*Verifying* IDs? - GoFuckYourself.com

dcortez · 06-07-2005, 12:39 PM

Under impending 2257, doesn't the 'Custodian' need to *verify* every ID they have records for?

Does this not include BOTH primary and secondary producer custodians?

If this is the case, then getting copies of model IDs from content providers will NOT satisfy the requirments of 2257 compliance.

And if it's not the case, the what's to prevent bogus ID's from being sent to secondary producers?

1) Which is it (all custodians need to personally inspect and verify the IDs or just the primary producer custodians)?

2) What's the point of secondary producers having 'IDs' if they are only copies and not validated?

-Dino

Jakke PNG · 06-07-2005, 12:43 PM

I sale cheap photochops.

MandyBlake · 06-07-2005, 01:05 PM

they want the primary producer to "validate" it. look at it and see if they see anything that would make it bogus.

dcortez · 06-07-2005, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by MandyBlake

they want the primary producer to "validate" it. look at it and see if they see anything that would make it bogus.

So in the 'chain of evidence', we're still relying on the primary producer for documentation verification and statement of authenticity.

From a practical standpoint, having 'copies of something' warranted to be 'real IDs' by primary producers on hand at the office of secondary producers really is not more valid (to the secondary producer/or law enforcement) than just having a statement/promise from the primary producer (traditional 'Custodian of Records') that the content was all produced with adults only as has been the case up to now.

What's the 'reasoning' again on having 'copies' of (maybe) valid IDs in the offices of secondary producers?

-Dino

DWB · 06-07-2005, 01:25 PM

I hope my secondary producers (and the inspectors) can read Thai, Spanish, Portuguese, Khmer, Lao, Mandarin and Japanese as well as understand the Buddhist calendar.

flirty · 06-07-2005, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy

I hope my secondary producers (and the inspectors) can read Thai, Spanish, Portuguese, Khmer, Lao, Mandarin and Japanese as well as understand the Buddhist calendar.

your sig is way too funny

FilthyRob · 06-07-2005, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy

I hope my secondary producers (and the inspectors) can read Thai, Spanish, Portuguese, Khmer, Lao, Mandarin and Japanese as well as understand the Buddhist calendar.

That's funny but a valid point. A lot of content isn't produced here anyway

dcortez · 06-07-2005, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy

I hope my secondary producers (and the inspectors) can read Thai, Spanish, Portuguese, Khmer, Lao, Mandarin and Japanese as well as understand the Buddhist calendar.

or Canadian, eh!

-Dino

MandyBlake · 06-07-2005, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by dcortez

So in the 'chain of evidence', we're still relying on the primary producer for documentation verification and statement of authenticity.

From a practical standpoint, having 'copies of something' warranted to be 'real IDs' by primary producers on hand at the office of secondary producers really is not more valid (to the secondary producer/or law enforcement) than just having a statement/promise from the primary producer (traditional 'Custodian of Records') that the content was all produced with adults only as has been the case up to now.

What's the 'reasoning' again on having 'copies' of (maybe) valid IDs in the offices of secondary producers?

-Dino

OH you want reasoning??? sorry can't help you there! lol

dcortez · 06-07-2005, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by MandyBlake

OH you want reasoning??? sorry can't help you there! lol

I appreciate that

Surely, there must have been some 'official reasoning/story' for what good secondary producers having (unverified by them) copies of IDs.

I doubt this gets any secondary producer off the hook if the primary producer's ID claims are false (either through bad IDs or false warranties).

-Dino

Sarah_Jayne · 06-07-2005, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy

I hope my secondary producers (and the inspectors) can read Thai, Spanish, Portuguese, Khmer, Lao, Mandarin and Japanese as well as understand the Buddhist calendar.

Heck...*I* need to be able to read Russian just to know what actual month some of the model in my content was born.

06-07-2005, 12:39 PM	#1
dcortez DINO CORTEZ™ Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Vancouver Island Posts: 2,145	Verifying IDs? Under impending 2257, doesn't the 'Custodian' need to verify every ID they have records for? Does this not include BOTH primary and secondary producer custodians? If this is the case, then getting copies of model IDs from content providers will NOT satisfy the requirments of 2257 compliance. And if it's not the case, the what's to prevent bogus ID's from being sent to secondary producers? 1) Which is it (all custodians need to personally inspect and verify the IDs or just the primary producer custodians)? 2) What's the point of secondary producers having 'IDs' if they are only copies and not validated? -Dino

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