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Old 06-11-2005, 04:39 PM   #1
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Sobegirl is still trying to charge for 2257 documents

Hi Rictor,

Yes that is correct I do have the docs available for download.
I have them in directories on my FTP server. Also in the same
directories are the new wmv files in 4 speeds. The documentation is
free when webmasters upgrade to the wmv files. I understand that there
are some out there that feel that I should not be compensated for all
the difficult work I have done to make the docs available. There is
nothing I can do to change some that have this point of view which I
personally feel is not fair to me. So what I am doing is to offer the
new wmv files that come in 4 speeds 1.5 mb, 700 kb, 350 kb and 128 kb.
I can upgrade all your files and give you all the documentation for
just $699.00. It has been a tremendous amout of work to make these docs
avaialbe to you and the wmv files are great. To try and make this deal
even more fair to you... you do not have to get the same files you
bought before. YOu can choose to get the newest files I have for sale.
Let me know what you think..
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Old 06-11-2005, 04:42 PM   #2
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What a shock..... but I'm not suprised... it is sobe idiot after all.
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What an ass. Can not wait to put himself out of business.
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After all the retarded board spamming sobe has done, after all the blowout deals where many dozens of webmasters came at Sobe with all sorts of complaints, after all the shit over the years about this guy's company..... I find myself wondering why some of you continue to try to do business with the guy.

Is there something causing temporary insanity in your water?
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After all the retarded board spamming sobe has done, after all the blowout deals where many dozens of webmasters came at Sobe with all sorts of complaints, after all the shit over the years about this guy's company..... I find myself wondering why some of you continue to try to do business with the guy.

Is there something causing temporary insanity in your water?
I bought these videos during his first ever content blowout before any of the drama came out.
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if you own some of his content, just have your lawyer file a lawsuit. It's cheap and easy.
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Pulling shit like that will kill his sales in the long run. What an idiot.
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Old 06-11-2005, 04:56 PM   #12
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Between all the shit he pulled, it's your loss that you did business with him and bought what you thought would be really really cheap content. Now you are fucked. That totally sucks, for sure.

So many people came to me saying well I wanna buy your stuff, but SoBe's is cheaper. Even when my stuff was at cutthroat prices to begin with. Again, your loss, it's now gonna cost you more or you'll have to drop the content from your sites.

We've offered docs for a long time because I had a feeling when I first heard about this. Fully complaint quality content at ridiculous prices when you buy from us. Who would've thought??
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Old 06-11-2005, 04:58 PM   #13
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Oh, by the way, I saw Joe from AMA post something to the effect that if you bought from SoBe what was originally Joe's, you didn't get the docs either. Joe seemed pretty adimant that it was gonna cost you something if you went to him or SoBe for them. On Joe's end, I don't disagree with him. But on SoBe's end, well he's just a fucktard and what did you expect??
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I bought these videos during his first ever content blowout before any of the drama came out.
I can see lawyers making the most money off this 2257 thing in the long run.
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Old 06-11-2005, 05:13 PM   #16
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Between all the shit he pulled, it's your loss that you did business with him and bought what you thought would be really really cheap content. Now you are fucked. That totally sucks, for sure.

So many people came to me saying well I wanna buy your stuff, but SoBe's is cheaper. Even when my stuff was at cutthroat prices to begin with. Again, your loss, it's now gonna cost you more or you'll have to drop the content from your sites.

We've offered docs for a long time because I had a feeling when I first heard about this. Fully complaint quality content at ridiculous prices when you buy from us. Who would've thought??
Spamming my thread doesn't make me want to do business with you. I'm sure others feel the same way.

As for Amacontent, he was nice enough to grant me a license to the content I bought from Sobe 2-3 years when I e-mailed him after the initial drama came up. I spent some money with him and will probably pick up that $3500 content blowout of his. Hell, I bet that blowout has all the documents I need and duplicates of all this Sobe content.
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Hoo boy... Charging for 2257 info? on content that's already been sold?
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Hoo boy... Charging for 2257 info? on content that's already been sold?

