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wimpy · 06-11-2005, 07:10 PM

Please post corrections if I'm wrong, and post additional information I omit. I know there is controversy about much of it, I'd like to try and keep this thread centered on what is generally agreed upon.

My understanding of the new 2257 is this:

if you show hardcore, genitals, or kink, you need to comply.
The authorities can give you a URL and you must be able to produce the paperwork with no further information.
you need to have a copy of every version of every URL that contains nudity. (I think that means if you use an ad server, you need a printout of every possible version of every page.)
Your paperwork must be organized alphabetically by real name, again by stage names, and again by URL. (or something like that, please clarify if you understand it.)
digital copies of these records is sufficient.

Did I leave anything out?
Are there any errors?

Snake Doctor · 06-11-2005, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by wimpy

Did I leave anything out?

Yeah you left out the part where you hire a lawyer and have them explain it to you

DamageX · 06-11-2005, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Lenny2

Yeah you left out the part where you hire a lawyer and have them explain it to you

He mentioned it's for dummies, dummies don't need lawyers.

devilspost · 06-11-2005, 07:20 PM

wimpy · 06-11-2005, 07:35 PM

someone else posted this URL, it looks like a good synopsis of the regs. It does not interpret them, though.
http://my.execpc.com/~xxxlaw/2257Tables5.24.05.htm

Spunky · 06-11-2005, 07:37 PM

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bllott · 06-11-2005, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by DamageX

He mentioned it's for dummies, dummies don't need lawyers.

good point

Dirty Dane · 06-11-2005, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Lenny2

Yeah you left out the part where you hire a lawyer and have them explain it to you

After reading all the "my lawyer said this - and our lawyer said that" it looks like the laywers are more confused than the webmasters. I dont trust anyone who charge for explaining something I should have learned in elementary school

Best thing to do now, is to do what it says, and if something is in question... do it the safest way - don't ask others.

Snake Doctor · 06-11-2005, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty Dane

After reading all the "my lawyer said this - and our lawyer said that" it looks like the laywers are more confused than the webmasters. I dont trust anyone who charge for explaining something I should have learned in elementary school

Best thing to do now, is to do what it says, and if something is in question... do it the safest way - don't ask others.

Well that's one way to look at it.

You can also look at it this way.
Since the regs on their face are very confusing and seem to contradict themselves and the law, the fact that you did seek counsel and followed the steps your counsel gave you could indeed be considered a mitigating factor when you stand before the judge for a violation.

QuaWee · 06-11-2005, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by DamageX

He mentioned it's for dummies, dummies don't need lawyers.

MyNameIsEmily · 06-23-2005, 09:54 AM

You also left out the fact that it's US.

Get off your PC and take a drive up to Canada and set up shop. A lot nicer up there in comparison to the "mean streets" of Rhode Island.

The US market is DEAD.

dcortez · 06-23-2005, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by wimpy

2257 for Dummies

CORRECTION:

2257 is for Dummies living in USSA

Good luck guys! The free world is rooting for you.

MyNameIsEmily · 06-23-2005, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by dcortez

CORRECTION:

2257 is for Dummies living in USSA

Good luck guys! The free world is rooting for you.

Who do you think will dominate the industry? UK, Canada, Germany?
In betting on the UK. But I'm probably wrong.

dcortez · 06-23-2005, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by MyNameIsEmily

Who do you think will dominate the industry? UK, Canada, Germany?
In betting on the UK. But I'm probably wrong.

It depends on where all the americans move to.

I think the EU as a whole is a formidable and growing force of economy for all sectors of business (without the moral hangups/games of the US). I'm betting on EU and in Euro Dollars we trust!

Even if this 2257 silliness is 'resolved' it's just too much of a hassle to deal with US DOJ mentality (which does represent a legal majority).

Canada is already looking into filing trade complaints today because of the violations against our Privacy Laws being promoted by 2257.

There is no question that the US adult surfer $$$ market is huge, but when you weigh in the nuisance factors, real costs, and risks just because of american morality peddlers (again, a democratically legal majority of the population), the EU has much to offer as a market and business environment which definitely offsets and market losses.

-Dino

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MyNameIsEmily Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 887	You also left out the fact that it's US. Get off your PC and take a drive up to Canada and set up shop. A lot nicer up there in comparison to the "mean streets" of Rhode Island. The US market is DEAD. __________________