2257 Violation: What are the consequences? - GoFuckYourself.com

NinjaSteve · 06-10-2005, 06:51 AM

I was reading the legal information but I don't see what the consequences are for violating the law. Does anybody know where it can be found? Do they make you cease operations, or do they fine you, or is there possible jail time? I'm looking for the factual linformation, not assumptions.

Jakke PNG · 06-10-2005, 06:53 AM

Go directly to jail; do not pass Go; do not collect $200

TheSaint · 06-10-2005, 07:04 AM

5 years prision first offense, 10 years second offence.

propromotions · 06-10-2005, 07:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSaint

5 years prision first offense, 10 years second offence.

That punishment is longer than most people get for selling crack to kids or a hit and run.

Pathetic.

mardigras · 06-10-2005, 07:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by propromotions

That punishment is longer than most people get for selling crack to kids or a hit and run.

Pathetic.

Tits are worse than crack. Where have you been?

DutchTeenCash · 06-10-2005, 07:11 AM

its better to be safe

propromotions · 06-10-2005, 07:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mardigras

Tits are worse than crack. Where have you been?

Was that suppost to be funny?

In all seriousness, I love America but there are some things that are totally fucked up.

NinjaSteve · 06-10-2005, 07:15 AM

Wizzo just showed me this...

"18 U.S.C. 2257(b). Violations of these record-keeping requirements are criminal offenses punishable by imprisonment for not more than five years for a first offense and not more than ten years for subsequent offenses."

kenny · 06-10-2005, 07:20 AM

18 U.S.C. 2257(b). Violations of these record-keeping requirements are criminal offenses punishable by a fine of no more then $50.00 for a first offense and not more than $250.00 for subsequent offenses.

tradermcduck · 06-10-2005, 07:22 AM

Guantanamo

NinjaSteve · 06-10-2005, 07:28 AM

I see only jail time, no monetary fine information.

I'm reading:
"18 U.S.C. 2257(b). Violations of these
record-keeping requirements are
criminal offenses punishable by
imprisonment for not more than five
years for a first offense and not more
than ten years for subsequent offenses."

From this PDF
http://freespeechcoalition.com/pdf/70FR29607%202%20.pdf

FilthyRob · 06-10-2005, 07:28 AM

Up to 10 years in federal prison from what I read

Holly · 06-10-2005, 07:32 AM

You will go blind.

Or win a trip to Hawaii.

NinjaSteve · 06-10-2005, 07:33 AM

When writing up a 2257 page for your site, now you must include yourself as a Custodian of Records? Should you be including yourself + the primary owner of the images, or just yourself now?

Jakke PNG · 06-10-2005, 07:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Holly

You will go blind.

Or win a trip to Hawaii.

Or both.

Matt_WildCash · 06-10-2005, 07:38 AM

5-10 years of anal rape from your favorite black friend/cellmate who has Aids.

Yep thats a fair punishment for improper record keeping.

Amazing what they can do when its all about "Protecting the kids".

MandyBlake · 06-10-2005, 08:15 AM

isn't there also a fine that could be enforced?

NinjaSteve · 06-10-2005, 08:23 AM

I didn't see any mention of a fine when I read the law. Only the jail time.

taibo · 06-10-2005, 08:30 AM

sig spot secured

tungsten · 06-10-2005, 08:33 AM

jailtime

digi · 06-10-2005, 08:36 AM

jailtime for not keeping records? why anyone wants to live in america is beyong me.

tony286 · 06-10-2005, 08:37 AM

I really dont think anyone will go to jail for a bookkeeping error if all your models are over legal age. Its a waste of time to take people to court for bookkeeping errors with that being said. You should still try to be as complaint as possible. Also if they do show up be nice and respectful that goes futher than you think .

JD · 06-10-2005, 08:37 AM

I love america!!!!!!!!!! </sarcasm>

DamageX · 06-10-2005, 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TeenGodFather

Go directly to jail; do not pass Go; do not collect $200

Yep, you'll be farting instead of shitting.

directfiesta · 06-10-2005, 08:44 AM

The difference is also " what is the real purpose of the law " ...

Maybe, along the way, they will say:

" Well, we tought they had MCP ( massive child porn) and tough we had not yet found it, it must be somewhere. But, don't forget, we got rid of a porn regime that was very very bad. We got rid of the badmans. Would you have prefered if we would have left them flourish, threaten or social value, supply that porn to ennemies ... Now, the world is much safer, and your kids can walk to the ice cream truck" ....

MyNameIsEmily · 06-23-2005, 10:05 AM

10 years

Matt 26z · 06-23-2005, 10:09 AM

It's 5 years maximum, and you have to be the worse of the worse to get a maximum. We're talking actual CP producer types here. That's my feeling anyway.

