Project Revenue's new policy regarding free content and 2257 - Page 2 - GoFuckYourself.com

Snake Doctor · 06-07-2005, 09:55 PM

Woj where are you?

Snake Doctor · 06-07-2005, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by jact

My goodness, quite the pervert you are! Tsk tsk!

enter » · 06-07-2005, 10:02 PM

yoooo Lenny. Are you getting my icq's?
I've got your stuff for you.

NTSS · 06-07-2005, 10:05 PM

Good decision imho

Tempest · 06-07-2005, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Lenny2

We all have to do what's best for our business in both the short and long term.

Very true.. seriously though man.. You should provide the docs to WMs that you can "trust"... The only argument against providing them is due to potential "surfers"/"stalkers" signing up and getting the docs... And for those of us that have been in the business for a number of years, it's just silly not to provide them to us. You're in the business to make money. So maximizing your advertising/promotions is in your best interest.

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Originally Posted by Lenny2

As for the free hosted galleries becoming saturated, there's no limit to the amount of galleries we can build.

Yes you can. But most sponsors create crap galleries. I haven't looked at yours so can't say, but I prefer galleries designed for the lowest common denominator so I can squeeze every sale out... I despise those that slap them together without much thought to thumbnail cropping and that design for only the broadband customers.

kernelpanic · 06-07-2005, 10:07 PM

nice move

FUCKuPAYme · 06-07-2005, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Lenny2

Well that's a little too far out there.....but think about it......it's simply not fair to give preferential treatment to an affiliate based on their geographic location.

your doing the right thing

if the euro webmasters have problems with it fuck them. do the right thing so its fair to all.

Snake Doctor · 06-08-2005, 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Tempest

Very true.. seriously though man.. You should provide the docs to WMs that you can "trust"... The only argument against providing them is due to potential "surfers"/"stalkers" signing up and getting the docs... And for those of us that have been in the business for a number of years, it's just silly not to provide them to us. You're in the business to make money. So maximizing your advertising/promotions is in your best interest.

There are alot of different ways to look at this.
What I stated earlier is our current policy. Like all policies they are subject to change.
Once there is some solid case law surrounding this issue we'll revisit our policies. Right now there is very little case law so on most of these issues all you can get from your attorney is an educated guess.
What is clear about this law is what is sexually explicit and what isn't sexually explicit. So the decision we made was based on the clearest points of the law and corresponding regulations.

Does that make sense?

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Originally Posted by Tempest

Yes you can. But most sponsors create crap galleries. I haven't looked at yours so can't say, but I prefer galleries designed for the lowest common denominator so I can squeeze every sale out... I despise those that slap them together without much thought to thumbnail cropping and that design for only the broadband customers.

http://www.projectrevenue.com/promo/...ies/index.html

Look at those and tell me if you don't think they're among the best hosted galleries in the biz. (humble aren't I? LOL)
We've made our living the last few years doing nothing but buying listings on TGP's.....converting TGP gallery traffic is our forte.

Also, if you can do volume we have no problem creating custom hosted galls for you, with your recip or whatever else you want on them.

baddog · 06-08-2005, 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Lenny2

Well a plain text reading of the law will give you the same conclusion that we came to.

(1) the term "actual sexually explicit conduct" means actual but not simulated conduct as defined in subparagraphs (A) through (D) of paragraph (2) of section 2256 of this title;

Now we'll look at paragraph 2 of section 2256

(2) ?sexually explicit conduct? means actual or simulated?
(A) sexual intercourse, including genital-genital, oral-genital, anal-genital, or oral-anal, whether between persons of the same or opposite sex;
(B) bestiality;
(C) masturbation;
(D) sadistic or masochistic abuse; or
(E) lascivious exhibition of the genitals or pubic area of any person;

Notice that (E) lascivious exhibition of the genitals or pubic area of any person; is excluded from the term actually sexually explicit conduct in section 2257.
2257 specifically states that only (A) through (D) are used to determine what sexually explicit conduct is.
Whether they omitted (E) on accident or on purpose, it doesn't matter, they excluded (E)lasivious exhibition of the genitals or pubic area.....therefore those depictions are not subject to 2257 record keeping requirements.

I can draw it out on a flow chart or something if you like

Wow, I have read this thing probably 10 times, and did not notice that they excluded E

Snake Doctor · 06-08-2005, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog

Wow, I have read this thing probably 10 times, and did not notice that they excluded E

I didn't catch it at first either, after someone else told me about it I got on the phone with my attorney right away and he verified that (E) was excluded.

BiggleJones · 06-10-2005, 04:08 PM

I dont know if this has been answered before, but does anyone know what licking/sucking titties falls under? No genitals, no sex. Is this considered explicit?

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