DOJ says primary producers MUST turn over ID docs to secondary producers.

i suspect they will be giving sobe a visit.
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I bought these videos during his first ever content blowout before any of the drama came out.
I got stuff from him back in 2k1. Oh well.
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i suspect they will be giving sobe a visit.
This would be a slam dunk case for the DOJ. I hope there aren't any secondary producers who feel ripped off by Sobe.

I wonder how well Erik sleeps at night?
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This would be a slam dunk case for the DOJ. I hope there aren't any secondary producers who feel ripped off by Sobe.

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What's really fucked up is that most of the shit people have bought from Sobe was actually amacontent. Content that Sobe sold in violation of his agreement with amacontent.

Now he's charging for someone else's docs, docs that ama would have given you for free had you bought the stuff from him. (Hell he gave me a license to use the stuff I bought from Sobe even though Sobe fucked him over)

I made a thread earlier about my new stance on content providers and how the level of cooperation we receive getting our docs together now is directly proportionate to the amount of $$ I'll spend on your content later.

Sobe = $0

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Rictor,

SoBe was the spam KING, and YOU bought from him, fell for it... I've got a near perfect record here on this board, with many major players singing my praises. I wasn't trying to spam your thread, I was simply stating the plain facts. Let "others" think for themselves before you talk about them and what they might or might not want to do.

I'm glad you got the license from Joe. He's a good guy, he's on my Testimonials page saying there's "at least one honest person in Florida". Again, I'm sorry you felt that way. I do good and honest business here, and am always glad to jump into a thread about SoBe.

I think that passage about secondary producers is really gonna screw SoBe, and I hope it does.
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Send him a letter from your lawyer and he'll cough up the docs he is required to by law
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SoBe was the spam KING, and YOU bought from him, fell for it... I've got a near perfect record here on this board, with many major players singing my praises. I wasn't trying to spam your thread, I was simply stating the plain facts. Let "others" think for themselves before you talk about them and what they might or might not want to do.
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all these content people crying about getting the docs in order being a pain, costly etc etc deserve to take a hit to the wallet for poor record keeping. If they would have kept everything on file to beginw ith there would not have been any issues getting prepared for J23rd.

Come on, you're a fucking CONTENT STORE. Why the hell would you not already have all the documentation sorted in your systems?
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what baffles me is why people woould buy content without docs to begin with? the laws that have been in the system for years required docs to be kept, so why worry about it now?
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Between all the shit he pulled, it's your loss that you did business with him and bought what you thought would be really really cheap content. Now you are fucked. That totally sucks, for sure.

So many people came to me saying well I wanna buy your stuff, but SoBe's is cheaper. Even when my stuff was at cutthroat prices to begin with. Again, your loss, it's now gonna cost you more or you'll have to drop the content from your sites.

We've offered docs for a long time because I had a feeling when I first heard about this. Fully complaint quality content at ridiculous prices when you buy from us. Who would've thought??
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what baffles me is why people woould buy content without docs to begin with? the laws that have been in the system for years required docs to be kept, so why worry about it now?
Some people will buy professionally and others will buy using a different method.

2257 has been in place for years, it's an excellent reason to insist you get the documents that confirm the age and willingness of the model to be published.

Sobe has never given out documents, acts like an idiot and prodcses an average product. Now let me think a while why he's still in business.
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I thought of the answer, people buy because it's cheap. And then complain about bad service, ratios and retention.
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Now let me think a while why he's still in business.
obviously because idiots travel in packs...i guess it takes an idiot to buy from an idiot
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obviously because idiots travel in packs...i guess it takes an idiot to buy from an idiot
That's a bit harsh but I do sometimes wonder about the buying motives of some when it comes to the only product we really sell on the Adult Net.

Some have screwed down prices to a level that makes it hard for many to survive, they buy from people who can't shoot porn to save their lives and wonder why it turns out to be crap. They buy from people who have a deal to good to be true and then are amazed they got ripped off.

Too many professionals buy content like amateurs.

Look at all the top sites, look at the content and ask yourself why they are making money.
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Of that accusation, Eric is innocent.

