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TheWylders · 06-06-2005, 04:24 PM

I'm not telling you how to run your business, we've all been given tough decisions to make and as a business owner you've got to make them. I've heard a few say when our models signed our release's they knew we could give out their ID's to secondary producers, but I'm not sure this is what they expected. Giving out ID's is a dangerous thing, but so is being in the adult industry period. I would hope that no affiliate would give out this information just upon request though. If you're going to give out ID's, atleast respect the girls privacy enough to only give out ID's to secondary producers that are making money for you. Switch your programs to only give softcore content that doesn't need 2257 info to new webmasters or people just signing up to the program. Offer an incentive for webmasters who make 5 or more sales the option to get the hardcore content that requires a copy of the ID.
This will give people who want to remain softcore an option to get softcore content, and an option for people who want to take on the responsibility of being a secondary producer an option to do that. This will keep our models a little safer in my opinion. Just my

mrthumbs · 06-06-2005, 04:25 PM

TheWylders · 06-06-2005, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by mrthumbs

at least I used periods!

FilthyRob · 06-06-2005, 04:27 PM

That's a good idea really.

Lensman · 06-06-2005, 04:30 PM

Great idea.

andrej_NDC · 06-06-2005, 04:41 PM

I like it.

Stacey_JoinRightNow · 06-06-2005, 05:00 PM

nice point dude

TheWylders · 06-06-2005, 06:22 PM

Sorry, but I'm gonna bump my own thread here because I think it's an important issue and this option needs to be considered.
Just a warning...I'll bump it in the morning too if this thread gets lost

MuleScrote · 06-06-2005, 08:34 PM

bump...I like the idea

FunForOne · 06-06-2005, 08:52 PM

I anticipated that sponsors will have to be more selective in recruiting affiliates, but this should have been done for a while.

how many affilates out there are just surfers with passwords to content?

I applaud you for looking for solutions instead of beating another henny penny.

I'm glad to see that lensman thinks its a good idea, but now a little worried at what he might think is a cut off point!

bump for your idea

basschick · 06-06-2005, 09:09 PM

so you're not actually addressing affiliates, but rather affiliate PROGRAMS.

newbreed · 06-06-2005, 09:12 PM

Hey I replied to your e-mail the other day, did you get it?

And this is an axcellent idea to weed people out of the program who may be a higher risk than others (as an affiliate I mean).

Jace · 06-06-2005, 09:51 PM

Hey Luc, good to see you here...get alexandra back on here, i promise I won't give her shit anymore

great post too though....i can't wait for the first lawsuit aimed at the DOJ and a production company at the same time for some poor porn girl getting stalked and raped...just cause some idiot affiliate program gave their affiliates all the id's for that girl

Jace · 06-06-2005, 09:53 PM

and for those that have no idea who started this thread, you need to get into the porn scene more...luc is one of the better and larger porn producers in porn vallery, he has been doing this since most of you were pooping your pants

tradermcduck · 06-06-2005, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Lensman

Great idea.

It is, though non U.S. webcmasters won't request IDs ...

NaughtyRob · 06-06-2005, 10:58 PM

I like it dude.

BigK · 06-06-2005, 11:01 PM

Isnt there a way around every affiliate having to have the id's? my interpretation was that as a secondary producer its ok for the primary producer to hold the id's but the secondary producer had to know where the id's were kept.

i know everyone interprets this damn law differently. but my interpretation is as long as the primary producer has the required info, and the secondary knows where the info is. its ok.

I like others got an attorney looking it over, but still waiting to see what the hell i gotta do as a secondary.

TheWylders · 06-07-2005, 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by JaceXXX

and for those that have no idea who started this thread, you need to get into the porn scene more...luc is one of the better and larger porn producers in porn vallery, he has been doing this since most of you were pooping your pants

Sorry, wrong Wylders! We're Al and Liv Wylder, no relation to Luc Wylder.

TheWylders · 06-07-2005, 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by newbreed

Hey I replied to your e-mail the other day, did you get it?

And this is an axcellent idea to weed people out of the program who may be a higher risk than others (as an affiliate I mean).

Got your email Bill, will hit you up on ICQ later today

TheWylders · 06-07-2005, 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by basschick

so you're not actually addressing affiliates, but rather affiliate PROGRAMS.

Yes, you are correct. My fault

TheWylders · 06-07-2005, 07:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigK

Isnt there a way around every affiliate having to have the id's? my interpretation was that as a secondary producer its ok for the primary producer to hold the id's but the secondary producer had to know where the id's were kept.

i know everyone interprets this damn law differently. but my interpretation is as long as the primary producer has the required info, and the secondary knows where the info is. its ok.

I like others got an attorney looking it over, but still waiting to see what the hell i gotta do as a secondary.

Based on the new regs, the secondary producer also has to have a copy of the ID's. Best thing to do, is exactly what you're doing. Leave it up to an attorney to figure it all out.

