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Old 06-11-2005, 08:02 AM   #51
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Old 06-11-2005, 08:04 AM   #52
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Im really suprised everyone keeps saying there is no call for ethnic models, this is real news to me. I have a real call for good black and latina girls for magazine and website work, i guess im the minority.
You get out and make work happen; but some others sit back and wait for work to come to them. Anyone who says they cannot sell "ethnic" content is simply not try to sell it. His comments, which he claimed to be jokes, are more or less how he thinks and therefore affect his work.

The word ethnic is racists in its use. It means anything other than Anglo-saxon which by the way is an ethnic group. Why do white people claim to have no ethnicity? The use of the word ethnic in america is an illustration of how whites juxtapose themselves against the world.
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Old 06-11-2005, 08:10 AM   #53
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yup, not saying there's NO market for ethnic girls but the ethnic girl has to be a stunner to get noticed and become a star.

this i think is the best one who's submitted so far - i like the one i posted above in this thread but that's a shitty little webcam pic and she's not smiling.


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Be direct and don't over explain yourself.

Dear Persons Name

Thank you for applying for a modeling assignment with our company.

Your application has now been processed by Company Name.

It is important for us to follow strict policies and guidelines when hiring models for our promotions. Unfortunately, at this stage, we are unable to approve your application.

If you require further assistance or need to discuss the outcome of your application please feel free to email us: [email protected]. You should get a reply within 4 calendar weeks.

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If the 4 weeks doesn't deter them, just reply with an email that says "There is an abundance of models that matched the criteria you supplied, so the system automatically denied your application. Thank you again for your application"

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Old 06-11-2005, 08:15 AM   #55
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You get out and make work happen; but some others sit back and wait for work to come to them. Anyone who says they cannot sell "ethnic" content is simply not try to sell it. His comments, which he claimed to be jokes, are more or less how he thinks and therefore affect his work.

The word ethnic is racists in its use. It means anything other than Anglo-saxon which by the way is an ethnic group. Why do white people claim to have no ethnicity? The use of the word ethnic in america is an illustration of how whites juxtapose themselves against the world.
What a fucking idiot you are. He said he can't get TOP DOLLAR for black or asian girls. He didn't say people didn't want to buy them. Lucky for him when you are booked solid with clients you can choose to shoot the ones that make you the most money, in this case cute white girls. If you want to drop him a briefcase of cash for some black girls I'm sure he'd be happy to hook you up. Hell, since anyone that wants to sell it can you should buy shoots with all of his models. You'll be rich!
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Old 06-11-2005, 08:50 AM   #56
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What a fucking idiot you are. He said he can't get TOP DOLLAR for black or asian girls. He didn't say people didn't want to buy them. Lucky for him when you are booked solid with clients you can choose to shoot the ones that make you the most money, in this case cute white girls. If you want to drop him a briefcase of cash for some black girls I'm sure he'd be happy to hook you up. Hell, since anyone that wants to sell it can you should buy shoots with all of his models. You'll be rich!

Wow, you smarted this idiot right on up. I'll use your "top dollar" logic in my biz now! That's right, I'm dumping all recurring sponsors and free trials and going for the TOP Dollar. I'm only going to use the $300 per signup sponsors!!! Fuck that low dollar shit with 500 rebills and 10,000 niches.

Why send 100's of sign ups to recurring programs when I can just send 10 sign ups to the mega-fuck-plex and get rich.

YeeeeeeHAAAAAAAA!
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Old 06-11-2005, 08:51 AM   #57
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Send them to me, I need all the cute ethnic models that I can get.

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Old 06-11-2005, 08:52 AM   #58
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My new modeling recruiting site is getting lots of submissions - many from ethnic girls. Maybe I should have said 'Caucasians Only' above the form area but I think that might even be illegal in this day and age.

None of my customers want anything to do with ethnic girls or black girls. When they submit I have been emailing them back with a short polite reply -

Thanks for submitting your photos! Sorry but we don't want your kind around here.

Is there a nicer way of putting it?
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I really think you're quite lovely and thank you for your submission but our clientele has made it perfectly clear they don't like you coloreds.
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Old 06-11-2005, 09:07 AM   #60
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Wow, you smarted this idiot right on up. I'll use your "top dollar" logic in my biz now! That's right, I'm dumping all recurring sponsors and free trials and going for the TOP Dollar. I'm only going to use the $300 per signup sponsors!!! Fuck that low dollar shit with 500 rebills and 10,000 niches.

Why send 100's of sign ups to recurring programs when I can just send 10 sign ups to the mega-fuck-plex and get rich.

YeeeeeeHAAAAAAAA!
HE IS BOOKED FUCKING SOLID. Of course he's going for top dollar only.
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Old 06-11-2005, 09:29 AM   #61
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HE IS BOOKED FUCKING SOLID. Of course he's going for top dollar only.
Yeah and that's why he's waisting hours making himself look stupid posting on GFY instead of shooting some ethnic bitch during this time and making $3000 on non-exclusive sales.

