased from a former Hustler photographer, so may be stuff that didn't appear in the magazines. These don't have site marks on them like many of the images I have.

The 70s stuff is not quite up my alley (but HOT!) Just thought some of you guys might be interested.

For details ICQ GraphicsByTia at 13-599-645.

Mr.Fiction 06-12-2005 03:47 PM

Do you have 2257 on the stuff from 1840? :1orglaugh

NaughtyRob 06-12-2005 03:55 PM

You dont need 2257 stuff for any of that. I saw it on another board, looks like a great deal to me.

Violetta 06-12-2005 03:55 PM

any stockings content among it?

graphicsbytia 06-12-2005 03:56 PM

Hi Everyone,

Dagwolf sent me a link to this thread. Just wanted to clarify a couple things.. no there are no docs for this content, that's why I don't have it up on Midnight Digital. It's something I've had for a long time in my own personal collection, and had it inside a paysite for a while, but I just don't have time to run it anymore.

The latest date it was shot was late 70's so it's well within the area of content that is exempt from 2257

I'm not going to part it out, I want $500 for the lot
here are some samples http://www.vintagepornpics.info/samples/

hit me up if you're interested, here's my private e-mail [email protected]

Thanks for posting about it Dagwolf :)

Theo 06-12-2005 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ContentProducer
You dont need 2257 stuff for any of that. I saw it on another board, looks like a great deal to me.


why you dont need?

Theo 06-12-2005 03:57 PM

ah ok i read last post :)

graphicsbytia 06-12-2005 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rockatansky
any stockings content among it?


yes, lots of stockings, bras, underwear that type of thing

Dagwolf 06-12-2005 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.Fiction
Do you have 2257 on the stuff from 1840? :1orglaugh

Yep! ;)

Actually it's not required for images produced before a certain date. 1977 I think, but you should probably read the law yourself. :) As far as the content from the 70s, you'd have to talk to Tia. Maybe there's a way to contact the photographer for model releases.

Mr.Fiction 06-12-2005 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dagwolf
Yep! ;)

Actually it's not required for images produced before a certain date. 1977 I think, but you should probably read the law yourself. :) As far as the content from the 70s, you'd have to talk to Tia. Maybe there's a way to contact the photographer for model releases.

The 2257 start date is July 3, 1995. :)

graphicsbytia 06-12-2005 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dagwolf
Yep! ;)

Actually it's not required for images produced before a certain date. 1977 I think, but you should probably read the law yourself. :) As far as the content from the 70s, you'd have to talk to Tia. Maybe there's a way to contact the photographer for model releases.

*ahem.... no.. hehe

chadglni 06-12-2005 04:15 PM

Thank God times have changed.

http://www.vintagepornpics.info/samples/WSK0572A.jpg

graphicsbytia 06-12-2005 04:20 PM

I know.. they're all like that.. it'd be good for a hirsuite site though :)

pornguy 06-12-2005 04:23 PM

I am looking, but I dont think that I can use any of it,

pornguy 06-12-2005 04:25 PM

Link does not work for me.

graphicsbytia 06-12-2005 04:26 PM

here's a freesite I made with them a while back that'll show you more samples
http://www.vintagepornpics.info/2.html

Cash 06-12-2005 05:01 PM

Does vintage sell well??

graphicsbytia 06-12-2005 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cash
Does vintage sell well??

It converts better than any other niche I've tried. I've been doing vintage for years and get steady sales from it week after week.

basschick 06-12-2005 05:56 PM

i LOVE the content, but i'm concerned about exempt content. after all, how do the authorities really know when it was shot? you could easily shoot content to look like it's older.

if you go to
http://my.execpc.com/~xxxlaw/2257Tables5.24.05.htm
and search for Sec. 75.7 Exemption statement, you will find this:

"(b) If the primary producer and the secondary producer are different entities, the primary producer may certify to the secondary producer that the visual depictions in the matter satisfy the standards under paragraphs (a)(1) through (a)(3) of this section. The secondary producer may then cause to be affixed to every copy of the matter a statement attesting that the matter is not covered by the record-keeping requirements of 18 U.S.C. 2257(a)-(c) and of this part."

the worst-case scenario interpretation i get from this seems to indicate that perhaps the producer must give a certification of some sort regarding the date of the content. anyone have any input on this?

s9ann0 06-12-2005 06:05 PM

can't u just steal that stuff I mean its pre 2257 + copyright right ?

tony286 06-12-2005 06:08 PM

Man look at all those beards lol

Dagwolf 06-12-2005 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spanno
can't u just steal that stuff I mean its pre 2257 + copyright right ?

Sure. You can search all over the web and right-click/save 9,000 vintage images :) Of course, they're likely to have been resized, optimized, colorized and any other kind of -ized you can think of .

graphicsbytia 06-12-2005 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by basschick
i LOVE the content, but i'm concerned about exempt content. after all, how do the authorities really know when it was shot? you could easily shoot content to look like it's older.

if you go to
http://my.execpc.com/~xxxlaw/2257Tables5.24.05.htm
and search for Sec. 75.7 Exemption statement, you will find this:

"(b) If the primary producer and the secondary producer are different entities, the primary producer may certify to the secondary producer that the visual depictions in the matter satisfy the standards under paragraphs (a)(1) through (a)(3) of this section. The secondary producer may then cause to be affixed to every copy of the matter a statement attesting that the matter is not covered by the record-keeping requirements of 18 U.S.C. 2257(a)-(c) and of this part."

the worst-case scenario interpretation i get from this seems to indicate that perhaps the producer must give a certification of some sort regarding the date of the content. anyone have any input on this?