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You know what... despite what shoddy reputation sobe may have, I bought a few movie clips from erik just last week. I got the 2257 docs and I'm having my lawyer go over it to make sure its A-OK for post June 23. I will keep this thread updated on the outcome of this test...

Like others have said, requiring 2257 docs is nothing new and has been around for a few years at least. Only now you need to keep them on file and more in depth infomation about the models...
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One day people will wake up and understand that cheap content is not always as cheap as it seems. It is cheap for a reason, and you get what you pay for. In the long run cheap content will probally cost you more $$$$ (less retention, less signups, less happy customers, etc...)
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I don't even know why anyone bought from Sobe knowing that he did that kind of bullshit.. Funny, it's such a HUGE amount of work, he must think people are stupid, other providers all did the same thing and don't charge for the fucking service. Under the new 2257 regs, wouldn't he be liable if he refused to provide documentation to a secondary producer? Fucking idiot.
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After all the retarded board spamming sobe has done, after all the blowout deals where many dozens of webmasters came at Sobe with all sorts of complaints, after all the shit over the years about this guy's company..... I find myself wondering why some of you continue to try to do business with the guy.

Is there something causing temporary insanity in your water?
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You know what... despite what shoddy reputation sobe may have, I bought a few movie clips from erik just last week. I got the 2257 docs and I'm having my lawyer go over it to make sure its A-OK for post June 23. I will keep this thread updated on the outcome of this test...

Like others have said, requiring 2257 docs is nothing new and has been around for a few years at least. Only now you need to keep them on file and more in depth infomation about the models...

the revised regs REQUIRE the primary producer to turn over ID docs to the secondary producer.

Sobe is clearly violating federal law (criminal, not civil law---with felonious penalties) for putting conditions on the release of those docs.

further he is pissing off a bunch of secondary producers.

watch the DOJ make an example out of him.
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Old 06-12-2005, 11:16 AM   #47
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One day people will wake up and understand that cheap content is not always as cheap as it seems. It is cheap for a reason, and you get what you pay for. In the long run cheap content will probally cost you more $$$$ (less retention, less signups, less happy customers, etc...)
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You guys are all a bunch of crybabies. You can talk all the shit you want but SoBeGirl has been in business way longer than most of you piss ants and They continue to be in business and grow.

I upgraded my old shitty MPG formats to the new WMV files and got the docs for free. I am not a cheap ass like most of you and I have no complaints with the service. When I upgraded I got all the docs for the sets that I have bought over the years.

Just give it up all you stupid jealous fucks. SoBeGirl is here to stay because he does good business and offers webmasters what they want and need. Not only did I get great content this time but I also get free web hosting with my order. I will be putting all my galleries on a sobegirl server for free. Sucking up his bandwidth and saving the money to buy stuff I like.

SoBeGirl content has it's place in this biz as do others. No content provider is perfect but SoBeGirl is one of the best by far. I love the free web hosting they are offering now. I can't wait to get my video galleries up on the Hun and have SoBeGirl pay for all the bandwidth. What a great idea that will save me lots of $$$$$$
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You guys are all a bunch of crybabies. You can talk all the shit you want but SoBeGirl has been in business way longer than most of you piss ants and They continue to be in business and grow.

I upgraded my old shitty MPG formats to the new WMV files and got the docs for free. I am not a cheap ass like most of you and I have no complaints with the service. When I upgraded I got all the docs for the sets that I have bought over the years.

Just give it up all you stupid jealous fucks. SoBeGirl is here to stay because he does good business and offers webmasters what they want and need. Not only did I get great content this time but I also get free web hosting with my order. I will be putting all my galleries on a sobegirl server for free. Sucking up his bandwidth and saving the money to buy stuff I like.

SoBeGirl content has it's place in this biz as do others. No content provider is perfect but SoBeGirl is one of the best by far. I love the free web hosting they are offering now. I can't wait to get my video galleries up on the Hun and have SoBeGirl pay for all the bandwidth. What a great idea that will save me lots of $$$$$$
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