Fuckin' A, Jay. Ya NAILED it! (LAJ tells it like it is on .XXX issue)

[Donny]

From this article posted earlier by LAJ comes this:

Monday, June 06th 2005 02:49:29 PM
Sick of the adult industry? Love censorship? Then support .XXX today!
And don't bother telling us it's "to protect the children." We all know it won't.

In the spirit of problem solving by putting a bandage over a gaping wound (which the right wing fundamentalists have made so popular) .XXX will as an end result (if it becomes mandatory) have a much more negative effect than a positive one, not just for our industry but for free speech in general. If you believe that .XXX is a great way to protect children then you are either so caught up in your own bullshit, are ambivalent toward free speech (and the industry for that matter), or have made a deal with the devil and stand to profit off of everyone in the name of censorship and the false guise of "protecting children."

Or perhaps you fit into all 3 categories.

The very concept of hiding behind the concept of "protecting children" if part of your plan is really about profiting off the .XXX domain sales, then that is the worst kind of child exploitation of all and beyond despicable. You should be run out of this industry.

Is there such a thing as committing adult Internet treason?

As far as I'm concerned, protecting children is all about taking responsibility for your own actions. You want to protect children? You become a better parent.

And you give children their own domain. There's a "G" rating for movies and it has worked for decades. Now is the time to apply that to the Internet.

The last time I checked, the Internet was LOADED with all kinds of inappropriate material that kids can easily view and not JUST porn. Just today linked to Yahoo.com are photos of drug use and violence. All only one click away from the home page of the heaviest trafficked website in the world. Is violence and drug use kid friendly?

Perhaps .KILL or .DRUG could be added to the list of new domains needed to further censor the Internet?

What about sites that preach hate or lifestyle choices or religions that you disagree with or find "offensive"? You see where I am going with this? Support .XXX and other forms of "protecting children" aren't far behind.

Can you see what is happening here? Watching all of this unfold is like watching a car wreck happen right before your very eyes and doing nothing about it. In fact this harkens back to the "re-election" of that guy in the white house whose name I won't even bother mentioning. Seeing this whole .XXX scheme play out gives me the same sick feeling I had in November 2000 and then again in November 2004.

I look at it this way. If you TRULY have the interests of protecting children (as well as free speech) and not your own selfish and misguided interests and "moral" judgments, then you'll support a .KID TLD and push for it to go through. And push hard. Think about it. Any site that is deemed kid friendly will jump on board with a .KID domain, especially if it's totally voluntary. Why wouldn't they? It would be easier for kids to find "safe" sites, drive up all kinds of opportunities for Internet revenue, and having that extension would carry extra prestige, especially if requirements are strict.

Not to mention it would turn the tables and shut up the other "side." Because you are either for us or against us. The flawed logic behind a mandatory .XXX will do nothing but put money in a few people's pockets and pacify the right wing whackos... as well as those looking to exploit the industry for their own personal gain.

Imagine your kid coming home from school, jumping on the Internet and ONLY being able to surf sites deemed kid friendly? No porn, no violence, no drug use, no adult situations or text of any kind. If there is truly to be any kind of censorship on the Internet doesn't it make sense for it to be this way and this way only if you TRULY have the protection of children in mind??

I'll say it again... if you support .XXX, then you clearly don't support free speech, the interests and future of the adult Internet as a whole AND the protection of children. .XXX will be a reality, but it's up to all of us to fight it from becoming mandatory.

[NTSS]

If .xxx becomes mandatory. I see literally hundreds of thousands (well..10's) of lawsuits being filed. Does the guy who owns tits.com automatically get tits.xxx?

[Rick Latona]

I disagree with Jay. .kid is censorship as well. A .kid extension continues ICANN down the path of segregating content which is exactly what we don't want. I had a long conversation about it with him and don't have the energy left to type it all out now.

[TheGoldenChild]

great article
The only thing I would say about .kids
is that when I was 13-18 I was a precocious
kid and wanted to be considerd an adult

At what point do kids realize they are no longer kids?
16? 17?