If he took some good "ethnic" pics and posted them here he would sell 50 sets by lunch time.
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Old 06-11-2005, 09:33 AM   #62
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PS: He needs $25k for the bitch he's showing because 15k goes to her 10 pounds of pancake make up.

You can shoot black girls without make up.
Too many white chicks look like fucking monsters without makeup.
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Old 06-11-2005, 09:36 AM   #63
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Old 06-11-2005, 09:37 AM   #64
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My new modeling recruiting site is getting lots of submissions - many from ethnic girls. Maybe I should have said 'Caucasians Only' above the form area but I think that might even be illegal in this day and age.

It is illegal to specify ethicity/race in an employment ad generally. Does the same apply for model positions? It doesn't make sense that it would. Modeling is superficial and models are chosen for a specific look. Therefore, it would make sense for you to be able to state that it your ad.
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Old 06-11-2005, 09:42 AM   #65
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My new modeling recruiting site is getting lots of submissions - many from ethnic girls. Maybe I should have said 'Caucasians Only' above the form area but I think that might even be illegal in this day and age.

None of my customers want anything to do with ethnic girls or black girls. When they submit I have been emailing them back with a short polite reply -

Thanks for submitting your photos! Sorry but we don't want your kind around here.

Is there a nicer way of putting it?
Just say that you only want caucasian girls so that the ethnic girls don't call. It isn't like you're a company offering a full time job....I've told white girls to their face that I can't use white girls because they can't sell well for me. None of them get pissy about it.

Either this post is a joke or you really have no social skills, etiquette, or tact.
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Old 06-11-2005, 09:47 AM   #66
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im sure theres other guys would would take them off your hands, mabye even give you a referral fee.
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Old 06-11-2005, 10:16 AM   #67
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Old 06-11-2005, 10:16 AM   #68
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Old 06-11-2005, 10:18 AM   #69
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It is illegal to specify ethicity/race in an employment ad generally. Does the same apply for model positions? It doesn't make sense that it would. Modeling is superficial and models are chosen for a specific look. Therefore, it would make sense for you to be able to state that it your ad.
Actually it is illegal... Just as much as ONLY accepting or taking females.. LOL. The newspaper where I put ads on, just changed ( a few months ago ) some rules, because they were getting some shit.. Now all model ads, can not say: girls only or no males. LOL Crazy shit...
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this whole thread was 'IRONY' - i was actually feeling bad because i've got a bunch of submissions from Latinas, Asians, black girls and the real truth is that they won't sell - nobody will pay $25,000 for a black girl, Latina, Asian - but they will line up for cute white girl.
It's either flying over peoples' heads, or people are too easily offended. I found all your posts hilarious.
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hahaha. mutt is one of the funnier people on message boards. i wish he would post more often.

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Gook referrals? Sorry I don't need your racist bullshit (I should have read your earlier posts more carefully).

Hopefully any Asian models that contact you will find me on their own, or if any non-racist people would like to refer Asian models to me, yes, I do offer a referral fee for any models accepted.

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People don't get offended by taking advantage of broke college aged girls by having them choking on cock for a couple hundred bucks, but they get offended by an obvious racial toned joke. Ahaha. People crack me up.
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People don't get offended by taking advantage of broke college aged girls by having them choking on cock for a couple hundred bucks, but they get offended by an obvious racial toned joke. Ahaha. People crack me up.
It's not the racism that is offensive, it's the blatant ignorance of the original statement.
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It's not the racism that is offensive, it's the blatant ignorance of the original statement.
You, of all people, didn't find it funny?

Hilarious watching people get so pissy about absolutely nothing.
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My new modeling recruiting site is getting lots of submissions - many from ethnic girls. Maybe I should have said 'Caucasians Only' above the form area but I think that might even be illegal in this day and age.

None of my customers want anything to do with ethnic girls or black girls. When they submit I have been emailing them back with a short polite reply -

Thanks for submitting your photos! Sorry but we don't want your kind around here.

Is there a nicer way of putting it?
Do you hire black MALES? Because I'd wish ther'd be less of that. I'm sure there is some niche for guys that get off on black dudes fucking, but not me. And that's like 50% or more in porn nowadays.
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You, of all people, didn't find it funny?

Hilarious watching people get so pissy about absolutely nothing.
There's funny and then there's ignorant. I'm funny.
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It's not the racism that is offensive, it's the blatant ignorance of the original statement.
I could be wrong but I think the original statement was purposefully blatantly ignorant.
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yup, not saying there's NO market for ethnic girls but the ethnic girl has to be a stunner to get noticed and become a star.

this i think is the best one who's submitted so far - i like the one i posted above in this thread but that's a shitty little webcam pic and she's not smiling.

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I could be wrong but I think the original statement was purposefully blatantly ignorant.
Then he needs to make sure that his blatent ignorant statements are at least FUNNY.
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Then he needs to make sure that his blatent ignorant statements are at least FUNNY.
Going on that interperatation in the first place I found it funny.
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Talk to another producer that wants ethnic models, and refer the girls to him.
That works as well.

Do some networking, and dump them on someone else. I know I have gotten a lot of toads (not dealing with ethinicty, just ugly, or girls I would never use) and I refer them to other photographers less picky.

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