2257-Ben · 06-23-2005, 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mardigras

Tits are worse than crack. Where have you been?

That depends upon whether the 'crack' belongs to your friendly neighborhood plumber...

2257-Ben · 06-23-2005, 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony404

I really dont think anyone will go to jail for a bookkeeping error if all your models are over legal age. Its a waste of time to take people to court for bookkeeping errors with that being said. You should still try to be as complaint as possible. Also if they do show up be nice and respectful that goes futher than you think .

Tell that to Enron, Tyco and MCI

Mr. Pat · 06-23-2005, 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenny

18 U.S.C. 2257(b). Violations of these record-keeping requirements are criminal offenses punishable by a fine of no more then $50.00 for a first offense and not more than $250.00 for subsequent offenses.

most webmasters could afford that

tranza · 06-23-2005, 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Holly

You will go blind.

Or win a trip to Hawaii.

Lol.......

06-10-2005, 06:51 AM	#1
NinjaSteve Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 11,089	2257 Violation: What are the consequences? I was reading the legal information but I don't see what the consequences are for violating the law. Does anybody know where it can be found? Do they make you cease operations, or do they fine you, or is there possible jail time? I'm looking for the factual linformation, not assumptions. __________________ ...

06-10-2005, 06:53 AM	#2
Jakke PNG ex-TeenGodFather Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Suomi Finland Perkele Posts: 20,306	Go directly to jail; do not pass Go; do not collect $200 __________________ ..and I'm off.

06-10-2005, 07:04 AM	#3
TheSaint Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Everywhere at once Posts: 991	5 years prision first offense, 10 years second offence. __________________ I have no signature

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06-10-2005, 07:15 AM	#8
NinjaSteve Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 11,089	Wizzo just showed me this... "18 U.S.C. 2257(b). Violations of these record-keeping requirements are criminal offenses punishable by imprisonment for not more than five years for a first offense and not more than ten years for subsequent offenses." __________________ ...

06-10-2005, 07:20 AM	#9
kenny Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 7,245	18 U.S.C. 2257(b). Violations of these record-keeping requirements are criminal offenses punishable by a fine of no more then $50.00 for a first offense and not more than $250.00 for subsequent offenses. __________________ 7

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06-10-2005, 07:28 AM	#11
NinjaSteve Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 11,089	I see only jail time, no monetary fine information. I'm reading: "18 U.S.C. 2257(b). Violations of these record-keeping requirements are criminal offenses punishable by imprisonment for not more than five years for a first offense and not more than ten years for subsequent offenses." From this PDF http://freespeechcoalition.com/pdf/70FR29607%202%20.pdf __________________ ...

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Holly Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Jesusland Posts: 10,017	You will go blind. Or win a trip to Hawaii. __________________ War National Damn Champions Eagle

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NinjaSteve Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 11,089	When writing up a 2257 page for your site, now you must include yourself as a Custodian of Records? Should you be including yourself + the primary owner of the images, or just yourself now? __________________ ...

06-10-2005, 07:38 AM	#16
Matt_WildCash Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,699	5-10 years of anal rape from your favorite black friend/cellmate who has Aids. Yep thats a fair punishment for improper record keeping. Amazing what they can do when its all about "Protecting the kids".

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NinjaSteve Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 11,089	I didn't see any mention of a fine when I read the law. Only the jail time. __________________ ...

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digi Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: ON, Canada Posts: 1,314	jailtime for not keeping records? why anyone wants to live in america is beyong me. __________________

06-10-2005, 08:37 AM	#22
tony286 lurker Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: atlanta Posts: 57,021	I really dont think anyone will go to jail for a bookkeeping error if all your models are over legal age. Its a waste of time to take people to court for bookkeeping errors with that being said. You should still try to be as complaint as possible. Also if they do show up be nice and respectful that goes futher than you think .

06-10-2005, 08:37 AM	#23
JD Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 22,651	I love america!!!!!!!!!! </sarcasm>

06-10-2005, 08:44 AM	#25
directfiesta Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Montreal, Quebec Posts: 29,754	The difference is also " what is the real purpose of the law " ... Maybe, along the way, they will say: " Well, we tought they had MCP ( massive child porn) and tough we had not yet found it, it must be somewhere. But, don't forget, we got rid of a porn regime that was very very bad. We got rid of the badmans. Would you have prefered if we would have left them flourish, threaten or social value, supply that porn to ennemies ... Now, the world is much safer, and your kids can walk to the ice cream truck" .... __________________ I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT ! But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

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06-23-2005, 10:09 AM	#27
Matt 26z So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: ¤ª"˜¨๑۩۞۩๑¨˜"ª¤ Posts: 18,481	It's 5 years maximum, and you have to be the worse of the worse to get a maximum. We're talking actual CP producer types here. That's my feeling anyway.