Jace · 06-07-2005, 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by TheWylders

Sorry, wrong Wylders! We're Al and Liv Wylder, no relation to Luc Wylder.

oh, my bad

i think i have talked to Liv as well though

TheWylders · 06-07-2005, 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by JaceXXX

oh, my bad

i think i have talked to Liv as well though

Yep, you sent her a few glass toys

As a matter of fact I've still got EcstasyGlass painted on the wall in my garage!

Jace · 06-07-2005, 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by TheWylders

Yep, you sent her a few glass toys

As a matter of fact I've still got EcstasyGlass painted on the wall in my garage!

oh, haha, hell yeah....that is right

how is she liking them?

TheWylders · 06-07-2005, 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by JaceXXX

oh, haha, hell yeah....that is right

how is she liking them?

Dude, she loves them! As a matter of fact she had one of them up her ass night before last. Sorry, no pics...this time it was just for fun

Jace · 06-07-2005, 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by TheWylders

Dude, she loves them! As a matter of fact she had one of them up her ass night before last. Sorry, no pics...this time it was just for fun

wow, wierd...i had one up my ass the night before last

06-06-2005, 04:24 PM	#1
TheWylders Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Memphis, TN Posts: 623	Affiliates Giving Out ID's Please Read I'm not telling you how to run your business, we've all been given tough decisions to make and as a business owner you've got to make them. I've heard a few say when our models signed our release's they knew we could give out their ID's to secondary producers, but I'm not sure this is what they expected. Giving out ID's is a dangerous thing, but so is being in the adult industry period. I would hope that no affiliate would give out this information just upon request though. If you're going to give out ID's, atleast respect the girls privacy enough to only give out ID's to secondary producers that are making money for you. Switch your programs to only give softcore content that doesn't need 2257 info to new webmasters or people just signing up to the program. Offer an incentive for webmasters who make 5 or more sales the option to get the hardcore content that requires a copy of the ID. This will give people who want to remain softcore an option to get softcore content, and an option for people who want to take on the responsibility of being a secondary producer an option to do that. This will keep our models a little safer in my opinion. Just my Last edited by TheWylders; 06-06-2005 at 04:25 PM..

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06-06-2005, 09:12 PM	#12
newbreed Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: ThatOneProgram.com Posts: 9,898	Hey I replied to your e-mail the other day, did you get it? And this is an axcellent idea to weed people out of the program who may be a higher risk than others (as an affiliate I mean). __________________ Want to promote SUCCUBUS? Click HERE!!!! \| Want to buy SUCCUBUS? Click HERE!!!! Yeah, yeah, you know, That One Program! \| Want to trade links with StompBunny.com? Loryn ‎(3:16 PM): I love it, just as long as we keep the bedroom door closed from all ears then we can have throw down hard core sex that makes us money haha fuck it we can have sex on money never did that before Last edited by newbreed; 06-06-2005 at 09:14 PM..

06-06-2005, 04:25 PM	#2
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06-06-2005, 04:30 PM	#5
Lensman GFY Chaperone Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Adult.com Posts: 9,846	Great idea.

06-06-2005, 04:41 PM	#6
andrej_NDC Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 7,760	I like it.

06-06-2005, 06:22 PM	#8
TheWylders Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Memphis, TN Posts: 623	Sorry, but I'm gonna bump my own thread here because I think it's an important issue and this option needs to be considered. Just a warning...I'll bump it in the morning too if this thread gets lost

06-06-2005, 08:34 PM	#9
MuleScrote Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 4,601	bump...I like the idea

06-06-2005, 08:52 PM	#10
FunForOne Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: USA Posts: 8,704	I anticipated that sponsors will have to be more selective in recruiting affiliates, but this should have been done for a while. how many affilates out there are just surfers with passwords to content? I applaud you for looking for solutions instead of beating another henny penny. I'm glad to see that lensman thinks its a good idea, but now a little worried at what he might think is a cut off point! bump for your idea

06-06-2005, 09:51 PM	#13
Jace FBOP Class Of 2013 Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: bumfuck, ky Posts: 35,562	Hey Luc, good to see you here...get alexandra back on here, i promise I won't give her shit anymore great post too though....i can't wait for the first lawsuit aimed at the DOJ and a production company at the same time for some poor porn girl getting stalked and raped...just cause some idiot affiliate program gave their affiliates all the id's for that girl

06-06-2005, 09:53 PM	#14
Jace FBOP Class Of 2013 Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: bumfuck, ky Posts: 35,562	and for those that have no idea who started this thread, you need to get into the porn scene more...luc is one of the better and larger porn producers in porn vallery, he has been doing this since most of you were pooping your pants

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06-06-2005, 11:01 PM	#17
BigK Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 38	Isnt there a way around every affiliate having to have the id's? my interpretation was that as a secondary producer its ok for the primary producer to hold the id's but the secondary producer had to know where the id's were kept. i know everyone interprets this damn law differently. but my interpretation is as long as the primary producer has the required info, and the secondary knows where the info is. its ok. I like others got an attorney looking it over, but still waiting to see what the hell i gotta do as a secondary.