Well.. the primary producer is deceased.. and I suspect so are a good percentage of the models... You could get an antique appraisal from someone who's a certified antique appraiser (like me) .. I can't say I'm certain about what you're saying .. the new regs really aren't very specific about proof of exempt content, they just say if it's shot before July 3, 1995 then it's exempt.

So.. since I'm not in the vintage porn business.. I'm not going to sweat it.. I know personally I'm going to leave my vintage sites up with the disclaimer about them being exempt

graphicsbytia 06-12-2005 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spanno
can't u just steal that stuff I mean its pre 2257 + copyright right ?

yes you can do that.. but not to mine or I'll hunt you down like a dog.. :1orglaugh

actually all kidding aside.. sure you can do that.. but most images on the net are overoptimized or watermarked.. it would take you way more than $500 worth of time to just gather and work on them.

and btw.. these are all in galleries :)

basschick 06-12-2005 06:41 PM

what i'm saying is that i believe you need some kind of certification in order to use pre-1995 content legally - as per the OLD 2257, not just the new version.

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 06-12-2005 06:46 PM

If you come across any vintage Asian content please let me know...

ADG Webmaster

graphicsbytia 06-12-2005 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by basschick
what i'm saying is that i believe you need some kind of certification in order to use pre-1995 content legally - as per the OLD 2257, not just the new version.

Well.. I guess each will have to decide on their own about this.. I'd do more research on it, but I just dont' have time, and like I said, if I were in the vintage content business I would have to.. but it took me long enough to research what applies to Midnight Digital...

one thing you haven't considered is that this content has very little hardcore.. it's mostly softcore which would lend itself nicely to a 2257 compliant site

Violetta 06-12-2005 07:59 PM

Will hit you up later! :)

emmanuelle 06-12-2005 09:33 PM

I'm interested
Hit me up on icq tomorrow to work out the details

AgentCash 06-12-2005 09:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spanno
can't u just steal that stuff I mean its pre 2257 + copyright right ?


only the stuff before 1923 has passed out of copyright.

http://www.unc.edu/~unclng/public-d.htm

graphicsbytia 06-13-2005 01:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AgentCash
only the stuff before 1923 has passed out of copyright.

http://www.unc.edu/~unclng/public-d.htm

The only pics I see that have a copywrite notice are the early ones that are older than 1923 and since the others were purchased from the photographer's estate and were photos he took himself, I don't really see a problem.

graphicsbytia 06-13-2005 04:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude
If you come across any vintage Asian content please let me know...

ADG Webmaster

there are some asian pics in this package.. not a lot, maybe 20 or 30

graphicsbytia 06-13-2005 05:53 AM

people are saying they can't get to the links.. it's a server on registerfly I was trying out : /

try this link http://www.graphicsbytia.com/samples

pussyluver 06-13-2005 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by graphicsbytia
people are saying they can't get to the links.. it's a server on registerfly I was trying out : /

try this link http://www.graphicsbytia.com/samples

That link works for me :thumbsup

The pussies were hairy in those days, that's for sure.

pussyluver 06-13-2005 07:16 PM

Bump cause this is a good deal.

Chris 06-14-2005 09:41 AM

I <3 vintage porn

graphicsbytia 06-14-2005 05:23 PM

just wanted to mention, all this content is in ready made galleries, you can have it with them or just the photos alone.

Also, I'm only going to sell this package 10 times

JackRoyal 06-14-2005 05:49 PM

Am I correct in my belief that the copyrights have long been expired since 1840. How are you selling things with an expired copyright? I guess getting the image in the first place would require investment. I think copyrights only last 70 or so years.

GatorB 06-14-2005 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by basschick
i LOVE the content, but i'm concerned about exempt content. after all, how do the authorities really know when it was shot? you could easily shoot content to look like it's older?

No you can't. I can tell old stuff from new. Ever see new Hollywood movies that try to be set in the 70's and even 80s now( decades I can remember ) they just aren't realistic. I guess omeone growing up in the 50s and 60's can attest to movies that try to replicate those eras.

GatorB 06-14-2005 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JackRoyal
Am I correct in my belief that the copyrights have long been expired since 1840. How are you selling things with an expired copyright?

Once a copyright expires ANYONE can sell it. Why do you think Disney keeps getting congress to extend copyright length to rediculous lengths. disney successfully got Congress to extend copyrights from 75 to 95 years. Otherwise some Disney stuff would have been exempt from copyright laws 3 years ago. Copyrights used to be 14 years long ago.

graphicsbytia 06-14-2005 07:33 PM

as I said before, The only pics I see that have a copywrite notice are the early ones that are older than 1923 and since the others were purchased from the photographer's estate and were photos he took himself, I don't really see a problem.

majortom 06-15-2005 03:14 AM

I know someone looking for that kinda stuff, got the name on the tip of my tongue, I will let you know as soon as I remember the addy.

Regards
MajorTom


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