Hosting in Netherlands vs. Panama? - GoFuckYourself.com

romeoboi · 06-10-2005, 07:04 PM

In order to comply with 2257 and not get out of the business completely, ive been thinking about hosting offshore.

While there is Canada, ive also been looking at The Netherlands and Panama as they seem to be major traffic hubs of their respective continents. Besides pricing, im wondering about a few things:

firstly, I dont know how data is transferred internationally so I'm wondering if there is an advantage to Panama as data could be transferred to surfers in North America over land versus overseas (however its done) from a server in the Netherlands.

Also, if anyone has any experience or can reccomend a host post it here

im curious to see what people think in hosting in Netherlands Vs. Panama

zagi · 06-10-2005, 07:35 PM

I am obviously biased towards Netherlands because our new data center is located there so I will present my view on why Netherlands based hosting is better.

1: Netherlands is a stable country that is part of the European Union, so government stability and general stability is much greater than Panama

2: Netherlands is located at the heart of Europe allowing quick access to all European countries and roughly 80ms delay to New York, Cali -> New York is also 80ms delay, so its not far at all

3: All major data exchange is now done via fiber optic cables, there is no difference whether they run over land or water, the speed is constant 186,000miles/sec, so its only distance that is a factor not the medium over which it runs

4: Netherlands has a much stronger and more established Internet presence, AMS-IX ( Amsterdam Internet Exchange ) is now the largest single point of Internet bandwidth approaching 70Gigabits/sec!!!
http://www.ams-ix.net/technical/stats/

For these reasons Reality Check Network choose Amsterdam with 10Gigabit connectivity to AMS-IX as its second data center location.

Contact me for pricing - ICQ: 4930562

Juicy D. Links · 06-10-2005, 07:38 PM

Nicaragua is the best

HunkyLuke · 06-22-2005, 12:58 AM

The Netherlands is a more stable country and has had a hosting infrastructure in place for quite some time. Unfortunately Panama does not have hosting facilities that have been online for a long time.

cheers,
Luke

azguy · 06-27-2005, 12:50 AM

Netherlands, if you must choose from these two, but there are better places, depending on what you need exactly. My sig explains it.

pr0 · 06-27-2005, 12:54 AM

The united states pretty much owns panama, after the whole drug business/banking collapsed, our boys got put in place to run it.

Webby · 06-27-2005, 01:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Juicy D. Links

Nicaragua is the best

Hola Juicy!:-) I know cabling is good there... Are there any hosts of substance??

azguy · 06-27-2005, 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Webby

Hola Juicy!:-) I know cabling is good there... Are there any hosts of substance??

http://www.ibw.com.ni/

Email them, they do dedicated hosting and colocation

Also http://www.bookandhost.com/domains/c...domains/ni.asp

Webby · 06-27-2005, 01:31 AM

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Originally Posted by romeoboi

im curious to see what people think in hosting in Netherlands Vs. Panama

Both Netherlands and Panama are good. Also.. London (Docklands) has some decent hosting/cable (tho Netherlands cable passes thru this anyway).

Panama is well-placed for hosting - the Maya link goes right thru it in all directions. The Maya link goes both eastbound and westbound also north (US and Canada) and there is a link to the Caribbean basin. Panama also a large "silicon park" with a number of hosts and high-tech corps.

But personally.. I would not trust any one location/country :-) Get servers and spread em all over! :-)

Webby · 06-27-2005, 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by azguy

http://www.ibw.com.ni/

Email them, they do dedicated hosting and colocation

Also http://www.bookandhost.com/domains/c...domains/ni.asp

Thanks azguy!

Not sure yet.. but may end up in Nicoland next week!! Will check out hosting as well!

reynold · 06-27-2005, 02:45 AM

Quite clever idea there man..