It is a good idea in theory however

[Donny]

I like it because he tells people like the ASACP to go fuck themselves for committing treason against the adult industry.

"Adult Sites" becomes "Association of Sites"

Now this.

Fuck them.

[Myst]

.xxx is bullshit
but you people must realize that the laws of the US are not the laws of the internet

[nofx]

great read

i think its just a bunch of bullshit

[Digipimp]

i guess .xxx sucks for all of you that specialize in giving free porn away and i guess it was a bad thing when they started prosecuting people for misleading domain names that direct you to porn, that probably cost you money too and you think it's censorship. as said above the internet is a worldwide community not a US community, .xxx is the next logical step but late. that's why it seems to be a bad thing because it's late, it should have been done way back as well as the other tld's but they weren't and as a result nearly everything was .com

do you want to fight for your right to throw up your free hardcore porn on a .org or .edu as well?

of course it all starts with personal and parental responsibilty, do you get a prize for stating the obvious? do you see that everything in the US is going in the opposite way of personal responsibilty? you've probably fallen into that trap yourself and don't see it.

[Mack]

Originally Posted by Rick Latona

I disagree with Jay. .kid is censorship as well. A .kid extension continues ICANN down the path of segregating content which is exactly what we don't want. I had a long conversation about it with him and don't have the energy left to type it all out now.

Said the domain buyers domain buyer.

.xxx is a dangerous road to take. Banks , Processors, and other industry's that are vital to the good health of online adult will not attach the same stigma to .kids that they will .xxx . It is simple it is fact.

If new extentions are needed or wanted, they should not be of a variety that will segregate content.

here's a thought........
Most prudent webmasters have a warning page on their site. I am sure if push came to shove anyone entering an adult website that doesn't have a previous cookie from that website could be greeted with a warning page. An adult clicks yes a minor goes to Rick.

There are far better ways to go about this.

[MikeXAMO]

I'm 100% with Jay on this issue. Why are politicians so uptight about nudity/pornography and so careless when it comes to much more offending content? Is it because pornography is more prevalent or because it's harder to discuss their sexuality with their own kids than it is with drug abuse and murder? There's alot of content I'd like to ban off the net too, but segregating content isn't the solution, nor is it anywhere near foolproof. You can't censor the world or expect everyone to follow this expectation just because the U.S. says so!

It would also have serious business implications too. Imagine the ability for Microsoft to hide .xxx domains by default as 'Content Protection' for its customers? Or to block spam with .xxx domains in it? And how does this protect children for parents who don't know how to use the computer in the first place? Isn't this the reason that Content Protection (like RSAC rating protection in most web browsers) software isn't effective?

Politicians love this because they can say 'they voted against porn' and 'I helped stop child porn' (because we all know ALL porn is child porn right?). Yes, .XXX is a bunch of bullshit.

[tony286]

Good write Jay

[Zoe_Zoebaboe]

Yeah, that was a real good read. You have a lot of real great key points.

[mikeyddddd]

Everything said makes too much sense for it to be accepted and implemented.

[wallst]

thats a way of putting things LAJ - nice write up dude

[Major (Tom)]

Originally Posted by Rick Latona

I disagree with Jay. .kid is censorship as well. A .kid extension continues ICANN down the path of segregating content which is exactly what we don't want. I had a long conversation about it with him and don't have the energy left to type it all out now.

Nice to see you are against this rick. we need peopel like you standing up.

thanks man.

duke

[V_RocKs]

IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT TLD YOU USE!

When a kid gets on a computer that is always on and the parents left the kid monitoring software turned off... what is the use?

And what if the family computer doesn't use kid monitoring software in the first place? Which most don't!

[Nightwind]

Oh no a boobie, it's gonna kill us and corrupt our children! Fucking right wing nutjobs and their bs. The fuss about the janet jackson incident and the new paris hilton commercial is just so ridiculous the whole world is laughing at them.