Joesho · 06-27-2005, 11:44 AM

I am a Principle in www.siliconcanal.com and we will take good care of you from Panama.
We already host several big programs, another top resource board , and countless numbers of smaller guys as well. Just let us know what you need, and if you want references I can get those for you as well. ( I wont post the companies we have servers for here though )

Icq is 174842541

BlueWire · 06-27-2005, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Joesho

I am a Principle in www.siliconcanal.com and we will take good care of you from Panama.
We already host several big programs, another top resource board , and countless numbers of smaller guys as well. Just let us know what you need, and if you want references I can get those for you as well. ( I wont post the companies we have servers for here though )

Icq is 174842541

These guys have been pretty good and reliable in my experience

BRISK · 06-27-2005, 11:46 AM

I would choose Netherlands over Panama

06-10-2005, 07:04 PM	#1
romeoboi Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 343	Hosting in Netherlands vs. Panama? In order to comply with 2257 and not get out of the business completely, ive been thinking about hosting offshore. While there is Canada, ive also been looking at The Netherlands and Panama as they seem to be major traffic hubs of their respective continents. Besides pricing, im wondering about a few things: firstly, I dont know how data is transferred internationally so I'm wondering if there is an advantage to Panama as data could be transferred to surfers in North America over land versus overseas (however its done) from a server in the Netherlands. Also, if anyone has any experience or can reccomend a host post it here im curious to see what people think in hosting in Netherlands Vs. Panama __________________ Cash in on Exclusive ZERO TOLERANCE DVD Downloads!

06-10-2005, 07:35 PM	#2
zagi Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 1,238	I am obviously biased towards Netherlands because our new data center is located there so I will present my view on why Netherlands based hosting is better. 1: Netherlands is a stable country that is part of the European Union, so government stability and general stability is much greater than Panama 2: Netherlands is located at the heart of Europe allowing quick access to all European countries and roughly 80ms delay to New York, Cali -> New York is also 80ms delay, so its not far at all 3: All major data exchange is now done via fiber optic cables, there is no difference whether they run over land or water, the speed is constant 186,000miles/sec, so its only distance that is a factor not the medium over which it runs 4: Netherlands has a much stronger and more established Internet presence, AMS-IX ( Amsterdam Internet Exchange ) is now the largest single point of Internet bandwidth approaching 70Gigabits/sec!!! http://www.ams-ix.net/technical/stats/ For these reasons Reality Check Network choose Amsterdam with 10Gigabit connectivity to AMS-IX as its second data center location. Contact me for pricing - ICQ: 4930562 __________________ Managed US/NL Hosting [ [Reality Check Network ] Dell XEON Servers + 1/2/3 TB Packages ICQ: 4-930-562

06-27-2005, 12:54 AM	#6
pr0 rockin tha trailerpark Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Location: ~Coastal~ Posts: 23,088	The united states pretty much owns panama, after the whole drug business/banking collapsed, our boys got put in place to run it. __________________ __________ Loadedca$h - get sum! - Revengebucks - mmm rebills! - webair (gotz sErVrz)

06-27-2005, 11:44 AM	#12
Joesho want to get in shape Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: on the lake Posts: 12,329	I am a Principle in www.siliconcanal.com and we will take good care of you from Panama. We already host several big programs, another top resource board , and countless numbers of smaller guys as well. Just let us know what you need, and if you want references I can get those for you as well. ( I wont post the companies we have servers for here though ) Icq is 174842541 __________________ Got any domains to sell? I proudly host all my stuff at www.rackco.com

06-27-2005, 11:46 AM	#14
BRISK Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 12,240	I would choose Netherlands over Panama __________________ I post on GFY so that when people ask me what I do, I can tell them that I work with the mentally retarded.

06-10-2005, 07:38 PM	#3
Juicy D. Links So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: N.Y. -Long Island -- Posts: 122,992	Nicaragua is the best

06-22-2005, 12:58 AM	#4
HunkyLuke Virgin by request ;) Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 1,924	The Netherlands is a more stable country and has had a hosting infrastructure in place for quite some time. Unfortunately Panama does not have hosting facilities that have been online for a long time. cheers, Luke

06-27-2005, 12:50 AM	#5
azguy Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Scottsdale, AZ Posts: 5,167	Netherlands, if you must choose from these two, but there are better places, depending on what you need exactly. My sig explains it.

06-27-2005, 02:45 AM	#11
reynold Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Global Traveler Posts: 51,271	Quite clever idea there man..